Essentially the old split round to give the players one week off mid year. Works well enough
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Torn between 3rd SA and 3rd WA team
Both states could accomodate it easily
Both states could accomodate it easily
They really couldn’t Port was struggling financially only a few years ago
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Joondalup is like 20-30kms from Perth CBD. It's a part of the Perth metro area which has like 2 million people. I'd think it's gonna do alright. Big challenge is pulling away some fans from West Coast and Fremantle.
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Unfortunately, there does not seem any real push from government or any other key stakeholders in the community. It seems the media are talking up a third Perth team, but this will not grow the game. Canberra would probably need to build a new stadium? I don’t think there is the political will for such a project.
I would love to see Canberra, but I can’t see it happening. Stick with 19 teams.
Unfortunately, there does not seem any real push from government or any other key stakeholders in the community. It seems the media are talking up a third Perth team, but this will not grow the game. Canberra would probably need to build a new stadium? I don’t think there is the political will for such a project.
I would love to see Canberra, but I can’t see it happening. Stick with 19 teams.
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Will never happen. Why would a Melbourne based club voluntarily merge with the Gold Coast?
You might as well encourage a relocation to Tasmania by a Melbourne-based club
A 20th AFL licence is far more likely.
There might be regional Victorian teams in the future. Might. The Albury region would draw upon ~400k as a base as it's not unrealistic for people in that region to travel 90 mins or more regularly. So it's small bit not complete fantasy. Would Take a generation for allegiances to shift obviously.
But if there is, the will be a relocation. There will never be an 11th Victorian club FFS.
But if there is, the will be a relocation. There will never be an 11th Victorian club FFS.
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Said it before but should be Canberra as team 20.
Then maybe in a few decades NT and NQ if the 20 clubs are financially self sustainable.
22 teams, top 8, everyone plays once + rivalry and gather round.
Full national representation.
Can’t see it happening as the AFL love their double up blockbusters too much.
Then maybe in a few decades NT and NQ if the 20 clubs are financially self sustainable.
22 teams, top 8, everyone plays once + rivalry and gather round.
Full national representation.
Can’t see it happening as the AFL love their double up blockbusters too much.
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Compare the population of England (and Wales I guess), France, Italy and Spain to Australia though.
England - 56 mill
France - 67 mill
Italy - 59 mill
Spain - 47 mill
Australia - 26 mill
In terms of something already established - Norwood would be the biggest club outside the AFL.
If they could make The Parade comfortable for 15k, they'd sell that out for every home game. It is Adelaide's version of North Sydney Oval.
Their rivalry with Port on a national stage would create another drawcard fixture. Norwood would get 40k plus at Adelaide Oval for the games against Crows and Port and 20k-30k against the big drawing interstate clubs from the get go.
The Crows might take a bit of a hit initially but Adelaide is big enough and footy mad enough to ensure the Crows remain a big club. I'm not sure who Paul Kelly would support. He's already done all the dumb things so I suspect he'd stick with the Crows in the AFL.
Port has become established since the move to Adelaide Oval and going back to being "one club" and drawing on its tradition. Their home at Alberton in the outer north-west of Adelaide is in the heartland of where most of their support would lie - although like all clubs, they'd have supporters scattered all over.
Norwood would need to do the same from the start re calling upon their tradition. They are based at The Parade in the eastern suburbs. Less than 5km from Adelaide Oval. If you were to hop on an electric scooter you'd pass by Prince Alfred College, St Peters College, Adelaide University and some parklands on the way. The "other end of town" to those from Port Adelaide. Norwood would not expected to be as big as Port or Adelaide, but could become a boutique type club, who could add value by being self sufficient and adding an extra game to the AFL calendar. AFLW games are already played there.
I'm not sure what footy is like in the WAFL, but in Adelaide it was always Port vs Norwood and then the rest. Three teams in SA could work. There is a natural rivalry already established and deep roots laid of the three clubs.
The Adelaide Crows soon to be new base at Thebarton Oval, West Torrens old home ground, is in the inner west of Adelaide on South Road. About the same distance west of Adelaide Oval as The Parade is east. This section of South Road is the last to be redeveloped (called the North-South Motorway), which connects the far south of Adelaide from Old Noarlunga, which is the gateway to the Fleurieu/McLaren Vale etc. to the north of Adelaide and onto the northern expressway out to Gawler/Barossa and beyond with no traffic lights. The Crows remain centrally based, if not the Team for all South Australians, then at least the team for the rest of them. And the rest of them have a strong dislike for Port and Norwood.
There are already 110 South Australians on AFL lists. With some concessions, similar to Tasmania, they could establish a squad with a healthy amount of strong local talent. Plus, the SA Premier and current AFL CEO are already best friends. Pump some of the Gather Round profits into The Parade, get some of the benefactors of Norwood Footy Club involved and you could pretty quickly establish a team to enter with Tasmania if the bye was considered less than ideal and the extra game brought in more TV $$.
As much as I dislike Norwood, they are a club that deserves to be on the national footy stage.
If they could make The Parade comfortable for 15k, they'd sell that out for every home game. It is Adelaide's version of North Sydney Oval.
Their rivalry with Port on a national stage would create another drawcard fixture. Norwood would get 40k plus at Adelaide Oval for the games against Crows and Port and 20k-30k against the big drawing interstate clubs from the get go.
The Crows might take a bit of a hit initially but Adelaide is big enough and footy mad enough to ensure the Crows remain a big club. I'm not sure who Paul Kelly would support. He's already done all the dumb things so I suspect he'd stick with the Crows in the AFL.
Port has become established since the move to Adelaide Oval and going back to being "one club" and drawing on its tradition. Their home at Alberton in the outer north-west of Adelaide is in the heartland of where most of their support would lie - although like all clubs, they'd have supporters scattered all over.
Norwood would need to do the same from the start re calling upon their tradition. They are based at The Parade in the eastern suburbs. Less than 5km from Adelaide Oval. If you were to hop on an electric scooter you'd pass by Prince Alfred College, St Peters College, Adelaide University and some parklands on the way. The "other end of town" to those from Port Adelaide. Norwood would not expected to be as big as Port or Adelaide, but could become a boutique type club, who could add value by being self sufficient and adding an extra game to the AFL calendar. AFLW games are already played there.
I'm not sure what footy is like in the WAFL, but in Adelaide it was always Port vs Norwood and then the rest. Three teams in SA could work. There is a natural rivalry already established and deep roots laid of the three clubs.
The Adelaide Crows soon to be new base at Thebarton Oval, West Torrens old home ground, is in the inner west of Adelaide on South Road. About the same distance west of Adelaide Oval as The Parade is east. This section of South Road is the last to be redeveloped (called the North-South Motorway), which connects the far south of Adelaide from Old Noarlunga, which is the gateway to the Fleurieu/McLaren Vale etc. to the north of Adelaide and onto the northern expressway out to Gawler/Barossa and beyond with no traffic lights. The Crows remain centrally based, if not the Team for all South Australians, then at least the team for the rest of them. And the rest of them have a strong dislike for Port and Norwood.
There are already 110 South Australians on AFL lists. With some concessions, similar to Tasmania, they could establish a squad with a healthy amount of strong local talent. Plus, the SA Premier and current AFL CEO are already best friends. Pump some of the Gather Round profits into The Parade, get some of the benefactors of Norwood Footy Club involved and you could pretty quickly establish a team to enter with Tasmania if the bye was considered less than ideal and the extra game brought in more TV $$.
As much as I dislike Norwood, they are a club that deserves to be on the national footy stage.
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Canberra will get behind their team, they average decent enough crowds for GWS home games.
I get GWS getting a certain amount of funds from playing there. Is it possible for GWS to replace it with a large NSW population? Not sure what's West but I guess they could try the Central Coast?
I get GWS getting a certain amount of funds from playing there. Is it possible for GWS to replace it with a large NSW population? Not sure what's West but I guess they could try the Central Coast?
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NT is my choice with TIO Stadium having a roof
I still think GWS should play more games in Sydney, but if they had to play one or two outside for scheduling/sponsorship reasons, I'd pick Newcastle.
Largest city in the country without a team, and they've just reconfigured their stadium to better suit AFL. Decent amateur league, too.
92 pro soccer clubs in England
58 pro soccer clubs in France
100 pro soccer clubs in Italy
42 pro soccer clubs in Spain
19 pro Aussie rules clubs in Aus
RG16
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With how many A/C units?
If it hypothetically happend, I'd go for a open style stadium with a roof. Sun cover, but still get the outdoor temps, simular to what the King's in the NBA are/were planning.
I moved to the tropics a few years ago and you adjust fine to the temperatures. Team could really use it to their advantage
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They do it for the Easter Show talking over their field don't they? Could surely play a few weeks at the SCG
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If Tasmania were granted entry in the interests of achieving a truly national Australian Football League, then surely the nation's capital should be the next team let in. All six Australian states will have representation in a few years from now and we only have the two territories left without representation. The NT is a bit of a logistical nightmare and really doesn't have the population but Canberra does have a decent population and is fairly interested in our code of football.
Granting Canberra entry makes a lot of sense if you're trying to establish a truly national league. If you just want more money then a 3rd WA team will get the green light.
Granting Canberra entry makes a lot of sense if you're trying to establish a truly national league. If you just want more money then a 3rd WA team will get the green light.
I could definitely see that working. maybe a Norwood/ Sturt JV based at the Parade? Ready-made old school class rivalry with Port, though you’d get a lot of conflicted Adelaide fans.
Canberra’s my preference though..
2/3 games in Canberra are for the Easter Show. One if just to fulfill the rest of the contract.
Wouldn't be that hard to shift games around to get 10 at Giants Stadium.
I personally think the SCG is a terrible idea. It's enemy territory and a bit of an insult to Western Sydney fans.
No 20th team.
Instead get Melbourne teams to play home games against non-Vic teams at the secondary markets that will never get it’s own team.
The QLD and NSW teams get games in other cities in their state for greater exposure.
Melbourne has two NT games both against WA teams as they are the shortest flights for them.
Bulldogs get 2 games in Ballarat against the SA teams since they are somewhat close.
TAS get to have extra games in their stadiums as a good will gesture to fill out the event calendar and as they don’t get to have a derby. Also Hawks and Roos get to keep some attachment to where they are currently playing.
Geelong just keep on playing in Geelong.
And that basically covers everyone off.
The only changes might be for Melbourne to get both NT games, and St Kilda to play a game in Albury against Tasmania.
Instead get Melbourne teams to play home games against non-Vic teams at the secondary markets that will never get it’s own team.
- Collingwood vs Gold Coast in Cairns
- Essendon vs Brisbane in Sunshine Coast
- Carlton vs GWS in Wollongong
- Richmond vs Sydney in Newcastle
- St Kilda vs Tasmania in Albury
- Melbourne vs Freo in Darwin
- Melbourne vs West Coast in Alice Springs
- Bulldogs vs Adelaide in Ballarat
- Bulldogs 2nd vs Port in Ballarat 2nd
- Hawks vs Tasmania in Launceston
- Kangaroos vs Tasmania in Hobart
The QLD and NSW teams get games in other cities in their state for greater exposure.
Melbourne has two NT games both against WA teams as they are the shortest flights for them.
Bulldogs get 2 games in Ballarat against the SA teams since they are somewhat close.
TAS get to have extra games in their stadiums as a good will gesture to fill out the event calendar and as they don’t get to have a derby. Also Hawks and Roos get to keep some attachment to where they are currently playing.
Geelong just keep on playing in Geelong.
And that basically covers everyone off.
The only changes might be for Melbourne to get both NT games, and St Kilda to play a game in Albury against Tasmania.
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Okay then,
the Eredivisie has 18 clubs for a population of around 17 million.
the Premiera Liga has 18 clubs for a population of around 10 million.
the Pro League has 18 clubs for a population of around 12 million.
They are the 6th, 7th and 8th strongest football leagues in Europe (according to EUFA coefficients).
No one. GC to fold, so back to 18
