List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

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Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[HBFlanker]

You aren't?!

What the hell is he going to achieve?

15th? in 2026
14th in 2027?

Then the downward spiral?

Oh but they get to sell you on the "it's to improve to keep LDU" absolute horseshit.

What next, we have to improve to keep McKercher?

Not like they didn't end up having to pay LDU $1.5m a season for the privilege anyway to have him stroll around every other week when he feels up to it.



Wilkie would be as braindead ****ing stupid as Caleb Daniel, even if Wilkie is an infinitely better footballer.

Do we actually want to compete for a flag in this competition this milenium??


Then build around Sheezel, McKercher, Wardlaw etc. Not a 30 year old that will be washed up and gone in 2-3 seasons, with a 15 year top 5 pick running around for St Kilda (while they are pissing themselves laughing....)


Or haven't we already learnt this the hard way enough with Daniel, Polec, Logue etc?

The only players coming here in the bottom 3 are mercenaries that know they are done elsewhere and want a pay day.

Im sure Wilkie would love a 5-6 year deal at 30 on $900k a season, I've no doubt Clarko would be desperate and stupid enough to do it to. Pity he will never be here to suffer the consequences of it, like the fans are..


St Kilda shipping Wilkie off, is exactly what we should be doing with Larkey, Simpkin or Zurhaar if someone is stupid enough to do it.

I'm convinced you don't watch football games, but just look at numbers on a screen.

Enjoy the off season.

 

[pupstar]

Dylan Jack Buckley? My bad

Would be a very good trade but what would you give up for him Anyway him and his girlfriend are very happy up there so no hope that we or anyone else would be a chance regardless of our offer i would think.

 

[DuckYeah]

You have evidence of where we'll finish next year? Colour me intrigued!

Yeh. Bottom 4. Based on the evidence of the last 6 years. The evidence available from 2025 of being obliterated by undermanned sides Collingwood, Dogs, Good Friday Carlton, Sydney the first time. There is no reason to believe we will climb out of the bottom 4. Only the blindly optimistic can.

2025 - 6 wins + healthy % (7 wins)
2024 - 11 wins
2023 - 10 wins
2022 - 8 wins

We would need around 9 wins next season as an average to get out of the bottom 4. We are not winning 9 games.

 

[DuckYeah]

Would be a very good trade but what would you give up for him Anyway him and his girlfriend are very happy up there so no hope that we or anyone else would be a chance regardless of our offer i would think.

Free agent (next season)

 

[Sphynx]

I'm convinced you don't watch football games, but just look at numbers on a screen.

Enjoy the off season.

I watch more football and have played more football than just about anyone on this board.


You didn't answer the question.


What is Wilkie going to achieve? He's an improvement, a massive improvement on what we have;

Everyone seems to think that is simply enough.


It isn't.

Getting slightly better for a season or two isn't enough. We need to compete to justify the absolute carnage we have been through.

If we have gone through this to crawl our way into the 15-16th, ****ing great.... Awesome job everyone.

We already started taking shortcuts last offseason - and look at the result.


Wilkie will not contribute a single thing to the future prospects of success at the NMFC, that is the only question that needs to be asked in our position.

You are clearly of the opinion we are finals bound by 2027.... I would love that round of your crack pipe....

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

We don’t necessarily need better players (they’d sure as shit be nice).

They need to be utilised more effectively with a set up and positioning that doesn’t render them useless on transition and unable to cover any of the ****ing opposition players.

 

[HBFlanker]

I watch more football and have played more football than just anyone on this board.


You didn't answer the question.


What is Wilkie going to achieve? He's an improvement, a massive improvement on what we have.

Everyone seems to think that is simply enough.


It isn't.

Getting better isn't enough. We need to compete to justify the absolute carnage we have been through.

If we have gone through this to crawl our way into the 15-16th, ****ing great.... Awesome job everyone.

We already started taking shortcuts last offseason and look at the result.

Acquiring Wilkie would achieve the following:

1. Would become our best defender by the length of the Flemington straight immediately upon signing
2. Would provide enormous leadership and mentorship to Whitlock and Dawson (Our long term Full back)
3. Would go straight into the overall leadership group. A lot of people on here bitch and moan about Simpkins leadership but don't throw up any solutions, so here is one.
4. He turns 30 next year, so has at a minimum 4 years of top level footy in his. Ages 30,31,32,33 so would lead our backline into finals those last two seasons.
5. Provides a level of structure we havent had since Tarrant departed. Have a look at what Howe does for Collingwood, and Wilkie is a better player than Howe.
6. Allows Dawson to play on developing forwards while he develops himself
7. Lifts standards Monday to Friday of the entire defensive unit, something that Logue hasn't been able to do.

Probably a lot more as well, but i guess you probably want to keep drafting outside cats like Duursma and Ford.

 

[DuckYeah]

I’d love Wilkie but not for a future first round pick. I think a 3rd rounder would be sufficient.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Acquiring Wilkie would achieve the following:

1. Would become our best defender by the length of the Flemington straight immediately upon signing
2. Would provide enormous leadership and mentorship to Whitlock and Dawson (Our long term Full back)
3. Would go straight into the overall leadership group. A lot of people on here bitch and moan about Simpkins leadership but don't throw up any solutions, so here is one.
4. He turns 30 next year, so has at a minimum 4 years of top level footy in his. Ages 30,31,32,33 so would lead our backline into finals those last two seasons.
5. Provides a level of structure we havent had since Tarrant departed. Have a look at what Howe does for Collingwood, and Wilkie is a better player than Howe.
6. Allows Dawson to play on developing forwards while he develops himself
7. Lifts standards Monday to Friday of the entire defensive unit, something that Logue hasn't been able to do.

Probably a lot more as well, but i guess you probably want to keep drafting outside cats like Duursma and Ford.

You could have David Dench, Bruce Doull, Andrew McLeod, Glenn Archer, John Rantall and Steven Silvagni back there all in their prime and we’d still bleed scores because the set up is diabolically shit.

Wilkie doesn’t change that.

 

[HBFlanker]

You could have David Dench, Bruce Doull, Andrew McLeod, Glenn Archer, John Rantall and Steven Silvagni back there all in their prime and we’d still bleed scores because the set up is diabolically shit.

Wilkie doesn’t change that.

Why doesnt he change the set-up??

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

I’d love Wilkie but not for a future first round pick. I think a 3rd rounder would be sufficient.

Oooooooooooo........Is Wilkie contracted? (Its probably been mentioned but i cant be bothered traipsing through all of the personal arguments)

If he is, we have to pony up big time. Future first at a minimum. And take his salary. Uncontracted, our current pick 21 and some garnish.

 

[BlueanWhiteKanga]

Does Duursma actually want out though?

 

[joegreen]

People said the same shit last year.

It's nothing but blind optimism and hope.

We haven't proved that in any way.

Statistically we are still absolute dogshit.

We can't move the ball, we can't defend.

Yes we can win clearance and score from it, but it's because we've got the most clearance dominant, behemoth ruckman in the game.


Nothing can be gleaned from this season other than we are still a horrendous football side, that has no business even looking at our F1 unless it had a top 3 pick coming the other way.

And they are about to change the ruck rules to stop ruckman like Xerri being so dominant. Will be interesting how it plays out next year. Curious how the rule change will be worded.

We may not be as good a clearance side at CBAs if they can't cross the line - forcing them to jump at the ball. Around the ground the ball will be instantly thrown up, you'll have to be an endurance freak to get there again and again. You may not need to nominate either.

The game could look quite different next year, and we need to know the rule changes now as that will (should) influence the type of player we go after - trade or draft.

 

[Sphynx]

Acquiring Wilkie would achieve the following:

1. Would become our best defender by the length of the Flemington straight immediately upon signing
2. Would provide enormous leadership and mentorship to Whitlock and Dawson (Our long term Full back)
3. Would go straight into the overall leadership group. A lot of people on here bitch and moan about Simpkins leadership but don't throw up any solutions, so here is one.
4. He turns 30 next year, so has at a minimum 4 years of top level footy in his. Ages 30,31,32,33 so would lead our backline into finals those last two seasons.
5. Provides a level of structure we havent had since Tarrant departed. Have a look at what Howe does for Collingwood, and Wilkie is a better player than Howe.
6. Allows Dawson to play on developing forwards while he develops himself
7. Lifts standards Monday to Friday of the entire defensive unit, something that Logue hasn't been able to do.

Probably a lot more as well, but i guess you probably want to keep drafting outside cats like Duursma and Ford.

Ahh, I see it's groundhog day and we are having the exact same conversations as last year, with the exact same posters, when some of us were saying how stupid the Parker, Daniel and Darling pursuits were.

Yet plenty were making out like we were signing these players in their prime.


In hindsight, Darling was OK, but he was also virtually free, so there's no cost of failure.

Did Luke Parker drag us up the ladder? Is Luke Parker going to contribute in any way to the future success of the football club? And Im not talking about something a development coach couldn't contribute...

There's 39 players in the entire AFL at 33+ years of age,

There's 2 rated in the top 100 players in the league from that group (Gawn and Libba).


Unbelievable odds of success we are playing with there, to justify 20% of his playing time at this club, for a likely top 5 pick and $4-5m salary....

1/3 of those 33+ year olds sat out over half this season.

You know what, go all in... lets go get Nat Fyfe, Jeremy McGovern and Callan Ward....

 

[Tiberius]

Does Duursma actually want out though?

There's no evidence, but only a blind optimist would think that he doesn't...

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Why doesnt he change the set-up??

Because he’d play 30m off opponents under instruction.

 

[Event Horizon]

I watch more football and have played more football than just about anyone on this board.


You didn't answer the question.


What is Wilkie going to achieve? He's an improvement, a massive improvement on what we have;

Everyone seems to think that is simply enough.


It isn't.

Getting slightly better for a season or two isn't enough. We need to compete to justify the absolute carnage we have been through.

If we have gone through this to crawl our way into the 15-16th, ****ing great.... Awesome job everyone.

We already started taking shortcuts last offseason - and look at the result.


Wilkie will not contribute a single thing to the future prospects of success at the NMFC, that is the only question that needs to be asked in our position.

You are clearly of the opinion we are finals bound by 2027.... I would love that round of your crack pipe....

I think you are seriously underselling the importance of winning more games to the mindset of players and supporters. We've been in such a deep hole for so long, that even winning 2-3 more games (which would make it 8) is a serious stepping stone. I don't think we can ever do a Brisbane and go from 5 wins to top 4. We need to get to the 8-10 wins to be able to build from there. And if any player could help us to go from 5.5 to 8 wins I would say yes to that without a doubt. (draft capital notwithstanding)

 

[HugeJohnson1]

What would we have to give up to net Wilkie and Lever..?

 

[Chip Scab1]

We won't be bottom 4 next year. You speak on here like your opinion is the only one that matters. We fly past Essendon, Melbourne and Port at a minimum.

No, I'm not Brady. Hate the prick with a passion. Has played the leading role in landing us where we were throughout the first 6 years of this decade. He needed to depart 3 years ago.

I'd do a first rounder for either Wilkie or Payne. Thats my view. Stop sooking when people have views that don't align with yours.

I'm done with picking up entitled kids who winge and carry on (Duursma, JHF). I'd rather get known quantities who can impact our results from round 1 next year. Thats what we need to focus on now.

We might not be, but won't... yeah dunno. Shouldn't be, I'll go with that.

What would we have to give up to net Wilkie and Lever..?

I'd be uncontactable for a period of time if that were to occur. Why? how can you look at the future Roos we're building (slowly) and come up with a decent smallish tall defender and a coward and think we should pay overs for 1.25 relatively old shizen trucks?

If you're successful, it will be like 4 Huge Johnson's up your ass with no KY.

Seriously. A bigger own goal than "Claiming 8".

 

[pupstar]

Free agent (next season)

And very happy up there playing with GWS.

Ahh, I see it's groundhog day and we are having the exact same conversations as last year, with the exact same posters, when some of us were saying how stupid the Parker, Daniel and Darling pursuits were.

Yet plenty were making out like we were signing these players in their prime.


In hindsight, Darling was OK, but he was also virtually free, so there's no cost of failure.

Did Luke Parker drag us up the ladder? Is Luke Parker going to contribute in any way to the future success of the football club? And Im not talking about something a development coach couldn't contribute...

There's 39 players in the entire AFL at 33+ years of age,

There's 2 rated in the top 100 players in the league from that group (Gawn and Libba).


Unbelievable odds of success we are playing with there, to justify 20% of his playing time at this club, for a likely top 5 pick and $4-5m salary....

1/3 of those 33+ year olds sat out over half this season.

You know what, go all in... lets go get Nat Fyfe, Jeremy McGovern and Callan Ward....

Well the last three are just silly. So who do we trade in that is a realistic chance of coming to us this year that will improve us,

 

[DuckYeah]

Oooooooooooo........Is Wilkie contracted? (Its probably been mentioned but i cant be bothered traipsing through all of the personal arguments)

If he is, we have to pony up big time. Future first at a minimum. And take his salary. Uncontracted, our current pick 21 and some garnish.

Ohhh so its only North that have to pay up big time, huh? Gotcha

 

[DuckYeah]

And they are about to change the ruck rules to stop ruckman like Xerri being so dominant. Will be interesting how it plays out next year. Curious how the rule change will be worded.

We may not be as good a clearance side at CBAs if they can't cross the line - forcing them to jump at the ball. Around the ground the ball will be instantly thrown up, you'll have to be an endurance freak to get there again and again. You may not need to nominate either.

The game could look quite different next year, and we need to know the rule changes now as that will (should) influence the type of player we go after - trade or draft.

I wouldn’t want Xerri… Coached by Monk jumping into me…

 

[DuckYeah]

You could have David Dench, Bruce Doull, Andrew McLeod, Glenn Archer, John Rantall and Steven Silvagni back there all in their prime and we’d still bleed scores because the set up is diabolically shit.

Wilkie doesn’t change that.

People round here been blaming the defence all year. Its majority System however, having Wilkie would be handy IF they work out how to defend their turnover OR magically gain significant touch over the off season and refuse to turn the ball over as much.

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

I’m not a ‘burn the membership’ type, but f**k me, Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

?

Nope. Can’t have it. Would actually be a pointless move. We don’t need a 3rd defender/intercept player. Chom ain’t a key defenders a*ehole, but he could be a bloody good 3rd tall. Why the f** would you bring in Lever to play that role instead.

 

[Ashley B]

Pretty sure Lever is on the way to us . Purchased a crossword scratchie ticket today , it’s a sign lol