4 Corners report

[slyolddog]

Swans come out with serious stink of stench with their coverup of O'Loughlins role in it

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s1100551.htm

 

[campbell]

I think that the whole Brisbane thing is wrong as we didn't have a player on our list named Scott in 1999 or 2000. Strange that one.How can this current player called Scott be involved, when he doesn't exist.

Also I always thought that Ricky OLoughlan was in Adelaide playing in that time frame not his brother Michael.

I also read that Heuskas has engaged lawyers.So this could get ugly. These guys were slandered badly,on the guise of a prerecorded tape with a lawyer. Oh please any prosecuter worth his salt will have that on toast.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Originally posted by campbell
I think that the whole Brisbane thing is worng as we didn't have a player on our list named Scott in 1999 or 2000. Strange that one.How can this current player called Scott be involved, when he doesn't exist.

Also I always tought that Ricky OLoughlan was in Adelaide playing in that time frame not his brother Michael.

I also read that Heuskas has engaged lawyers.So this couuld get ugly. These guys were slandered badly, on the guise of a prerecorded tape with a lawyer. Oh please any prosecuter worth his salt will have that on toast.

When this story first came out when it did, my original thoughts were Heuskes.

Perhaps that Scott could have been Chris?

 

[skilts]

Originally posted by campbell
I think that the whole Brisbane thing is worng as we didn't have a player on our list named Scott in 1999 or 2000. Strange that one.How can this current player called Scott be involved, when he doesn't exist.

Also I always tought that Ricky OLoughlan was in Adelaide playing in that time frame not his brother Michael.

I also read that Heuskas has engaged lawyers.So this couuld get ugly. These guys were slandered badly, on the guise of a prerecorded tape with a lawyer. Oh please any prosecuter worth his salt will have that on toast.

If I were Adam Heuskes, I'd certainly have availed myself of the services of a lawyer over the past five years. If I were a lawyer, I'd be extremely pleased to see Adam Heauskes walk into my office.

Re: the Scott person. It is possible that this wasn't the Brisbane player's real name. TV reporters are notoriously devious.

 

[campbell]

If you read the 4 Corners transcript, it specificaly says this ladies boyfriend was a friend of 15 years standing of a player with the 1st name Scott.

We have had 2 players since the merger named Scott. Scott Bamford who left the Lions in 1998 due to an illness in the family.The other is Scott McIvor who retired in 1997.

So when this was supposedly happening we had no player on the list called Scott.
You would think they would get their facts straight.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Originally posted by campbell
If you read the 4 Corners transcript, it specificaly says this ladies boyfriend was a player with the 1st name Scott.

We have had 2 players since the merger named Scott. Scott Bamford who left the Lions in 1998 due to an illness in the family.The other is Scott McIvor who retired in 1997.

So when this was supposedly happening we had no player on the list called Scott.
You would think they would get their facts straight.

However, when they were investigating it, they spoke to an ex player down in Melbourne. And I know Scott Bamford was in Melbourne.

 

[demon_dave]

Originally posted by slyolddog
Swans come out with serious stink of stench with their coverup of O'Loughlins role in it

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s1100551.htm

Not only the Swans but Port and Lions don't come up smelling of roses, in my opinion O'Loughlin and Burgoyne should be deregistered, they admitted their guilt once they paid the money. Heuskes should be doing time, he obviously quit because it was getting way too hot to continue playing.
What is it with 'jocks' and abusing women? In my opinion blokes who rape women together are covering up some homosexual tendencies, they don't have sex with each other but they like to be together while they are abusing and raping women, very suspect sexuality.

 

[SpecialBruce]

This chick could have been over reacting aswell. I mean, 97% or so of rape cases the woman would have brought it on herself in some way, shape or form.

 

[campbell]

re Scott Bamford, from what I remember his wife was very ill and he moved back to Vic to be near the whole family unit, he also didn't go on that trip as he was looking after their small children.That was end of season 1998.He played with Geelong in 1999.

 

[Jumbo]

Originally posted by SpecialBruce
This chick could have been over reacting aswell. I mean, 97% or so of rape cases the woman would have brought it on herself in some way, shape or form.

I guess your not a big supporter no means no!!

 

[campbell]

it makes u wonder when her and her boyfriend sit there and say that his mate was Scott who was a player with the Lions.When there was no such player.

It was investigated at length by Scotland Yard and no case was there.

Something stinks in it.

The Adelaide thing, if you read what O'Laughlin said in his statement, it mentioned hi family. I am sure during that season he was with Sydney in Sydney. They even said thats why he was never interviewed because he was interstate.That makes it smell wiffy.How can he be in 2 places at once.

 

[slyolddog]

Most likely "Scott" isn't "Scott" and they were covering their arses

 

[Docker_Brat]

In his column in the Advertiser a few weeks back North Adelaide coach Andrew Jarman commented that he wouldn't tolerate having a rapist at the club as he has daughters of his own.

According to them, Heuskes wasn't charged with a crime, therefore he is innocent.

 

[campbell]

They said it was his real name, with the lady they said lets call her Sarah. So if it wasn't his real name they would have said lets say call him Scott, and they didn't.

Also it said with O'Laughlin that he was never interviewed. if they thought he had committed a crime he would have been interviewed.He wasn't, so he is in the clear.Thats a smear on his name.

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by slyolddog
Most likely "Scott" isn't "Scott" and they were covering their arses

Exactly. Same as the women involved aren't being referred to by their real names.

 

[demon_dave]

Originally posted by SpecialBruce
This chick could have been over reacting aswell. I mean, 97% or so of rape cases the woman would have brought it on herself in some way, shape or form.

your kidding right

 

[slyolddog]

Originally posted by campbell
Also it said with O'Laughlin that he was never interviewed. if they thought he had committed a crime he would have been interviewed.He wasn't, so he is in the clear.Thats a smear on his name.

MAN: You were absolutely positive it was Adam Heuskes, Peter Burgoyne and Michael O'Loughlin?

JANE: Yeah.

TICKY FULLERTON: Jane says she was r*ped by Adam Heuskes and Peter Burgoyne and that at one point, Heuskes and Michael O'Loughlin were masturbating close to her face.

TICKY FULLERTON: And what of the third player, Michael O'Loughlin? He was not charged. His club, the Sydney Swans, says that he was never interviewed by police. This fact has been used by O'Loughlin to support his claim of innocence. Adelaide police will not comment publicly on the case. It's understood there was an intention to interview Michael O'Loughlin. One reason this did not happen was that he was interstate. A year later Heuskes, Burgoyne and O'Loughlin paid a reported $200,000 to Jane in a settlement. No liability was admitted by the footballers. O'Loughlin said he paid secretly to protect the integrity of his family. Jane was also bound to secrecy through a confidentiality agreement.

VANESSA SWAN, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SERVICES AGAINST SEXUAL VIOLENCE: What we hear of is payments being made with clauses in them to try and silence the victims, and certainly that's out-and-out cover-up. That is out-and-out sweeping under the carpet.

TICKY FULLERTON: The football clubs were closely involved in the negotiations. Port Adelaide attended meetings with Peter Burgoyne and his lawyer. The Sydney Swans have used the confidentiality agreement to imply that Jane cleared Michael O'Loughlin of any part in the alleged assault. Six weeks ago, the club put out a carefully crafted press release that read "In a signed statement, the woman concerned said: 'I want to make it absolutely clear I have no claim against Michael O'Loughlin.'"

But Jane's lawyer has advised Four Corners that there is no separate signed statement. It is, in fact, part of the confidentiality agreement referred to in the Swans' press release. Four Corners believes that the statement releases O'Loughlin from legal claims, but does not confirm he had no role in the alleged assault.

ANDREW DEMETRIOU, AFL CHIEF EXECUTIVE: The Sydney Swans Football Club acted absolutely appropriately in coming forward to assure everyone and protect Michael O'Loughlin as an individual by saying that he wasn't involved in an alleged sexual assault. I see no issue with that, and whether they've taken a line out of the confidentiality agreement to protect Michael O'Loughlin, I think the Sydney Swans have acted appropriately.

TICKY FULLERTON: But as you say, the message seems to be that he wasn't involved in the alleged assault at all, and that is not what the woman has alleged.

ANDREW DEMETRIOU: Well, again, um...that matter was investigated.

TICKY FULLERTON: Jane's cousins are outraged at this message that O'Loughlin was not involved in the alleged assault.

JANE'S COUSIN: You know, at the end of the day, we know what's true and right and I can categorically say that...that that's not correct and that, um, just because he wasn't interviewed by the police at the time was by the fact that he was in Sydney, not because he wasn't...associated with the...with the incident.

 

[Jumbo]

Re the Adelaide incident interesting to see that the 'victim' agreed on 200k to keep silent then signed over the rights to the story to her cousin

 

[huddo]

Originally posted by SpecialBruce
This chick could have been over reacting aswell. I mean, 97% or so of rape cases the woman would have brought it on herself in some way, shape or form.

What?! Because she's a female shape or form and some guy wants to have his way with her?

No wonder footy's got a problem - even the bottom feeders are waving the flag

 

[campbell]

Ricky O'Laughlin was playing in Adelaide within the time frame, maybe it was him.

it did say she had had 10 beers and had passed out. Now I am female and would hate to think of something like this happening to a friend of mine, but when you are in that state you don't remember clearly things as she said.Also it said she had passed out.Something is not right here.

Maybe she was r*ped, but by someone else.If their was clear DNA and medical evidence they would be in jail now. Thus there was nothing to back up her allegations.

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by SpecialBruce
This chick could have been over reacting aswell. I mean, 97% or so of rape cases the woman would have brought it on herself in some way, shape or form.

What planet are you living on?

 

[lanemorphett]

Originally posted by campbell
I think that the whole Brisbane thing is wrong as we didn't have a player on our list named Scott in 1999 or 2000. Strange that one.How can this current player called Scott be involved, when he doesn't exist.

Also I always thought that Ricky OLoughlan was in Adelaide playing in that time frame not his brother Michael.

I also read that Heuskas has engaged lawyers.So this could get ugly. These guys were slandered badly,on the guise of a prerecorded tape with a lawyer. Oh please any prosecuter worth his salt will have that on toast.

Prosecutors don't get involved in libel cases, as they are civil, not criminal, actions.

Michael O'Loughlin might not have been playing football in Adelaide, but surely he could have been visiting, seeing as that is where he came from.

I'm a Swans supporter and I think this stinks.

 

[SpecialBruce]

I think some people misinterpreted my comment.

They r*ped her, they should get whats coming to them and they should be thrown in jail, however, most cases you will find the Woman could have brought it on herself by the way she acted etc.

I'm not defending these low life scum, I was just stating a fact.

Heuskes should be in jail and the other ones should be too.

 

[jim boy]

This whole story stinks. It's old news dressed up to look fresh. Quite simply, in both cases the women were so inebriated that they working on auto-pilot, their recollections are simply not reliable. Whether they were r*ped or not simply can't be determined by their recollections alone. It's no wonder that DPP droppped the cases, and really, that should be that. But 4 corners, have simply followed the latest fad in news and jumped on the assumption that the players are guilty.

 

[BrisGirl]

Originally posted by Jim Boy
This whole story stinks. It's old news dressed up to look fresh.

Absolutely.

Everyone should be looking at ABC and letting them know that their 'journalists' are lazy and sensationalist.

Rape is a terrible and violent act and if the accused has been found guilty, should go to jail, but to drag this story out again just for ratings and 'entertainment' is disgusting.