Autopsy 2025 Round 19 Tight game but Blues wanted it Moir

[kreuze_missile]

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Wtf is that?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Wtf is that?

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[Shambolic]

10/10 for the thread title - outstanding

 

[Yoda_]

From all Essendon supporters

thank you

 

[Just Kreuzing]

The vibe was different from the get go.
We ran a bit harder and players are taking good contested marks.

keep this up!

Charlie kicking early goals and getting the crowd involved really sparks the entire team belief & energy.

It has been quite noticeable how deflating early regulation misses really impacts the team & Charlie himself.

Our best football over the past couple of seasons included Charlie being box office electric at times whilst his goal conversion was at a decent level, the team effort & crowd enthusiasm in that period was fever pitch.

 

[Blueing]

Waking up after a win, the day already feels so much better......Dammmm I didnt know how much I missed this feeling!!!!

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Drives me mad when we just don’t bother to do this - always trying to take possession whatever the situation

Collingwood are brilliant at it

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Something flicked a switch in him last night.

His post game interview showed he’s clearly been feeling the pressure.

Waking up after a win, the day already feels so much better......Dammmm I didnt know how much I missed this feeling!!!!

Charlie really is the definition of a confidence player. When he is up and going, he is nigh on unstoppable. When he is lacking

in confidence, he is shizen.

Wins a win, good for them and those who were willing to make the effort to go along. But, has been the season from hell,

no denying that. Anyway, things are never as bad, or good as they seem.

 

[kreuze_missile]

White = possible finish positions
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Maybe I am dumb but does that mean we now in 'mathematically impossible' territory?

 

[lily of laguna]

We kicked straight. It’s the most underrated stat in the business. When we won loads of games from 2023 to 2024 we kicked more goals than pints points in almost all of those wins. I the games we didn’t we either lost or laboured to a difficult win. For all the shit the talking heads drivel on about to steal a living out of the game it’s really pretty simple. Take your opportunities. Execute your skills. I’ve often said there is very little difference in how all the teams play in terms of game style. The teams that win more often than they don’t tend to execute best.

I beg to differ with regard to game style.
Kicking straight does make a massive difference but our structure forward of the ball is miles away from the good teams.
Our ball movement has moments of run and carry highlighted by Whites push off the mark and run forward but we very rarely move that way.

We do try and play on and with speed but it often becomes just a blast kick forward, little overlap run and when we play “tempo” footy it becomes a long kick to our forward line.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Maybe I am dumb but does that mean we now in 'mathematically impossible' territory?

Nevermind. We made it easy on my ladder predictor.

 

[Moon]

What a difference a Win makes ... Warms the cockles of my heart.

Happy for the lads ........ and us .... of course.


ps. It is strange seeing the Bulldogs miss out on the 8. They seem better than that

 

[Chookaradley]

Nice to win
Definitely had the rub of green

 

[ESKIE]

A win for the supporters and the young guys, always good to beat Melbourne, Moir, Carroll, Young and Cowan..

 

[lily of laguna]

Worst game I have been to all season. Both sides were shocking. It wasn’t even VFL level standard

To watch live last night how they played as opposed to Lions & Pies of last two weeks was stark. Completely different level

I said in preview we should win because we match up well and the trends for both are poor. I got heavily criticised for these comments

After game if felt like a morgue. No thrill at all in crowd about win

Nice to see kids play some good footy (we have some real exciting talent to work with) but doing it under little pressure doesn’t excite me. They were given so much space they weren’t last few weeks. We always look okay under no pressure

It’s when pressure comes (start of third qtr) is when we really struggle

Take the win but reality of last few weeks can’t be forgotten. Hawks, Freo, Suns now will tell us real picture

We still need massive change to be a serious side

Re Demons, Goodwin needs to go. He has a flag but players are cooked and need refresh. They are in a worse spot than us IMO

Agree Soap.

We are miles off it.

Dees are a shadow of themselves and still kept up with us, Picket arsed a few which helped them stay in touch.

I was super pleased that the win was off the back of some solid footy by some youngsters rather than the experienced few doing all the heavy lifting although I thought Weiters had a great game too.

The point is we are not anywhere near the calibre of the top end of the ladder. It’s a game style, structure thing and if we make inroads with that we will improve, need some fresh eyes and change of approach.

 

[bringdoullback]

Charlie has been building for the last few weeks. Fittest i have seen him all year and he looked to have enjoyed himself.

 

[Soapy V]

Charlie really is the definition of a confidence player. When he is up and going, he is nigh on unstoppable. When he is lacking

in confidence, he is shizen.

TBF I have watched Charlie closely last few weeks and he has been working hard. Can’t question effort

But as a former player said to us last night he needs to step up in big games and against better opposition. In his career so far he hasn’t done it

 

[bringdoullback]

I mentioned it in the game day thread, but for Carroll to have that sort of game coming off of his error ridden game last week speaks volumes about this kid.

He is special.

The kids has courage. Even when he had all those turn overs, he keeps getting to good places and wanting the ball. Love his mental toughness.

 

[btdg]

Wow. Great win - genuinely surprised me. I think if you went back to 6pm and said Kosi Pickett was going to have 19 kicks and 5 goals I would have assumed a big loss but we rallied multiple times and came through.

Also just so nice to see young guys making progress (Carroll, Cowan, O'Farrell, Lord) but also having a breakout game (Moir).

There was definitely more intent than a week ago - tackling, pressure, and ball movement all pretty good. Maybe just a bit of needed rest for some of the team with the extra couple of days. Might be Cripps' first Brownlow votes for the year. Curnow kicked his first goal in a month and then his first after quarter time since mid May. IT helps when your stars actually show up (injury aside).

Still some downsides to consider:

- we played 7 small forwards (Young, White, Durdin, Motlop, Fogarty, Williams, Evans) and they combined for two goals in a win.

- Saad makes our backline look a whole lot more stable, even alongside a very inexperienced crew, but is absolutely no longer the guy to cover Pickett and other midfielders who push forward. He played a very good game outside of the 3-4 occasions where he just got torched for a goal.

- The crowd and atmosphere was again very ordinary. I just don't know what supporters want. Are people actually happier being miserable? If it isn't clear to everyone, we're not a very good squad/list this year. We rallied and won a big game, and yet it was lukewarm at best. May knocked a bloke into next week, and the boos for him were half-hearted. Charlie kicked a match-winning goal from 55 and there was a smattering of applause... I don't know how the club fixes this, maybe we have to look at setting up a soccer-style 'Active Support' group or something, because the atmosphere compared to any other MCG tenant right now (Essendon included) is putrid, and it HAS to be something that both current and prospective players see...

 

[JJBagger]

Still disappointed in the season. Still reckon Vossy has run his course, and he will be gone at years end. But I will still be celebrating this win as much as anyone. Winning any footy match is hard. Great to see our kids look fantastic, and the leaders stood up when needed. Great Saturday night

 

[Bluesince62]

Would’ve been the worst game of the season if not for the Tigers v Bombers. Great to see the next generation, but nothing has changed. How many marks did Melbourne take from our hurried kicks out of the D50. The contrast with Brisbane’s transition from defence is stark.

The Dees are stuck in the same time warp as us and are garbage.

Goodwin could be gone tomorrow and the Dees getting first dibs in the coaching market.

Hopefully GW has someone already signed up and ready to go.

 

[JJBagger]

- we played 7 small forwards (Young, White, Durdin, Motlop, Fogarty, Williams, Evans) and they combined for two goals in a win.

Young, Williams and Evans weren’t played as small forwards, and Durdin was sub

 

[Soapy V]

The kids has courage. Even when he had all those turn overs, he keeps getting to good places and wanting the ball. Love his mental toughness.

People writing kids off after one game really p1sses me off.

They will have good and bad games. Especially when they aren’t in a good side

I found some of the comments about Carroll last week very ordinary. Kid can play. Just needs time and experience

 

[Soapy V]

Still disappointed in the season. Still reckon Vossy has run his course, and he will be gone at years end. But I will still be celebrating this win as much as anyone. Winning any footy match is hard. Great to see our kids look fantastic, and the leaders stood up when needed. Great Saturday night

Interesting isn’t it. Everyone see it differently. I get no excitement out of last night. It was a shocking game we barely won.

I am all about success and Flags. That’s it for me. Last night showed me again how far we are aware from it. So many sitting with us (all Carlton members, former players etc) feel the same. Yeh we won, but to many of us that have grown up in an era of success it means little

Last night was just a nothing result for me

 

[kreuze_missile]

Moir, Carroll, Young and Cowan..

Young's best game for the club so far - yet he finished with just 8 disposals, 4 clangers, and a disposal efficiency of only 25%.

His goal from 50 metres after an uncontested mark was a highlight, but outside of that, I thought his performance was very poor.

He continues to appear slow, both in movement and decision-making, and his ball use remains a real concern. I’d love to be proven wrong, but at this stage, it just looks like AFL level might be a bit beyond him.