Play Nice 46th President of the United States: Joe Biden 2: Incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim

[DaTBird187]

I don't think celeb endorsements have the effect a lot think they will

You wait until Kid Rock shoots a case of Corrs Light with an AR-15. Then you'll see real political power.

 

[Satan]

You wait until Kid Rock shoots a case of Corrs Light with an AR-15. Then you'll see real political power.

Yeah Nah

Kid Rock mocked for drinking Bud Light after igniting boycott

Kid Rock previously posted a video in which he destroyed cases of Bud Light with a gun in response to the beer's decision to partner with Dylan Mulvaney.

www.newsweek.com

 

[spinynorman]

Nobody should be mad at people who refuse to vote for this scumbag.

 

[jatz14]

Exactly

Not sure how you've come to question this, thought my allusion is that I'm not of maga opinion was quite clear.

So let's be clear, IMO maga thinks that anyone left of themselves is fringe left, even sensibly centred left leaners.

Sensibly self centred lefties are by and large fans of liberal democracy, and let's also be clear those in the centre overwhelmingly outnumber those with fringe views.

Which is why IMO, IF it is maga's aim to annoy the fringe left then it'd be an own goal. It doesn't make sense.

It is, got confused about who I was responding to.

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[Trouto]

Errr, I can’t remember the Dems refusing to accept the election result but that’s just me.

I must of imagined Hilary conceding on the night of 2016 election loss.

Just admit you like Trump and want him to be a dictator, it would at least be honest.

You dont remember 2 years of the "Russia-gate" investigations where they were all adamant that Trump only won due to "Russian interference"?

Selective memory?

 

[Trouto]

As an American, it is a disgrace that we have someone senile like this as our leader. And before anyone comments, I am not a Trump fan either. Whoever wins in November it will be hard to take.

Truly is astonishing with all the politicians we have over here and these two old farts are the best we can come up with? Smh.

As a non-USA'ian, i totally agree with you. I rekon it must be completely rigged for reasons yet to be determined. The Dems definitely have much better people in their ranks that would get more votes than Biden but he is put forward as the leader...I just dont get it.

If the Dems had run with Sanders in 2016, he would have s**t it in over Trump, but they went with Killary, probably cos she was the mob boss leader at the time and so desperate to be the first women pres - such a shame she missed out...

I think the GOP only accept Trump cos he has done so well at stirring up the yokel vote and they dont have anyone who even comes close to matching him in their ranks.

I guess this is the result of a political system completely run by money.

 

[Carringbush2010]

If the Dems had run with Sanders in 2016, he would have s**t it in over Trump, but they went with Killary, probably cos she was the mob boss leader at the time and so desperate to be the first women pres - such a shame she missed out...

This is subject to opinion, popular opinion tells us that trump didn't get voted in, it was a protest vote to 'stop tha left'. Many consider Colonel Sanders to be too far left to get popular vote, even more left than Hillary.

There was no doubt that the negative campaigning against clinton was piled on top, but there was def an element of a scare campaign against fringe left ideology.

It had been building up for some time.

Fast forward to 2020, Joe didn't get voted in, it was a vote to stop trump, because the electorate had a taste of how abhorrent don is.

Now the repugnants are goin down the boogeyman left mantra again. Says it in the 2nd sentence in the 1st paragraph.

If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left,

Talk about rent free, the whole agenda is about the scary left. Is it a scare their base ploy or are they genuinely scared of the left?

 

[Maggie5]

You dont remember 2 years of the "Russia-gate" investigations where they were all adamant that Trump only won due to "Russian interference"?

Selective memory?

Not selective memory, just that the report was difficult to read with 99% being redacted by Barr and the misleading letter he wrote about it.

 

[Trouto]

This is subject to opinion, popular opinion tells us that trump didn't get voted in, it was a protest vote to 'stop tha left'. Many consider Colonel Sanders to be too far left to get popular vote, even more left than Hillary.

There was no doubt that the negative campaigning against clinton was piled on top, but there was def an element of a scare campaign against fringe left ideology.

It had been building up for some time.

Fast forward to 2020, Joe didn't get voted in, it was a vote to stop trump, because the electorate had a taste of how abhorrent don is.

Now the repugnants are goin down the boogeyman left mantra again. Says it in the 2nd sentence in the 1st paragraph.

If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left,

Talk about rent free, the whole agenda is about the scary left. Is it a scare their base ploy or are they genuinely scared of the left?

Its the main tactic for both sides to be honest. Both are riding a ticket of "Dont vote for orange bad man" or "dont vote for dementia Joe"

 

[Trouto]

Not selective memory, just that the report was difficult to read with 99% being redacted by Barr and the misleading letter he wrote about it.

yeah the report was redacted due to it having no evidence.

I was talking about the rabid 2 year media campaign

 

[Carringbush2010]

Its the main tactic for both sides to be honest. Both are riding a ticket of "Dont vote for orange bad man" or "dont vote for dementia Joe"

In any case if the colonel was the right candidate instead of clinton then it would've been sanders v trump.

But it wasn't.

 

[spinynorman]

In any case if the colonel was the right candidate instead of clinton then it would've been sanders v trump.

But it wasn't.

Being the right candidate for the Democratic primaries isn’t the same thing as being the right candidate for a presidential election.

 

[GreyCrow]

yeah the report was redacted due to it having no evidence.

I was talking about the rabid 2 year media campaign

I recall there was not much Hillary45 around - just a desire to see if another country interfered in an election . There was an immediate concession and no riots took place to get the Senate to reject the Electoral college

There were one or two lone voices crying but not the daily continuous snowflaking by the easily offended Republicans and now MAGAs - 4 years - 4 long teary eyed years.

James Comey did much more damage to Hillary than the infamous Zinoviev Letter did to British Labour

 

[Carringbush2010]

Being the right candidate for the Democratic primaries isn’t the same thing as being the right candidate for a presidential election.

In any case Sanders was / is considered too far left to be a pres candidate. That's how I read it anyway.

 

[Blue1980]

You dont remember 2 years of the "Russia-gate" investigations where they were all adamant that Trump only won due to "Russian interference"?

Selective memory?

I remember all of that, and none of that suggested that the election count itself was rigged. As I said, Hilary conceded on the night. There is no similarly to 2020.

I’m hardly running cover for the democrats here, Hilary was a s**t complacent candidate who if she actually went to the battleground states probably would have won. If they actually let Bernie Sanders run they’d have won too.

The CIA confirmed they meddled though Trump believed that trustworthy Putin it was all above board https://time.com/5340060/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-summit-russia-meddling/

 

[Blue1980]

As a non-USA'ian, i totally agree with you. I rekon it must be completely rigged for reasons yet to be determined. The Dems definitely have much better people in their ranks that would get more votes than Biden but he is put forward as the leader...I just dont get it.

If the Dems had run with Sanders in 2016, he would have s**t it in over Trump, but they went with Killary, probably cos she was the mob boss leader at the time and so desperate to be the first women pres - such a shame she missed out...

I think the GOP only accept Trump cos he has done so well at stirring up the yokel vote and they dont have anyone who even comes close to matching him in their ranks.

I guess this is the result of a political system completely run by money.

Yep 100% right with Bernie. He’d have won easy in 2016 and 2020. They went with Hilary cos she was a corporate democrat and tried to frame it as them being super progressive cos woman.

GOP are terrified of the MAGA base who make up such a large proportion of their base now, so even though most of the elected GOP members still hate Trump, they all know they can’t go against “the boss”.

And yes the donor money that has run rampant since the Reagan era has led us here.

 

[Blue1980]

This is subject to opinion, popular opinion tells us that trump didn't get voted in, it was a protest vote to 'stop tha left'. Many consider Colonel Sanders to be too far left to get popular vote, even more left than Hillary.

There was no doubt that the negative campaigning against clinton was piled on top, but there was def an element of a scare campaign against fringe left ideology.

It had been building up for some time.

Fast forward to 2020, Joe didn't get voted in, it was a vote to stop trump, because the electorate had a taste of how abhorrent don is.

Now the repugnants are goin down the boogeyman left mantra again. Says it in the 2nd sentence in the 1st paragraph.

If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left,

Talk about rent free, the whole agenda is about the scary left. Is it a scare their base ploy or are they genuinely scared of the left?

No, Trump was a vote for trump in 2016.

The republicans make out any democrat is a baby eating communist, so running Bernie instead of Hilary or Biden wouldn’t scare them any further.

Like when you’ve already dialed the hate and fear to 11, where else can they go?

The MAGA base don’t fear actual proper leftist policies (universal health care, paid parental leave, higher minimum wage etc), their fear is about culture war issues such as immigration, gay/trans people, religion etc. None of the culture wars issues would be any more scary for them with Bernie.

 

[Blue1980]

Its the main tactic for both sides to be honest. Both are riding a ticket of "Dont vote for orange bad man" or "dont vote for dementia Joe"

Except voting for orange bad man is a legit threat to democracy (again longer term, I don’t anticipate death camps Jan 2025 if trump is elected and elections banned).

Biden is a status quo corporate democrat. Still not great, it’s like a choice between 2000s era neo con republicans and actual fascists, what a time to be alive.

 

[Blue1980]

In any case Sanders was / is considered too far left to be a pres candidate. That's how I read it anyway.

He was too far left for corporate democrats and their donors. Not the general population or even the democrat voting base.

The democrat primary process is funnily enough way less democratic than the republican primary process.

 

[Chief]

You dont remember 2 years of the "Russia-gate" investigations where they were all adamant that Trump only won due to "Russian interference"?

While some people probably thought that, it was pretty much agreed that Russia did interfere, but the effect was undetermined.

We KNOW there were fake online groups formed, that organised "rallies" or basically just pointed people at locations to cause trouble.

 

[Trouto]

While some people probably thought that, it was pretty much agreed that Russia did interfere, but the effect was undetermined.

We KNOW there were fake online groups formed, that organised "rallies" or basically just pointed people at locations to cause trouble.

i thought the report said something like they did identify Russian ads trying to sway voters, but it came to a total less than one dollar worth?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

i thought the report said something like they did identify Russian ads trying to sway voters, but it came to a total less than one dollar worth?

What does "less than one dollar worth" even mean in this context?

 

[Carringbush2010]

No, Trump was a vote for trump in 2016.

Again, subject to opinion, certainly the scary left campaign was used.

None of the culture wars issues would be any more scary for them with Bernie.

Yeah but maga don't know that.

 

[Carringbush2010]

GOP are terrified of the MAGA base who make up such a large proportion of their base now

By large what do you mean, a majority? And do you have evidence of this?

 

[Carringbush2010]

He was too far left for corporate democrats and their donors. Not the general population or even the democrat voting base.

The democrat primary process is funnily enough way less democratic than the republican primary process.

Again subject to opinion.

Certainly a lot of noise at the time that the colonel is / was too far left to be palatable for the majority of the electorate.

Socialists are certainly not popular among liberals, which the majority of the electorate still are now.