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[Andonis1997]

Phoenix question VAR involvement in Payne sending off

The Wellington Phoenix believe the incorrect process was followed by officials to red card Tim Payne on Saturday afternoon.

wellingtonphoenix.com

PHOENIX QUESTION VAR INVOLVEMENT IN PAYNE SENDING OFF

The Wellington Phoenix believe the incorrect process was followed by officials to red card Tim Payne on Saturday afternoon.
The All Whites defender was sent off early in the second-half of the Phoenix’s round 14 Isuzu UTE A-League match against the Perth Glory in Palmerston North, following intervention from the video assistant referee (VAR).

Payne was initially issued a yellow card by the on-field referee for a foul on Perth forward David Williams. The VAR then intervened and after a long consultation with the referee Payne was issued with a straight red card.

It is the Wellington Phoenix’s view that the VAR should not have got involved and due process was not followed.

The International Football Association Board (IFAB) rules state:
“A video assistant referee (VAR)…may assist the referee only in the event of a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ in relation to:

a. Goal/no goal
b. Penalty/no penalty
c. Direct red card (not second yellow card/caution)”

It is the club’s contention that there was no clear and obvious error made by the referee and therefore the VAR should not have intervened.

The video evidence provided, and the time taken to review the decision support the view that there was no ‘obvious error’.

Without the intervention of the VAR the yellow card given to Tim Payne would not have been upgraded to red.

It is the Phoenix’s contention that the officials did not follow the regulations as prescribed and therefore the red card should be voided.

The Phoenix submitted an obvious error application to Football Australia, which was considered by the A-League’s independent match review panel on Monday.

After due consideration, the panel determined no obvious error was made in the issuing of the red card and denied the club’s application.

Tim Payne will serve a one match suspension, being the minimum sanction for the offence.

However it wasn’t in the match review panel’s remit to consider whether or not the VAR correctly intervened.

The club believes this is the key issue.

The Phoenix are seeking legal advice as there is no avenue to appeal Payne’s sanction.

Wellington Phoenix general manager David Dome is calling for additional funding and investment for referees.

“This needs to happen as a matter of urgency but there also needs to be a review of the disciplinary and dispute regulations that do not reflect the laws of the game,” Dome said.

“The VAR interventions often appear too arbitrary and certainly vary depending on who the officials are.

“There are regulations that officials need to follow and there needs to be consistency across the A-Leagues.

“Furthermore, the appeals process needs to be revised. Players are guilty until proved innocent and the natural law provision of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ does not seem to apply in the application of football regulations.”

 

[AJ_2000]

Golmulka is off, winner where he is going? He's a decent talent that fell down the pecking order

 

[AJ_2000]

Phoenix question VAR involvement in Payne sending off

The Wellington Phoenix believe the incorrect process was followed by officials to red card Tim Payne on Saturday afternoon.

wellingtonphoenix.com

They've got a point on the arbitrary use of var. But under the way the rules are written I don't know how they'd change the ruling

 

[AJ_2000]

Rado got the gig full time at Melbourne City. Probably gkt the extra year on the deal after the Macarthur hammering

 

[gaskin]

Jacob Burns has gone to Macarthur as an assistant.

Former Socceroo joins Bulls as assistant coach

Macarthur FC coach Mile Sterjovski has boosted his coaching ranks with the appointment of former Socceroo Jacob Burns as his assistant coach. The 44-year-old from South West Sydney returns home after spending nine years coaching and working as a director...

macarthurfc.com.au

 

[AJ_2000]

If anyone needs a Valentine's Day card for their loved one, you can use one of these beauties

 

[AJ_2000]

 

[AJ_2000]

Even the GF gets some love

 

[acm21]

 

[acm21]

 

[acm21]

 

[SM]

Yuck.

 

[AJ_2000]

Hmmm unfortunately that's the training ground. I guess 500 is comparable to the 15,000 stadium that would be built in year 3

 

[acm21]

Hmmm unfortunately that's the training ground. I guess 500 is comparable to the 15,000 stadium that would be built in year 3

It's planned to be the temporary home ground while they finally build the 15k stadium.

 

[AJ_2000]

It's planned to be the temporary home ground while they finally build the 15k stadium.

It's probably right sized as it is

 

[acm21]

It's probably right sized as it is

Hopefully for the first couple of years atleast

 

[Upstart Swan]

Hmmm unfortunately that's the training ground. I guess 500 is comparable to the 15,000 stadium that would be built in year 3

That twitter user called "Ticket" has an obsessive hatred for Western United. I don't know what we did to annoy him so much...

 

[giggler99]

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sounds like a case of oh he's worked in England give him the job. lol

 

[acm21]

 

[gaskin]

Rudan seems like the type. I wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

 

[CakeEater]

Zadkovich probably tackled one of our blokes

 

[royboy2]

Anyone know why the CFG and their 15 fans have decided not to be active support anymore

 

[giggler99]

Anyone know why the CFG and their 15 fans have decided not to be active support anymore

AJ_2000 acm21 Elmer_Judd ??

 

[AJ_2000]

AJ_2000 acm21 Elmer_Judd ??

Not specifically. Probably similar to why most fold. It just becomes too hard. Too many splinter groups. Lack of common sense. Poor sorry from the league / security.

 

[gaskin]

Apparently it is Zadkovich and Colli that had an altercation and Glory are releasing a statement at 5pm WA time.

Perth Glory plays down reports of a clash between their coach and a player

Perth Glory CEO Anthony Radich said there was nothing in the reported altercation between Ruben Zadkovich and Gioardano Colli and the club would be taking no further action

www.smh.com.au