Player Watch #30 Tom Brown

[Lacustrus]

Tom Brown must have grown 7 cm since arriving to Richmond
He was listed at 186 cm when he was playing TAC

Now listed as 193cm on the RFC website

Is this actually true, or a mistake?

If true, growth spurt would make sense of inconsistency

 

[beema limapep]

Tom Brown must have grown 7 cm since arriving to Richmond
He was listed at 186 cm when he was playing TAC

Now listed as 193cm on the RFC website

My god he is too.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

My god he is too.

Im not sure if i believe it to be honest

 

[Del65166]

We spend to much on half back flankers which we have way too many of. If thwre was any time to take a risk it was pick 17 (after having 9) to get a kpf rather than a hbf

End of 21 we lost Astbury chol and CJ too. With not much depth at the club. And brought in Tarrant and drafted gibcus who played almost every game in defence.

I think Balta was playing 3rd KPF at that stage. And played okay I thought. But we went back to 2 KPF and ruck rotating through the fwd line when Soldo got fit in 22.

Miller was just breaking into the side too..
JVR may have taken this long to get a game at punt road too.

Gibcus is a possibility as KPF.
I'd give gibcus a trial and if it doesn't work free agency is a safer option compared to the lottery of drafting.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Im not sure if i believe it to be honest

You're right, he looks 2.5m

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Still regardless of size that is a regulation JR8 type mark, impressive!

 

[richoplzbreed]

Nothing against this kid. Injured. Could become anything as a player. Facts are facts HBF's can be created from thin air. Our 2 best HBF's in last 10 years were found in failed forwards who couldn't get a kick in a street fight in Dan Rioli and Houli. KPF's are rare and expensive. Van Rooyen was there to be taken. Him and Gibcus could've sorted half the spine out for the next 12 years!!!! Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Thing is KPF's take time to develop so how goods Van Rooyen gonna be at peak? Not factoring in his injuries what has Brown shown thus far in the lower grade? Maybe in our top 10 players once or twice? Van Rooyen smashed it in Magoo's all last year. I don't wanna see another HBF drafted for 5 years.

 

[ivansarmy]

Nothing against this kid. Injured. Could become anything as a player. Facts are facts HBF's can be created from thin air. Our 2 best HBF's in last 10 years were found in failed forwards who couldn't get a kick in a street fight in Dan Rioli and Houli. KPF's are rare and expensive. Van Rooyen was there to be taken. Him and Gibcus could've sorted half the spine out for the next 12 years!!!! Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Thing is KPF's take time to develop so how goods Van Rooyen gonna be at peak? Not factoring in his injuries what has Brown shown thus far in the lower grade? Maybe in our top 10 players once or twice? Van Rooyen smashed it in Magoo's all last year. I don't wanna see another HBF drafted for 5 years.

Agree 100% with this. Not this kids fault but even if he turns into a solid player we are going to regret not taking Van Rooyan for a long time. Our lack of young key forwards really leaves our list in limbo. Hard to see that being fixed anytime soon as we won’t have the draft currency this year to address it either.

 

[living_in_syd]

Nothing against this kid. Injured. Could become anything as a player. Facts are facts HBF's can be created from thin air. Our 2 best HBF's in last 10 years were found in failed forwards who couldn't get a kick in a street fight in Dan Rioli and Houli. KPF's are rare and expensive. Van Rooyen was there to be taken. Him and Gibcus could've sorted half the spine out for the next 12 years!!!! Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Thing is KPF's take time to develop so how goods Van Rooyen gonna be at peak? Not factoring in his injuries what has Brown shown thus far in the lower grade? Maybe in our top 10 players once or twice? Van Rooyen smashed it in Magoo's all last year. I don't wanna see another HBF drafted for 5 years.

Yeh it was one of those picks i recall in the draft thread we all collectively said ‘wtf’ cos we desperately needed a kpf and not another hbf. Very strange considering our needs, even if brown was fit we have so many of his tupe comjng through the rank. Spending pick 17 was very expensive for hbf unless hes some sort of luke hodge prodigy

 

[juss]

Our stubbornness in drafting is really frustrating. Would of been nice to draft a massive need for once, instead of another non-specific flanker type.

Tom has been unlucky with injury, so we need to reserve judgement on him as an individual player, but as a player TYPE, there were far better options for us we should have taken.

 

[richoplzbreed]

Yeh it was one of those picks i recall in the draft thread we all collectively said ‘wtf’ cos we desperately needed a kpf and not another hbf. Very strange considering our needs, even if brown was fit we have so many of his tupe comjng through the rank. Spending pick 17 was very expensive for hbf unless hes some sort of luke hodge prodigy

People forget cos of time and success. Early years Hodge was bloody ordinary as a mid and their supporters were spewing watching Judd dominate. He was plonked HBF to get a kick and flourished. Was meant to be a mid. Then again so was Vlastuin who was labelled a Voss clone and AA centreman/ captain. But because he was behind all our mids never got a real crack to be a mid.

 

[Bird Man]

will be forever compared to Jacob Van Rooeyn

 

[chriso11]

will be forever compared to Jacob Van Rooeyn

Might turn into an absolute dud yet
The comp is littered with forwards who were the next Tony Lockett in their first 5 games

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Our stubbornness in drafting is really frustrating. Would of been nice to draft a massive need for once, instead of another non-specific flanker type.

Tom has been unlucky with injury, so we need to reserve judgement on him as an individual player, but as a player TYPE, there were far better options for us we should have taken.

You mean our adherence to an excellent recruiting and list management regime is really frustrating of course....

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

People complaining about picking Tom Brown have no clue about what type of player he is or level of talent he has
but all i know is he was very highly rated by atleast 3 other clubs all picking in the same range and who knows if we had picked another player it most likely still would not have been JVR because if we rated him a higher talent then we had the chance and so did another 19 picks before he was selected

Sure JVR is looking great and is what we are looking at needing soon but the club has very good scouts in the west that have not let us down with their knowledge and scouting.

Also selecting JVR would almost certainly means we miss Sonsie as all the picks get effected

Lets hope we now have the makings of a top end Defence in 2 years time with
Brown - Gibcus - Rioli
Young - Balta - Smith

 

[richoplzbreed]

People complaining about picking Tom Brown have no clue about what type of player he is or level of talent he has
but all i know is he was very highly rated by atleast 3 other clubs all picking in the same range and who knows if we had picked another player it most likely still would not have been JVR because if we rated him a higher talent then we had the chance and so did another 19 picks before he was selected

Sure JVR is looking great and is what we are looking at needing soon but the club has very good scouts in the west that have not let us down with their knowledge and scouting.

Also selecting JVR would almost certainly means we miss Sonsie as all the picks get effected

Lets hope we now have the makings of a top end Defence in 2 years time with
Brown - Gibcus - Rioli
Young - Balta - Smith

Top end defense with Brown and Smith???? Lol Martyn won the ressies bnf, Naish almost won the Liston medal and we gave them the sars. Smith and Brown have shown sweet FA at the lower level yet so doubtful anyone's factoring any long term senior team around them.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Top end defense with Brown and Smith???? Lol Martyn won the ressies bnf, Naish almost won the Liston medal and we gave them the sars. Smith and Brown have shown sweet FA at the lower level yet so doubtful anyone's factoring any long term senior team around them.

Perhaps you need help reading !!

Lets hope we have the makings .....

carry on sunshine

 

[RockJobster0312]

will be forever compared to Jacob Van Rooeyn

Which is unfair on everyone involved as from what I’ve heard, we wouldn’t have selected Van Rooyen even if he was available at our last pick in that draft (pick 30 - Judson Clarke).

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Tambling - Franklin we have history .

 

[RockJobster0312]

Tambling - Franklin we have history .

Go far enough back and every team does.

That was over 18 years ago and has absolutely no bearing on recent drafting decisions.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Top end defense with Brown and Smith???? Lol Martyn won the ressies bnf, Naish almost won the Liston medal and we gave them the sars. Smith and Brown have shown sweet FA at the lower level yet so doubtful anyone's factoring any long term senior team around them.

JVR had a purple patch for 10 minutes last night after not getting near the footy for the rest of the game. And the only reason, the only reason, he had that great patch was because we stupidly moved our best tall defender in Balta into the ruck. It was an understandable roll of the dice as Grundy got well on top in the ruck but it created a mismatch in our back half.
But please people, don't overhype JVR because of one hot patch caused by him playing on an inexperienced player. His own coach admitted he was so close to be being subbed out of the game, as he had been so ineffective.
He could well be a decent player as he’s certainly shown ability so far, but hold off on the over the top judgements, and comparing him to young Brown, who unfortunately hasn’t had a chance to show us what he can do largely due to injury.

 

[tugga]

Might turn into an absolute dud yet
The comp is littered with forwards who were the next Tony Lockett in their first 5 games

Van Rooyen won't be a dud. Can see already he will be a very good player.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Van Rooyen won't be a dud. Can see already he will be a very good player.

A few mentions that he might be a flight risk and will want to return to WA at some point
Would be interesting if that played into us not picking him

 

[Simche]

What’s Brown’s contract situation? I have this horror feeling he’ll be down the highway in 12-24 months looking a million dollars for Geelong…..

On our list management I haven’t gotten it for some time. My view has always been you take best key position or pure blood midfielder. At least with the latter they’re usually good enough to play on the flanks as they develop.

Seems we’ve fallen into the trap for years of going with high risk high reward flanker types hoping they turn into the next Bont or later project key position players hoping they come good.

It’s a difficult game when our first pick has been in the high teens but it’s only really come through on Bolton and Balta since the days of getting Rance and the sheer number of first rounds we’ve gotten wrong means I think the heat needs to come onto the list manager and their team (Higgins, CCJ at other clubs, RCD, Lennon, Corey Ellis

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Corey Ellis

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.4

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

and even back to busts like Conca).

 

[living_in_syd]

A few mentions that he might be a flight risk and will want to return to WA at some point
Would be interesting if that played into us not picking him

Which still wouldnt stop usdrafting him. Look at the haul of picks melb got for jackson.