Autopsy 31 point loss to Collingwood

[Callipygian]

you're prob right.. but Roberts was dropped last year for 4-5 games.
I think Roberts lack of leg speed is a real disadvantage to him, in the midfield as well. Parkers skills, toughness, endurance etc were all very good, but we saw last year his speed really drop off and he would get left behind at the contest.
Roberts speed and endurance aren't up to scratch

Roberts is not quick - probably one of the reasons why he slid to our second pick that draft - but his endurance is fine. Not all players can be quick and I reckon he can compensate for it other ways. He's a strong contested ball winner, has a great leg and a good footy brain. That should be enough for a successful career. It's a pity he isn't dual-sided.

 

[bedford]

Roberts is not quick - probably one of the reasons why he slid to our second pick that draft - but his endurance is fine. Not all players can be quick and I reckon he can compensate for it other ways. He's a strong contested ball winner, has a great leg and a good footy brain. That should be enough for a successful career. It's a pity he isn't dual-sided.

Got a few mates

 

[tombomb]

I just want someone, anyone, who can win the ball in the middle of the ground.

I don't care if they are fast, slow, good endurance, a good bloke, a crap kick, whatever ...

Just anyone who can win contests in tight, not get pushed out of the way, and not fumble.

We got handled by Ned Long on Friday night. Ned Long!!!

 

[The King!]

I agree about the middle, but I think the McCartin forward experiment is just an embarrassment. It’s obvious that TMac isn’t and will never be even a mediocre forward and it’s painful that our coach seems determined to turn him into one.

I don’t think he’s a good mark at all. He’s decent at uncontested intercepts, but that’s about all.

I think he is a good grab in defence generally and on a lead though he does fumble a few like Friday.

Either way I am with you he is a defender

 

[Wheresbuddy]

I agree about the middle, but I think the McCartin forward experiment is just an embarrassment. It’s obvious that TMac isn’t and will never be even a mediocre forward and it’s painful that our coach seems determined to turn him into one.

I don’t think he’s a good mark at all. He’s decent at uncontested intercepts, but that’s about all.

We have no one who is a reliable contested mark down the line which is a big part of why we seem to hit a brick wall when the corridor is taken away from us. McCartin forward is an attempt to fix this but I agree, the rest of his forward craft is not good

 

[Big Blood]

We have no one who is a reliable contested mark down the line which is a big part of why we seem to hit a brick wall when the corridor is taken away from us. McCartin forward is an attempt to fix this but I agree, the rest of his forward craft is not good

McCartin is one of our best marks because we're a terrible marking team. Lost the contested marks 11-1, as the coach pointed out in his presser. We miss Sam Reid.

 

[giantsully]

At the risk of picking at almost week old scabs, geez I was disappointed with Lloyd and Rampe. On a night when the Pies' old boys were fabulous, these two guys in particular were, well, frankly, putrid.

Couple of faithful old warriors who have given us great service over the years, but they won't want to dish up many more games like that.

 

[bedford]

At the risk of picking at almost week old scabs, geez I was disappointed with Lloyd and Rampe. On a night when the Pies' old boys were fabulous, these two guys in particular were, well, frankly, putrid.

Couple of faithful old warriors who have given us great service over the years, but they won't want to dish up many more games like that.

Rampe doesn't even punch from behind anymore

 

[Neverwas]

I think if the situation was reversed, and Collingwood were coming off a 6 day break, and we were coming off an 8 day break, our old timers would have played much better, and theirs might have struggled .

It seemed to me that both Rampe and Lloyd were struggling to fully recover from last week's game and it's no coincidence that they are the ones people seem most disappointed with.

 

[GreyGooseGuy88]

I'm sick of our club turning opposition spuds into A-graders overnight. Happens all the time with us.

 

[bedford]

I'm sick of our club turning opposition spuds into A-graders overnight. Happens all the time with us.

Who's the spuds you talk of

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Who's the spuds you talk of

Collingwood - Ned Long
GWS - Daniel Lloyd and Sam Reid
GC - Nick Holman and Darcy Macpherson
Bombers - Nick Hind
Port - Powell-Pepper and Drew

Above are not necessarily spuds but seem to play well above their usual output when they line up against us.

 

[rustycrate]

Who's the spuds you talk of

Rampe-rejected by Dogs after being on their list. Missed at least 2 drafts as well.
Lloyd-rejected in 2 consecutive drafts.
Dawson-over looked by everyone and rookied.
Papley-ditto Dawson.

 

[Punts]

Rampe-rejected by Dogs after being on their list. Missed at least 2 drafts as well.
Lloyd-rejected in 2 consecutive drafts.
Dawson-over looked by everyone and rookied.
Papley-ditto Dawson.

Dawson wasn’t a rookie

Pick 56

 

[Punts]

Also pretty sure western bulldogs snubbed Rampe

 

[bedford]

With respect to all i asked the Grey Goose

 

[bedford]

And i think a couple of you have gone to swans and that's not what it was about

 

[rustycrate]

Dawson wasn’t a rookie

Pick 56

Almost a rookie. My bad.

 

[rustycrate]

Also pretty sure western bulldogs snubbed Rampe

played for a VFL side instead. Then went back to Sydney before being rookied.

I have not being doing my homework. Just taliking off the top of my head.

 

[bedford]

played for a VFL side instead. Then went back to Sydney before being rookied.

I have not being doing my homework. Just taliking off the top of my head.

Wasn't it Williamstown 2nds

 

[Olian]

Wasn't it Williamstown 2nds

Williamstown 1st and was invited to train at the Bulldogs a couple weeks of times but was overlooked.

 

[bedford]

Williamstown 1st and was invited to train at the Bulldogs a couple weeks of times but was overlooked.

It was Willy development team to start with , played 2 or 3 years and played in the losing GF against Port

 

[giantsully]

Collingwood - Ned Long
GWS - Daniel Lloyd and Sam Reid
GC - Nick Holman and Darcy Macpherson
Bombers - Nick Hind
Port - Powell-Pepper and Drew

Above are not necessarily spuds but seem to play well above their usual output when they line up against us.

I reckon there is a whole sub-genre of AFL players in the category "Played their best game of AFL in a GF vs Swans", including Langford Jr, Matt Spangher, Tom Boyd (heck, half that 2016 WB team, many of whom went on to complete football anonymity).

 

[Wheresbuddy]

I reckon there is a whole sub-genre of AFL players in the category "Played their best game of AFL in a GF vs Swans", including Langford Jr, Matt Spangher, Tom Boyd (heck, half that 2016 WB team, many of whom went on to complete football anonymity).

Maybe we need to stick JJ on SPP and not on Butters / Rozee / JHF

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I reckon there is a whole sub-genre of AFL players in the category "Played their best game of AFL in a GF vs Swans", including Langford Jr, Matt Spangher, Tom Boyd (heck, half that 2016 WB team, many of whom went on to complete football anonymity).

Its hilarious and depressing actually i think Lohman will end up a good small forward but he turned into a morph of Modra and Rioli.