Toast A Step In The Right Direction

[jmac70]

“The Collingwood Football Club acknowledges that today represents a day of sadness and sorrow for many of Australia’s First Nations people. Freeing the Aboriginal flag is a great example of leadership roles that our institutions can play in supporting matters that are important to our people.

“As a club, we are committed to working towards a day where all Australians can celebrate together. This will acknowledge the true story of this great country and be inclusive of all.”

 

[jmac70]

It’s time to change the date.
Be proud of our Aboriginal heritage and choose a date that is culturally safe.
#Victreaty

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

It’s time to change the date.
Be proud of our Aboriginal heritage and choose a date that is culturally safe.
#Victreaty

I'd rather just do away with the day altogether. If I worked and got a holiday, I would probably feel different.

 

[jmac70]

I'd rather just do away with the day altogether. If I worked and got a holiday, I would probably feel different.

They should just make it a day rather than a date. Such as the second Monday in February.
People can then make a long weekend of it. Good for the economy in terms of people going on holiday.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

They should just make it a day rather than a date. Such as the second Monday in February.
People can then make a long weekend of it. Good for the economy in terms of people going on holiday.

Look, if it's a holiday we need, then fair enough, go for it. But trying to please everyone by coming up with a new date to celebrate the coming together of blacks and whites and all the rest of us strikes me as 'virtue signalling'. There is understandable criticism of the celebration of invasion day but I really wonder whether most people genuinely feel a strong need to have a national feely-touchy mutual love-in day set aside on the calendar. Let's just get on with living and let the relationships between people of colour/non colour and religion take care of themselves.

 

[barrackers]

Happy Australia day!

Not going into the politics of it again, I’ve posted my views in previous years, suffice to say the arrival of the first fleet is important to acknowledge.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

My views....

Pretty sure all countries celebrate a national day.... and suggestions of doing away with it altogether just because it’s too hard to get agreement is a poor suggestion.

I haven’t found a better date suggested. 1 January for example is ludicrous. It’s already a public holiday and whilst it represents Federation, it was just a day arbitrarily plucked out of the calendar ( being the first day of the year/ century)

It’s the land of the long weekend. Why can’t we have a floating date? We have one with labour day queens birthday and Easter after all. Last Monday in January. If we aren’t wedded to a specific date because we can’t agree on one...then don’t try to manufacture one.

Maybe when we eventually secede from the commonwealth and become a republic, we can consider that date.

Or we just leave it as it is and use it as motivation to continually improve as a national and respect our first peoples in a meaningful way

 

[Black_White]

My views....

Pretty sure all countries celebrate a national day.... and suggestions of doing away with it altogether just because it’s too hard to get agreement is a poor suggestion.

I haven’t found a better date suggested. 1 January for example is ludicrous. It’s already a public holiday and whilst it represents Federation, it was just a day arbitrarily plucked out of the calendar ( being the first day of the year/ century)

It’s the land of the long weekend. Why can’t we have a floating date? We have one with labour day queens birthday and Easter after all. Last Monday in January. If we aren’t wedded to a specific date because we can’t agree on one...then don’t try to manufacture one.

Maybe when we eventually secede from the commonwealth and become a republic, we can consider that date.

Or we just leave it as it is and use it as motivation to continually improve as a national and respect our first peoples in a meaningful way

May 9th. Quite a few significant governance things occurred on this date over the years.
May 27th. The day 91% of white Australians voted in a referendum to finally count aboriginal people in the Australian census. (1967). Before then they weren’t actually people according to government.
July 30th. The very first Australia Day celebration. (1915)
19/29th April. Day Cook sighted Australia, day Cook landed in Botany Bay. Choose either.

Plenty of alternative days. Some benign, some with baggage.

edit Forget everyone’s favourite.
May 8th. (Maaate)

 

[jmac70]

My views....

Pretty sure all countries celebrate a national day.... and suggestions of doing away with it altogether just because it’s too hard to get agreement is a poor suggestion.

I haven’t found a better date suggested. 1 January for example is ludicrous. It’s already a public holiday and whilst it represents Federation, it was just a day arbitrarily plucked out of the calendar ( being the first day of the year/ century)

It’s the land of the long weekend. Why can’t we have a floating date? We have one with labour day queens birthday and Easter after all. Last Monday in January. If we aren’t wedded to a specific date because we can’t agree on one...then don’t try to manufacture one.

Maybe when we eventually secede from the commonwealth and become a republic, we can consider that date.

Or we just leave it as it is and use it as motivation to continually improve as a national and respect our first peoples in a meaningful way

Become a republic and make that the day.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Become a republic and make that the day.

Let’s become a republic on 26 January… that will piss em off!,,

agree no need to change before that happens

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

May 9th. Quite a few significant governance things occurred on this date over the years.
May 27th. The day 91% of white Australians voted in a referendum to finally count aboriginal people in the Australian census. (1967). Before then they weren’t actually people according to government.
July 30th. The very first Australia Day celebration. (1915)
19/29th April. Day Cook sighted Australia, day Cook landed in Botany Bay. Choose either.

Plenty of alternative days. Some benign, some with baggage.

edit Forget everyone’s favourite.
May 8th. (Maaate)

None really stand out as having any meaning.

i don’t think the day we decided aboriginals were human is a day to celebrate.

 

[Gymnorhina tibic]

Lot of words there, sadly this has become so divisive that day will never come.

 

[jmac70]

Lot of words there, sadly this has become so divisive that day will never come.

I think it will. Hopefully it’s the younger generation that drives the change.

 

[jimmy35]

My Rabbitohs made a nice statement on the day as well.

 

[Baird]

Always was always will be Australia day

 

[barrackers]

My Rabbitohs made a nice statement on the day as well.

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The first sentence shows the inclusion and balance that is missing from the statement of Collingwood and other many organisations. Well done rabbitohs.

 

[jmac70]

Always was always will be Australia day

Wrong on both counts.

 

[Stifler's mom]

Can this be a virtue signalling free zone?

 

[JOELY]

Seeing the picture of the boys in front of the Aboriginal flag twinged something in me that's felt missing for a long time. I think it was a bit of pride, not the usual type you have as the supporter, it was something else where I saw us actually standing for something that wasn't just "we we are the biggest club look at us". As jmac said, it's just a step in the right direction, we're aren't solving racisim here, but history is going to be very kind to these stances, and as a club we're on the front foot for once.

 

[Black_White]

None really stand out as having any meaning.

i don’t think the day we decided aboriginals were human is a day to celebrate.

Australia Day was first celebrated in 1915.
Over the years it stopped and started and every state had a different day.
1935 it was settled as 26th of Jan.
It’s interesting that even the Nationals don’t really understand what the day represents.

Photo shows the real story behind Australia Day

THERE’S been a lot of anger about the idea of changing Australia Day but even some our politicians don't understand why we celebrate January 26.

www.news.com.au

Deputy Nationals leader Bridget McKenzie was arguing today for Australia Day to stay on January 26 when she put her foot in it.

“That is when the course of our nation changed forever. When Captain Cook stepped ashore,” Senator McKenzie told Sky News on Tuesday.

“And from then on, we’ve built an incredibly successful society, best multicultural society in the world.”

Actually, Australia Day marks the arrival of the First Fleet in January 1788, which was commanded by Captain Arthur Phillip. Captain Cook had been dead for nine years at that point.

For me it’s a date that causes phycological damage to the original inhabitants of this land. So it needs to be changed.
And changing a simple date to be able to inclusively celebrate the greatest country in the world shouldn’t be that hard.
Changing a day doesn’t physically hurt anyone, doesn’t cause financial or emotional distress to anyone.
It really is simple and should be done.

 

[Baird]

Wrong on both counts.

No

 

[South of the Yarra]

Always was always will be Australia day

Not even close to being right.

 

[Black_White]

No

Yes.

 

[unplugged]

Always was always will be Australia day

Sigh

 

[Baird]

Not even close to being right.

No

Yes.

No

Sigh

Deal with it