Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[CodyRose]

Maybe she’s been told she has to do her share of the work if she’s to inherit the place one day. Maybe Shannon is no longer up to doing the farm work. … who knows. I think her parents were married in 1948, so she could be getting on in years.

Also probably no bills and free childcare help

 

[CodyRose]

Maybe Mum / Jess was scared of Josie’s reaction.

We heard she was very clever scholastically, and also very quiet. Gus was also described as being very quiet. To be honest, the only one we’ve truely ‘heard’ is Josie.

I'd be all over the media in tears, begging for help to find my child.

 

[Percel]

There was a TV interview with a mate of the Dad, Joshua. They had been searching the property together, along with dozens of SES, police and army. Pretty much the biggest search ever done in SA. The bloke said he didn't think there was any way Gus was still on the property. I think he meant alive or dead. Which leads one to think if Gus didn't just wander off and could be found where he died, then the only rational explanation is foul play.

Why has Gus' mother Jess left her home with the younger son Ronnie, and never once addressed the media?

Why are they still searching, and how is Joshua a source of overall truth?

 

[Curious Clues]

Maybe DOCS recommended Jess and Ronnie leave.

IMO

I think child safety and realised it wasn’t safe for Ronnie to stay at Oak Park.

Whatever befell Gus, who’s to say it would not also take out little Ronnie?

Plus leaving and staying somewhere safe would have the added bonus of not having to worry about media fronting up at their home.

IMO

That would make sense. Duty of care for the remaining child. Maybe the property was assessed by authorities to be unsafe for children outside and inside.

 

[passball]

Where do the people around the stations bury their loved ones?
Are there private cemeteries on the properties?

 

[31550]

Why are they still searching, and how is Joshua a source of overall truth?

They are still searching because they believe he is still on the property, or that there is evidence on the property which will lead to the truth.

Joshua is not a source of overall truth (nobody is), but he is an independent witness who may be able to provide an independent account of when he last saw or spoke to Gus, and also the other residents of the station. (Presumably he was still in regular contact with his family). He may also be able to help verify the movements of Gus and these people in the days or weeks leading up to the disappearance.
In order to establish the facts of this matter, a reliable timeline needs to be constructed. None of the people involved can be considered a 'source of overall truth', unless their alibis can be confirmed by other people and are consistent with physical evidence.

If Joshua, for instance, had not seen or spoken to Gus for say, several days then police need to consider possibilities including Gus being killed or injured and/or removed from the property and/or concealed on the property up to several days before he was actually reported missing. This may shape the entire investigation.

Similarly, other contacts outside the family group need to be interviewed. Police may have done this already, but there is no public confirmation or proof that Gus was even alive and on the property on the day he was reported missing.

 

[Wallace52]

Im wondering why he was even there of all places

He was walking along the barrier highway. He killed a cop and took his police car. He then drove to Bullyaninie.

He ran into a civilian with his car on the way there and seriously injured him.

I think he went to Bullyaninie because Joy Betty had 16 guns in her house. He may have wanted to steal them, and then got caught up in committing an assault, and holding the woman hostage…. Imo

My theory is he went there to steal the guns.

Imo

 

[Wallace52]

Where do the people around the stations bury their loved ones?
Are there private cemeteries on the properties?

They go further afield to larger cemeteries to be buried. The legendary Vincent Pfeiffer, for example, who lived at Oak Park Station was buried at Pasadena, City of Mitcham, South Australia, Australia.

Vincent was Shannon’s father, and would have been Gus’ great grandfather but he died before Gus was born.

IMO

Clair Pfeiffer, Vincent’s wife was also buried in Pasadena, South Australia. She passed away in 1988.

 

[Underarrest_]

Just from a police perspective and if they are suspicious of human intervention, it would be of interest when the last time others including Dad, extended family were on the property together with the family and when they left and when any family members were last on other’s properties. In my opinion.

 

[Wallace52]

police would have interviewed the father,

I don’t see any reports of police interviewing the father.

if they are suspicious of human intervention, it would be of interest when the last time others including Dad, extended family were on the property together with the family and when they left and when any family members were last on other’s properties.

Even if the police taskforce were not suspicious of human intervention, it would still be helpful to know who was on who’s property last before 27 September.

I wonder at what point police will reveal that that actually Gus has not walked off and gotten lost? Because there’s no evidence of a 4 year old walking away from the homestead, is there?

They have no clothing, no shoes, no hat, no blood, no evidence of a struggle, no tracks….

What do they have, like 1 foot print??? My opinion only.


Where is Gus?

IMO

 

[zedx]

I'd be all over the media in tears, begging for help to find my child.

We dont know if the Police have directed the family to do this. IMO if it were thought, at this stage, that a public request was needed the Police would have directed to the family to do so and if the family felt they were unable, a friend or family member would be requested to do so on their behalf as often happens. Also the Police could have appealed to the public themselves. Personally, I feel I would be such a blubbering, hysterical mess i would have to ask a friend. I dont think I could control my emotions. The Police must have a good reason why this has not happened, yet. Instead of assuming some sinister or weird reason the family has not asked for help, we need to be asking why this has not happened? IMO I can only assume a public request is not warranted ATM is because either they still believe Gus is on the property or they know something we do not.

 

[dc3]

I don’t see any reports of police interviewing the father.

Even if the police taskforce were not suspicious of human intervention, it would still be helpful to know who was on who’s property last before 27 September.

I wonder at what point police will reveal that that actually Gus has not walked off and gotten lost? Because there’s no evidence of a 4 year old walking away from the homestead, is there?

They have no clothing, no shoes, no hat, no blood, no evidence of a struggle, no tracks….

What do they have, like 1 foot print??? My opinion only.


Where is Gus?

IMO

If it was a orchestrated there seems to be a lot of planning in time to “notify” authorities

 

[Curious Clues]

The whole absence of basic information about Gus and his family in general is giving off similar William Tyrrell (in the early months of his disappearance) vibes imo. Like the family and media have been instructed to not disclose any personal information about Gus to the public. Let's face it, we don't even know for sure how long Gus had lived at Oak Park Station or even if that was considered his place of residence.

 

[Percel]

They are still searching because they believe he is still on the property, or that there is evidence on the property which will lead to the truth.

Joshua is not a source of overall truth (nobody is), but he is an independent witness who may be able to provide an independent account of when he last saw or spoke to Gus, and also the other residents of the station. (Presumably he was still in regular contact with his family). He may also be able to help verify the movements of Gus and these people in the days or weeks leading up to the disappearance.
In order to establish the facts of this matter, a reliable timeline needs to be constructed. None of the people involved can be considered a 'source of overall truth', unless their alibis can be confirmed by other people and are consistent with physical evidence.

If Joshua, for instance, had not seen or spoken to Gus for say, several days then police need to consider possibilities including Gus being killed or injured and/or removed from the property and/or concealed on the property up to several days before he was actually reported missing. This may shape the entire investigation.

Similarly, other contacts outside the family group need to be interviewed. Police may have done this already, but there is no public confirmation or proof that Gus was even alive and on the property on the day he was reported missing.

Thanks, but the question wasn’t for you, anyway the point was missed.

 

[31550]

The Police must have a good reason why this has not happened, yet.

Police have no authority over this situation. If the family want to talk to media, they can. Police might make recommendations about this, but it's ultimately up to the individuals whether to comply or not.
All that can be assumed is that the family have a reason for not going public.

 

[31550]

Thanks, but the question wasn’t for you, anyway the point was missed.

That's what happens when you choose to be obtuse.

 

[CodyRose]

Where do the people around the stations bury their loved ones?
Are there private cemeteries on the properties?

Yes there is a grave on Oak park from long ago, not sure if permission is still obtainable these days.

 

[CodyRose]

If it was a orchestrated there seems to be a lot of planning in time to “notify” authorities

Let's hope the fourth search finds Guss, then the silent witness will be able to reveal what happened.

 

[Percel]

That's what happens when you choose to be obtuse.

Deliberately, you’re not capable or malleable to grasp it, stay black de bono

 

[Underarrest_]

Police have no authority over this situation. If the family want to talk to media, they can. Police might make recommendations about this, but it's ultimately up to the individuals whether to comply or not.
All that can be assumed is that the family have a reason for not going public.

This is true but you’d think if police /family had an idea if Gus was taken and or who by the police would request this or at least one family member would want to appeal for information. IMO.

 

[Wallace52]

If it was a orchestrated there seems to be a lot of planning in time to “notify” authorities

I’m not saying his disappearance was orchestrated….

But I’m not 100 percent sure he went missing between 5 - 5.30pm on 27th of September, 2025.

I think he was missing earlier but that’s just my gut feeling.

IMO

 

[Wallace52]

That poor lady, I hope she’s had good support.

But thankfully her assailant did the world a favour & shot himself, he’s one we no longer have to worry about !

From what I have read about J she is very accomplished in land management and taking care of Country… by all reports a very decent person who has lived an extraordinary life.

IMO

 

[Underarrest_]

Maybe Mum / Jess was scared of Josie’s reaction.

We heard she was very clever scholastically, and also very quiet. Gus was also described as being very quiet. To be honest, the only one we’ve truely ‘heard’ is Josie.

Also very important to know too and the relationship between Josie and Shannon.
This is something that might be substantiated by those closest to the family.

 

[zedx]

Police have no authority over this situation. If the family want to talk to media, they can. Police might make recommendations about this, but it's ultimately up to the individuals whether to comply or not.
All that can be assumed is that the family have a reason for not going public.

They would be really silly to go against the Police's instructions. It could cause dire consequences which we know nothing about.

 

[Wallace52]

They would be really silly to go against the Police's instructions. It could cause dire consequences which we know nothing about.

The reporters that have gone to the Oak Park homestead have given the Murray’s the chance to tell their story, to do a conference, an interview, whatever they like.

They Murray family have chosen not to.



IMO