Player Watch #31: Josh Goater - re-signed until the end of 2026

[Junk yard]

Where’s he at in terms of recovery and anticipated game time?

He's nearly up to a year since he done his achillies and did a hammy early in to full training. We won't see him in the mix for the one's for some time.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Where’s he at in terms of recovery and anticipated game time?

2-3 weeks away from playing and you’d imagine he’d have to have a 2-4 weeks away block in the VFL before getting into the seniors.

 

[giantroo]

Josh Goater's return from a hamstring issue has been delayed, with the 21-year-old still needing to meet certain strength markers before progressing in his rehab.

"Josh will maintain his on-field conditioning program away from the main group with a strong focus on ticking off his higher-level strength markers,' White said.

"We can't put an accurate timeframe on it (his return) until this is achieved, but once his hamstring strength has returned to the required level, he'll follow Wardlaw's plan of reintegration into the main group train for two-to-three weeks before returning to play."

 

[StazMob]

Geez really starting to worry about this guy. I've been a big fan since his draft and have been hoping he becomes a regular contributor in the 1's... I wonder where the club is at if they might look to give him another year, not dissimilar to B. George to give him ample time to get his body right without the pressure of trying to show his value given our other options at HB currently.

 

[footy2016]

Unfortunately now a massive worry. All the ability in the world, however his body just doesn’t seem to be able to handle AFL football.

 

[gokangas]

Josh Goater's return from a hamstring issue has been delayed, with the 21-year-old still needing to meet certain strength markers before progressing in his rehab.

"Josh will maintain his on-field conditioning program away from the main group with a strong focus on ticking off his higher-level strength markers,' White said.

"We can't put an accurate timeframe on it (his return) until this is achieved, but once his hamstring strength has returned to the required level, he'll follow Wardlaw's plan of reintegration into the main group train for two-to-three weeks before returning to play."

Not sure what to make of this. Is this dog whistling for he isn't doing the hard yards?

 

[Devington]

Not sure what to make of this. Is this dog whistling for he isn't doing the hard yards?

Could be, but could just as easily be that his body just doesn't respond the way they want/expect it to.

 

[DocSholl]

Have seen this movie before

 

[Junk yard]

We brought him back too early from the achillies. Wouldn't expect to see him play until later in the year. Really can't afford another leg injury on return.

 

[My Left Foote]

Not sure what to make of this. Is this dog whistling for he isn't doing the hard yards?

Take it at face value; once his hamstring strength has returned to the required level…

 

[Tas]

We brought him back too early from the achillies. Wouldn't expect to see him play until later in the year. Really can't afford another leg injury on return.

We don't flip a coin and see if we bring someone back in early or not, they have medical specialists that track their rehab and advise when they are ready to resume training.

 

[Junk yard]

We don't flip a coin and see if we bring someone back in early or not, they have medical specialists that track their rehab and advise when they are ready to resume training.

Yeah and they got it wrong. Thats not up for debate. He did his hamstring less than two weeks after resuming full training. I'm not sure what your point is?

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Yeah and they got it wrong. Thats not up for debate. He did his hamstring less than two weeks after resuming full training. I'm not sure what your point is?

How is that 'not up for debate'?

 

[Tas]

Yeah and they got it wrong. Thats not up for debate. He did his hamstring less than two weeks after resuming full training. I'm not sure what your point is?

My point is just because he did his hamstring again, it doesn't necessarily mean we got it wrong. Were we at fault for the original time he did his hamstring? For whatever reason, be it genetic or biomechanical or whatever, people get injured, their body fails them where other people in the same circumstance don't get injured.

I don't think the specialists (which are not club medicos) would have approved him to resume training unless he had passed the necessary rehab protocols. Wardlaw blew his hamstring again despite giving him a ridiculous amount of time and rehab to build up his strength. Some players are just prone to repeating certain types of injuries no matter how much prep you do.

To suggest his doctor committed malpractice by telling him to return prematurely is a big stretch, even for Big Footy... unless you are his doctor. In that case I accept your confession.

 

[Junk yard]

How is that 'not up for debate'?

Because he injured himself immediately upon return.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Because he injured himself immediately upon return.

Debatable if that had anything to do with him returning too soon

 

[Junk yard]

My point is just because he did his hamstring again, it doesn't necessarily mean we got it wrong. Were we at fault for the original time he did his hamstring? For whatever reason, be it genetic or biomechanical or whatever, people get injured, their body fails them where other people in the same circumstance don't get injured.

I don't think the specialists (which are not club medicos) would have approved him to resume training unless he had passed the necessary rehab protocols. Wardlaw blew his hamstring again despite giving him a ridiculous amount of time and rehab to build up his strength. Some players are just prone to repeating certain types of injuries no matter how much prep you do.

To suggest his doctor committed malpractice by telling him to return prematurely is a big stretch, even for Big Footy... unless you are his doctor. In that case I accept your confession.

The achillies injury affects all muscles on both legs due to atrophy, changing of running gait and several other factors. Josh doing his hamstring almost immediately after returning to full training is a result of returning too early.

 

[Junk yard]

Debatable if that had anything to do with him returning too soon

If you're right and it had nothing to do with his achillies and recovery then he's cooked.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

If you're right and it had nothing to do with his achillies and recovery then he's cooked.

If I'm right this is all mere conjecture, and he may or may not be cooked.

 

[Shermanator]

 

[Tas]

The achillies injury affects all muscles on both legs due to atrophy, changing of running gait and several other factors. Josh doing his hamstring almost immediately after returning to full training is a result of returning too early.

Who knows, I am not his doctor and none of us have access to his medical information. Perhaps it was related, perhaps it wasn't.

Given his large number of issues that has plagued him, I just don't think it is fair to blame the medical staff unless we get more information that suggests it could have been that. I just hope he has a period of stability, like Tarrant had, and is able to have an AFL career. I'd much rather he had shoulder issues than leg issues though.

 

[the big lebowski]

Negative Nancy’s on the Goat. He can take the whole year to get right imo.

Lmac will play out the year. Tucker. FOS. Archer. Harderman. Bergman.

Zero rush and a big part of the future.

He did his Achilles. He still has his pace.

That’s the main thing.

 

[the big lebowski]

Who knows, I am not his doctor and none of us have access to his medical information. Perhaps it was related, perhaps it wasn't.

Given his large number of issues that has plagued him, I just don't think it is fair to blame the medical staff unless we get more information that suggests it could have been that. I just hope he has a period of stability, like Tarrant had, and is able to have an AFL career. I'd much rather he had shoulder issues than leg issues though.

Large number of soft tissues?

Unless he’s had a specific set back then he’s done one hamstring as far as I know.

He hurt a knee in his second year.

Did his Achilles.

And now coming back from that, did a hammy.

 

[Junk yard]

Who knows, I am not his doctor and none of us have access to his medical information. Perhaps it was related, perhaps it wasn't.

Given his large number of issues that has plagued him, I just don't think it is fair to blame the medical staff unless we get more information that suggests it could have been that. I just hope he has a period of stability, like Tarrant had, and is able to have an AFL career. I'd much rather he had shoulder issues than leg issues though.

So you think a hamstring injury within a month of full loading has nothing to do with his achillies rupture?

 

[Tas]

Large number of soft tissues?

Unless he’s had a specific set back then he’s done one hamstring as far as I know.

He hurt a knee in his second year.

Did his Achilles.

And now coming back from that, did a hammy.

I said issues, not soft tissues. But regardless, he turns 22 in June and has played 12 games because of those injuries. Taken in the same draft as Curtis who has 61 games. It is a massive setback in his formative years.

He is out of contract this year, I hope he gets an extension but if he joins the Garner Hall of Injured then his career might be over quicker than he gets back on the park. Obviously, I am hoping for the best but this has been a disastrous period for the poor kid. I just hope he can have some luck with his body as he would massively improve our side.