AFL Player 30: Nate Caddy - Reports of groin tightness, restricted training loads for a few weeks - 20/11

[VelvetSledge]

 

[crackers65]

He is going bto be a star, and the young fella seems quite humble and a nice kid but doesn't seem to get much love from his team mates. A few times I have seen him celebrtate a goal and try to get everyone going and no one gets over to him. A bit strange.

He wouldn’t be a Caddy if he was humble.

 

[windyhill]

Go Nate !

 

[Donflicted]

Nate Caddy nah NATE DADDY

 

[Atavistic]

Missed a good opportunity in the 3rd. Johnson put a beautiful pass out in front of Caddy on the lead and Nate tried to mark it on his chest.

 

[Call Me Cake]

A lot of almosts that should've been but also some good (gut running to spoil at certain moments around the ground, the off the ground kick goal assist). Seemed like that sort of night where many little things didn't go our way. Should learn from it.

 

[ant555]

Will continue to have patchy games like today. His offence never really came off today. I do like the fact he bounces back up and tries to get involved again. Dare I say it but I am not convinced he is suited to being the main man as far as marking target goes. He needs a FF to play along side so he can use his running game and the second and third efforts to put him in play rather than being double teamed in marking contests.

 

[Happyskeret]

I think Son of SOS owned him today. He is not better than Caddy imo but he has become naturally stronger because he has had a few more years in the system. 1st year Caddy would smash 1st year Jack imo. It sort of reminds me of the battles elder SOS had with Lloyd had early days before the Velvet Sledgehammer owned him.

 

[fairbump_playon]

His timing in the air comes and goes

Im hoping that improves as he gets stronger, but some weeks he just doesn’t hold his ground and gets under the ball all night

 

[Pweter]

His timing in the air comes and goes

Im hoping that improves as he gets stronger, but some weeks he just doesn’t hold his ground and gets under the ball all night

Came on to say the same thing about him running under the ball quite often. Due to his reach and strength he could probably get away with it at junior level but it gets found out at AFL level and gives the defender an easy spoil

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

I think Son of SOS owned him today. He is not better than Caddy imo but he has become naturally stronger because he has had a few more years in the system. 1st year Caddy would smash 1st year Jack imo. It sort of reminds me of the battles elder SOS had with Lloyd had early days before the Velvet Sledgehammer owned him.

He's 8 years older. That's quite a few years.

 

[Howard Moon]

He's got that early Joe thing going on, dosent take long to realise if you knock him off his run early it disrupts him enough to ruin his chance at the mark. Who knows , he might not ever become a body guy, will just need to have smarter leading patterns and helpful blocking teammates

 

[ant555]

He's got that early Joe thing going on, dosent take long to realise if you knock him off his run early it disrupts him enough to ruin his chance at the mark. Who knows , he might not ever become a body guy, will just need to have smarter leading patterns and helpful blocking teammates

He is not going to be a big body guy in my view. He will be the mobile forward. Runs hard. Takes some marks in space. Second and third effort. We just need a FF. Maybe May could be that guy as he looks to be more the big body marking type. If we have May at FF and Wright as second ruck / FP Caddy can roam around and use his running ability and at times play like a tall small forward.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Reckon should give him a couple preseasons before we start judging who's got a body or not. That comes in time. Curnow looked nothing like he looks now when he was starting out.

Nate has a natural goal sense and ability to form things out of nowhere. Experience and body is the last piece of the puzzle.

 

[Howard Moon]

Reckon should give him a couple preseasons before we start judging who's got a body or not. That comes in time. Curnow looked nothing like he looks now when he was starting out.

Nate has a natural goal sense and ability to form things out of nowhere. Experience and body is the last piece of the puzzle.

I reckon Curnow looked plenty like he does now, he was always a hulking frame with wide shoulders

 

[Call Me Cake]

I reckon Curnow looked plenty like he does now, he was always a hulking frame with wide shoulders

Nope, was wiry/lanky. If you mean long arms, yes. Caddy has a similar frame and gait which is why he was so likened to him. But we're talking body mass, and that's not the frame, that comes with time. Charlie also wasn't winning many 1v1's early on either, most goals came from leading up or snaps.

 

[carnthedons]

He is not going to be a big body guy in my view. He will be the mobile forward. Runs hard. Takes some marks in space. Second and third effort. We just need a FF. Maybe May could be that guy as he looks to be more the big body marking type. If we have May at FF and Wright as second ruck / FP Caddy can roam around and use his running ability and at times play like a tall small forward.

Yeah don’t disagree here. N Riewoldt/Jezza/Buddy would be the types, oversized HFF who can destroy their opponent with athleticism/repeat running/agility, not a hulking wrestle type.

 

[Howard Moon]

Nope, was wiry/lanky. If you mean long arms, yes. Caddy has a similar frame and gait which is why he was so likened to him. But we're talking body mass, and that's not the frame, that comes with time. Charlie also wasn't winning many 1v1's early on either, most goals came from leading up or snaps.

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I'm happy to still say he's far more developed than caddy



Has that v shape and huge broad shoulders a power athlete has, Also he only played a game or two before glandular and injures ruined season one, came back and pulled down ten marks in one of his first games back, came 4th rising star second year, then the knees started playing up. I'd say he was winning enough one on ones but he didn't play enough in those early years to judge v caddy who's playing every game

 

[Call Me Cake]

I'm happy to still say he's far more developed than caddy

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Has that v shape and huge broad shoulders a power athlete has, Also he only played a game or two before glandular and injures ruined season one, came back and pulled down ten marks in one of his first games back, came 4th rising star second year, then the knees started playing up. I'd say he was winning enough one on ones but he didn't play enough in those early years to judge v caddy who's playing every game

Firstly Curnow's setback in terms of injury was like in his 5th year. Irrelevant.

Secondly he looks nothing in that pic like he looks now. Stark difference. That's already the first thing you were wrong on.

Also, in terms of muscle mass, which is what creates the point of difference in terms of strength/body on body (not frame, any lanklet can have a frame as a base but means nothing in this context) he and Nate started off similar. So no, you were wrong.

If you watch Curnow's early highlights you'll note most of the goals kicked were snaps, on the run, or i50 marks he managed on creating space. The 1v1's didn't come until he managed to put on some mass later in his career. It would've been too soon to call for Charlie early just as it is for Caddy now, who by the way, leads Curnow on goals as per first games played.

 

[Howard Moon]

Firstly Curnow's setback in terms of injury was like in his 5th year. Irrelevant.

Secondly he looks nothing in that pic like he looks now. Stark difference. That's already the first thing you were wrong on.

Also, in terms of muscle mass, which is what creates the point of difference in terms of strength/body on body (not frame, any lanklet can have a frame as a base but means nothing in this context) he and Nate started off similar. So no, you were wrong.

If you watch Curnow's early highlights you'll note most of the goals kicked were snaps, on the run, or i50 marks he managed on creating space. The 1v1's didn't come until he managed to put on some mass later in his career. It would've been too soon to call for Charlie early just as it is for Caddy now, who by the way, leads Curnow on goals as per first games played.

Well, I think you are wrong, so I guess that's where we stay.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Well, I think you are wrong, so I guess that's where we stay.

Curnow in Sep 2017, 27 games in:



Curnow in 2023:



If you can't see a clear difference then I don't know what to tell you mate. Muscle mass makes a huge difference.

 

[Howard Moon]

Curnow in Sep 2017, 27 games in:

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Curnow in 2023:

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If you can't see a clear difference then I don't know what to tell you mate. Muscle mass makes a huge difference.

I don't exactly know how it came to an argument over whether Charlie looks different as a 26 year old with 6 years in the gym than he did as an 18 year old but here we are...

I claimed he was never your toothpick style draftee, he had a rather hulking frame which I maintain the photos show which held him in good stead as a rookie- a shape which caddy dosent have because I think they are , and will become totally different types of players. Caddy dosent look to have the same shoulders and width that builds into a Charlie or Jed Walter type. Hence Nate needing an Archer May to play off

Some guys just stay a different shape, like a Jack Riewoldt, a Jack Gunston ect. So unless you've got a time machine , there's no claiming wrong on an opinion that won't manifest for years.

 

[eth-dog]

I don't exactly know how it came to an argument over whether Charlie looks different as a 26 year old with 6 years in the gym than he did as an 18 year old but here we are...

I claimed he was never your toothpick style draftee, he had a rather hulking frame which I maintain the photos show which held him in good stead as a rookie- a shape which caddy dosent have because I think they are , and will become totally different types of players. Caddy dosent look to have the same shoulders and width that builds into a Charlie or Jed Walter type. Hence Nate needing an Archer May to play off

Some guys just stay a different shape, like a Jack Riewoldt, a Jack Gunston ect. So unless you've got a time machine , there's no claiming wrong on an opinion that won't manifest for years.

In fairness he's an expert, he frequently is wrong.

 

[jmoo wan]

Firstly Curnow's setback in terms of injury was like in his 5th year. Irrelevant.

Secondly he looks nothing in that pic like he looks now. Stark difference. That's already the first thing you were wrong on.

Also, in terms of muscle mass, which is what creates the point of difference in terms of strength/body on body (not frame, any lanklet can have a frame as a base but means nothing in this context) he and Nate started off similar. So no, you were wrong.

If you watch Curnow's early highlights you'll note most of the goals kicked were snaps, on the run, or i50 marks he managed on creating space. The 1v1's didn't come until he managed to put on some mass later in his career. It would've been too soon to call for Charlie early just as it is for Caddy now, who by the way, leads Curnow on goals as per first games played.

Curnow in Sep 2017, 27 games in:

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Curnow in 2023:

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If you can't see a clear difference then I don't know what to tell you mate. Muscle mass makes a huge difference.

christ almighty he has masturbated a lot in six years

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I know Brad doesn’t really operate this way, but I’d love him to bring in May or McMahon and play Caddy on Cameron. Just a pure development game. Even if it’s just for a quarter or two. Learn the patterns.

 

[HumphreyBBear]

I know Brad doesn’t really operate this way, but I’d love him to bring in May or McMahon and play Caddy on Cameron. Just a pure development game. Even if it’s just for a quarter or two. Learn the patterns.

I would love to see that. I don't think Brad would even consider it, though.