Player Watch #6: Caleb Windsor

[danster168]

We have another wingmen Toby Sinemma coming through the ranks who is making team of the week every week at the moment playing for the Stingrays.

I feel we have over invested in wingmen and under invested in forwards. Windsor is just a victim of piss poor list management.

I do agree with this. We've got a team of flankers in Lindsay, McVee, Windsor and Langford looks like an outside player too. And we still have 0 cover for Gawn, 0 cover for May (although Turner is looking good but his body can't be trusted), and 0 key forwards now that Van Rooyen has forgotten how to play football.

I flippantly said years ago that we need to draft about 4-5 key forwards because over half of them will be busts and that's looking like the case. Even Jefferson isn't a key forward with his build and physicality.

I think petty is a defender, as is Turner and they should replace May and Lever (if not already).

 

[Daemon]

I do agree with this. We've got a team of flankers in Lindsay, McVee, Windsor and Langford looks like an outside player too. And we still have 0 cover for Gawn, 0 cover for May (although Turner is looking good but his body can't be trusted), and 0 key forwards now that Van Rooyen has forgotten how to play football.

I flippantly said years ago that we need to draft about 4-5 key forwards because over half of them will be busts and that's looking like the case. Even Jefferson isn't a key forward with his build and physicality.

I think petty is a defender, as is Turner and they should replace May and Lever (if not already).

You are kind of contradicting yourself here.

Gawns cover is that Campbell guy and Verrall.

Mays cover is Petty. Levers cover is Turner (as you said).

I think JVR and Jeffo could be serviceable if they had some decent coaching and ball delivery.

 

[I Love Lamb]

I do agree with this. We've got a team of flankers in Lindsay, McVee, Windsor and Langford looks like an outside player too. And we still have 0 cover for Gawn, 0 cover for May (although Turner is looking good but his body can't be trusted), and 0 key forwards now that Van Rooyen has forgotten how to play football.

I flippantly said years ago that we need to draft about 4-5 key forwards because over half of them will be busts and that's looking like the case. Even Jefferson isn't a key forward with his build and physicality.

I think petty is a defender, as is Turner and they should replace May and Lever (if not already).

To be fair you said we should get 6 forwards, and boy o boy 6 key forwards is what we got.

We got

1. JVR
2. Schache
3. Jefferson
4. Johnson
5. Fullerton
6. Kentfield

 

[Crusty Demon]

To be fair you said we should get 6 forwards, and boy o boy 6 key forwards is what we got.

We got

1. JVR
2. Schache
3. Jefferson
4. Johnson
5. Fullerton
6. Kentfield

Lol. Either our recruiting/drafting of KPF has been terrible or our developing has been woeful. Maybe both that list is a fn joke. Our F50 in all aspects is an absolute mess. Been saying it for years. Delivery, structure, plan, recruiting,drafting, development. Only Koz(maybe Melk) has looked dangerous in the F50 last few years and thats on pure raw talent than anything else. Its gotta be one of the worst F50's in the history of our club. Its so bad on every level.

 

[danster168]

To be fair you said we should get 6 forwards, and boy o boy 6 key forwards is what we got.

We got

1. JVR
2. Schache
3. Jefferson
4. Johnson
5. Fullerton
6. Kentfield

Schache, Fullerton and Kentfield were known scrubs on arrival so they don't count in the 6. I mean through the national draft because there's at least some hope at that point We need to recruit more and hope that 1 or 2 stick imo.

 

[SugarHealey]

Mays cover is Petty. Levers cover is Turner (as you said).

i think these days its backward.

Turners cover should be lever.

 

[SugarHealey]

Kentfield

Kentfield has taken some nice marks often... just recently... its something to lift your eyes a bit.

There is hope there yet.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Anyone else seeing the Jayden Hunt

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Jayden Hunt

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30

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188cm

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82kg

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5.3

1star

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3.3

1star

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2.0

2star

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1.7

2star

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2.3

4star

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78.7

1star

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5.3

1star

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3.3

1star

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2.0

1star

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1.7

2star

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2.3

3star

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78.7

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5.3

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3.3

2star

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2.0

2star

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1.7

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2.3

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78.7

2star

2.0 connection yet or is everyone still thinking Windsor is the next Whitfield/Rozee/NWM coming out of defence?

(Or the next Gulden/Holmes/Martin on the wing?)

We absolutely cooked the pick, bloke struggles to even get 10 disposals a match, is poor by foot, can’t defend and if he were a pick in the 40s, he wouldn’t even be getting a run in the 1s.

 

[The Dr]

Anyone else seeing the Jayden Hunt 2.0 connection yet or is everyone still thinking Windsor is the next Whitfield/Rozee/NWM coming out of defence?

(Or the next Gulden/Holmes/Martin on the wing?)

We absolutely cooked the pick, bloke struggles to even get 10 disposals a match, is poor by foot, can’t defend and if he were a pick in the 40s, he wouldn’t even be getting a run in the 1s.

Who has suggested he's the next Whitfield or NWN or Gulden?

 

[I Love Lamb]

Who has suggested he's the next Whitfield or NWN or Gulden?

Well if he isn’t, then why did we draft him? Thats the type of quality we need in those positions to contend.

 

[The Dr]

Well if he isn’t, then why did we draft him? Thats the type of quality we need in those positions to contend.

We probably drafted him because we thought he was best available.

And in judging that, it might be worth waiting more than 18 months, with his second year being played in a foreign position?

 

[TheBoss]

Windsor is very much a project at this stage, and that’s not a knock—just the reality of where he’s at in his development.

He’s got clear weapons: he runs hard, he’s clean by hand, and he’s got genuine pace. But you can also see he’s still learning when and how to use those tools. At the moment, he doesn’t consistently break lines in a way that hurts the opposition. That will come with confidence and better decision-making. He’ll need to learn to recognise when to back himself with a run-and-carry and when to pull the trigger with a kick that opens the game up. Right now, too much of his ball use is safe and sideways.

I don’t see him as an All-Australian calibre player or someone who’s going to redefine a role. He’s not that kind of talent. But that doesn’t mean he can’t be a valuable piece for us down the track. I actually think his best football will come when he eventually moves into the midfield. He’ll need to add some size and build a bigger tank first, but if he can get there physically, his pace could be a real asset bursting from stoppages. He’s the kind of player who, if developed well, could add a different dynamic to a midfield mix—someone who gets separation quickly and forces defences to scramble.

He’s not ready yet, and it’s probably going to be a couple of years before we know exactly what we’ve got. But there’s enough to work with that it’s worth the investment of time and games.

 

[The Dr]

Windsor is very much a project at this stage, and that’s not a knock—just the reality of where he’s at in his development.

He’s got clear weapons: he runs hard, he’s clean by hand, and he’s got genuine pace. But you can also see he’s still learning when and how to use those tools. At the moment, he doesn’t consistently break lines in a way that hurts the opposition. That will come with confidence and better decision-making. He’ll need to learn to recognise when to back himself with a run-and-carry and when to pull the trigger with a kick that opens the game up. Right now, too much of his ball use is safe and sideways.

I don’t see him as an All-Australian calibre player or someone who’s going to redefine a role. He’s not that kind of talent. But that doesn’t mean he can’t be a valuable piece for us down the track. I actually think his best football will come when he eventually moves into the midfield. He’ll need to add some size and build a bigger tank first, but if he can get there physically, his pace could be a real asset bursting from stoppages. He’s the kind of player who, if developed well, could add a different dynamic to a midfield mix—someone who gets separation quickly and forces defences to scramble.

He’s not ready yet, and it’s probably going to be a couple of years before we know exactly what we’ve got. But there’s enough to work with that it’s worth the investment of time and games.

That sort of nuance and balanced analysis is not welcome here, friend.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Windsor is very much a project at this stage, and that’s not a knock—just the reality of where he’s at in his development.

He’s got clear weapons: he runs hard, he’s clean by hand, and he’s got genuine pace. But you can also see he’s still learning when and how to use those tools. At the moment, he doesn’t consistently break lines in a way that hurts the opposition. That will come with confidence and better decision-making. He’ll need to learn to recognise when to back himself with a run-and-carry and when to pull the trigger with a kick that opens the game up. Right now, too much of his ball use is safe and sideways.

I don’t see him as an All-Australian calibre player or someone who’s going to redefine a role. He’s not that kind of talent. But that doesn’t mean he can’t be a valuable piece for us down the track. I actually think his best football will come when he eventually moves into the midfield. He’ll need to add some size and build a bigger tank first, but if he can get there physically, his pace could be a real asset bursting from stoppages. He’s the kind of player who, if developed well, could add a different dynamic to a midfield mix—someone who gets separation quickly and forces defences to scramble.

He’s not ready yet, and it’s probably going to be a couple of years before we know exactly what we’ve got. But there’s enough to work with that it’s worth the investment of time and games.

I disagree with him being clean by hand. He is fast, but that’s about the only string to the bow I am seeing at the moment, Jayden Hunt had that same string.

 

[danster168]

Wow, the Windsor thread has a lot of new posts. He must have played well or hurt himself Checks thread oh, just Danster being Danster and people being sucked into it.

how's he going 1 year on? He's the sub, for the 13th ranked team.

 

[Bluelegs]

There should be a new term for a young player going through a quiet patch in their second year.

Maybe we could call it the 'Season 2 Melancholy'

 

[Topkent]

There should be a new term for a young player going through a quiet patch in their second year.

Maybe we could call it the 'Season 2 Melancholy'

It'll never stick. No second season player has ever not been better than the first season

 

[Bluelegs]

It'll never stick. No second season player has ever not been better than the first season

You're right, of course. Do you think Hawthorn would trade us Josh Ward for him?

 

[Daemon]

how's he going 1 year on? He's the sub, for the 13th ranked team.

He's not having the best year, doesn't mean he is a scrub though. He's been played out of position all year, and in and out of the team like a yo-yo thanks to our useless coach.

 

[danster168]

He's not having the best year, doesn't mean he is a scrub though. He's been played out of position all year, and in and out of the team like a yo-yo thanks to our useless coach.

I agree. I never said Windsor or Langford was a scrub though. But saying a player isn't elite or won't be shouldn't deserve backlash. I was right on Windsor, we'll see on Langford.

 

[Topkent]

You're right, of course. Do you think Hawthorn would trade us Josh Ward for him?

We'll take Harry Morrison and be happy with it

 

[Lord Nev]

I agree. I never said Windsor or Langford was a scrub though. But saying a player isn't elite or won't be shouldn't deserve backlash. I was right on Windsor, we'll see on Langford.

There is no "I was right on Windsor" when it's his second year after an injury wrecked preseason and being played out of position.

Genuinely getting embarrassing some of the stuff you're rolling with.

 

[ray_purchase]

Not a defender... and apparently not a winger or midfielder either.

 

[The Dr]

"I was right on Windsor"

 

[I Love Lamb]

I have said since before we took him he was wrong pick at 7. Not saying he won’t be a decent player (yet to see it yet), but when we are crying out for KPPs we take him right before Curtin, O Sullivan and Caddy was an absolute huge mistake.

Last year he looked like Jayden Hunt

5

Jayden Hunt

Age

30

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.3

4star

MG

78.7

1star

D

5.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.3

3star

MG

78.7

1star

D

5.3

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.3

4star

MG

78.7

2star

2.0, this year he can’t even get a clean disposal despite coming on fresh as a sub in the 2nd half against a undermanned 16th ranked team.

Hope he comes good but right now looking like one of our biggest busts in recent memory in what is starting to shape out to be an absolute super draft.