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thehoff said:
I never said we should not feel sorry for the Horan family. My point was that everyone loses loved ones. It's part of life. I don't that was incorrect and how you can disagree with that is beyond me.
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If that's what you'd said, then I wouldn't disagree with you. But what you said, when asked why wouldn't feel sorry for someone who'd lost a loved one, was "Everyone loses a loved one eventually...do you feel sorry for 95% of the population?".
No matter now...has been clarified.
 
Woah.
I hope Gary Ablett is ok.
I have been a fan of him since I was little.
I made a scrap book up of newspaper clippings, stood in line for 3 hours to get his autograph, have videos, books, and huge pictures of him in my house.
But if he gave me drugs would I take them?
No. Because I know what they do to people.
It wasn't Gary Ablett's fault she took those drugs, she didn't have to.
I have sympathy for her parents, and they can blame him for her death if is makes them feel better.
But he didn't kill her. Don't you think he would have been charged if he did?
 
celtic_pride said:
For people who defend Ablett Snr, I wonder how they will feel if they lost a daughter/sister/family member in similiar circumstances to Alisha Horan.
I can't defend what Jimmy Buckley did, he was very lucky not to do time, and Ablett has to live with he has done for the rest of his life.
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Jimmy Buckley also has to live with what he has done as well, Ablett didn't force the drugs on her, but he didn't help her either, it would appear, I am not sure what went on only news reports.

I am not defending Ablett, though I hope he wasn't badly injured being bashed.
 
Champ39 said:
Woah.
I hope Gary Ablett is ok.
I have been a fan of him since I was little.
I made a scrap book up of newspaper clippings, stood in line for 3 hours to get his autograph, have videos, books, and huge pictures of him in my house.
But if he gave me drugs would I take them?
No. Because I know what they do to people.
It wasn't Gary Ablett's fault she took those drugs, she didn't have to.
I have sympathy for her parents, and they can blame him for her death if is makes them feel better.
But he didn't kill her. Don't you think he would have been charged if he did?
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Yeah but did you have a shrine? :D
 

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Diego said:
Beats me how this idiot didn't get a 24 hour ban and i did. :confused:
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You got a suspension (which as way too short) because of your vile and puerile perosnal abuse of other posters, which is your modus operandi where you are unable to present a serious point with a logically constructed argument.

Apart from that you are pretty harmless.
 
The Majestic said:
Let me ask this, should he have sympathy for a rapper that went into a night club and fired his gun and was then shot dead?

We haven't even heard why he was bushed, if there was a reason so if Blues_Man decides not to have sympathy for Ablett, that's his choice and opinion. Oh, and I am not saying I support that opinion, but he has his opinion, you have your's.
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theres two problems here. one is that ablett did not force feed the girl the gear. if he had, he wouldnt have been bashed coz hed be doing a minimum 10 year stretch. instead hed be needing his cast iron underpants. getting a pummeling would be the least of his worries.

secondly, the blues man has all but compared him to OJ Simpson!!!! a guy who brutally murdered two people in cold blood and walked away scot free with a big cheesy grin on his face. hardly comparible to the ablett incident. while he hasnt apologised for what occured which i think is ordinary, (even tho it wasnt entirely his fault), ablett is guilty of being a pathetic drug abuser, not murder.

there seems to be an NFL player who is involved in some kind of domestic violence or club/drug related shooting every off season these days. even if they get a flogging or shot/stabbed in retribution, which is what often happens, two wrongs do not make a right.
 
Blues_Man said:
yes especially if i had been involved in the death of a young girl ...i would deserved to be bashed ...and more
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and you've never had a big night out, where you've done something questionable?

you are a lowlife, sniping, internet tough guy. go read up on the subject before you open your ugly mug
 
FriarTuck said:
No one deserves to be bashed.

Equally not everyone is deserving of sympathy. Ablett is and always has been pathetic off the field.

I show him as much sympathy as he showed when he stepped over the girl.
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And what the FriarTuck would you know about him? Seriously, opinions are like ********s arent they
 
diablo14 said:
theres two problems here. one is that ablett did not force feed the girl the gear. if he had, he wouldnt have been bashed coz hed be doing a minimum 10 year stretch. instead hed be needing his cast iron underpants. getting a pummeling would be the least of his worries.

secondly, the blues man has all but compared him to OJ Simpson!!!! a guy who brutally murdered two people in cold blood and walked away scot free with a big cheesy grin on his face. hardly comparible to the ablett incident. while he hasnt apologised for what occured which i think is ordinary, (even tho it wasnt entirely his fault), ablett is guilty of being a pathetic drug abuser, not murder.

there seems to be an NFL player who is involved in some kind of domestic violence or club/drug related shooting every off season these days. even if they get a flogging or shot/stabbed in retribution, which is what often happens, two wrongs do not make a right.
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Finally someone who has some relevant points with a non-biased view. :thumbsu:
 
Hi thetan.
Looks like you have found your perfect bigfooty thread with which to push your barrow.

I was only being facetious of course with the Hun reference.

I read the age article you linked to. It seems 'infatuated fan' was just the unnamed reporters opinion. I couldn't see any evidence to back up this claim.

Ablett and Ms Horan, 20, an infatuated fan, are already "wasted" from a day and night-long binge of alcohol and ecstasy.
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A question - what do you make of Ablett's police statement that Horan was already well versed in the world of drugs (knew what the good e's looked like etc) before they met?

BTW - the first link in your post is broken.
 

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It's entirely conceivable that she would know about different types of ecstasy without having taken them, based on conversations with friends etc.
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Surely you are not this naive?

You have no argument from me that Ablett did the wrong thing by embarking on a drug bender. Drug taking is a dangerous (and illegal) pastime and anyone doing so needs to be aware of what can potentially happen (ie mixing up drugs and making poor judgement calls while off your face)

My only issue is with people who portray the young woman as an innocent 'infatuated fan' who had no idea of what she was doing. (Hint: it sells papers)
No one forced her to go on a massive drug and alcohol bender and she could have left at any time.

I feel terrible for the tragedy that her family must live with, but in life we have to be responsible for the paths we take.
 
As was said earlier by someone else, I too had a Gary Ablett scrapbook when I was a kid. Relatives would send me pictures from the Advertiser just so I could add them to it.
I had posters, videos, cassette tapes with songs about him, autographs, a football with his head depicted on, a little Gary Ablett bobble head doll, a number 5 Geelong jumper, and that's just to name a few things.
But if Gary Ablett wanted to go on a drug bender with me, I would have said no, because that is a choice, and other people dont make choices for you, no matter how much you idol them.
The death of a young girl was tragic, and, as was said, if her parents find solace in blaming Gary for it, fine, but supporters who are uneducated in the matter do not have a right to do so, and since this happened years ago and Gary has done nothing wrong since, things should just be let go.
 
LongBomb said:
Surely you are not this naive?

You have no argument from me that Ablett did the wrong thing by embarking on a drug bender. Drug taking is a dangerous (and illegal) pastime and anyone doing so needs to be aware of what can potentially happen (ie mixing up drugs and making poor judgement calls while off your face)

My only issue is with people who portray the young woman as an innocent 'infatuated fan' who had no idea of what she was doing. (Hint: it sells papers)
No one forced her to go on a massive drug and alcohol bender and she could have left at any time.

I feel terrible for the tragedy that her family must live with, but in life we have to be responsible for the paths we take.
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Ablett was old enough to be her father. Surely there is some sense of responsibility that goes with this. Most people who have young adult children know this. He was the one who should have had the experience and judgement to foresee the possible consequences and not put either of them in that situation. But off the football field, maturity, responsibility and good judgement were never Ablett's strongpoints.
 
thehoff said:
Finally someone who has some relevant points with a non-biased view. :thumbsu:
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You simply must be joking hoff.
Do you think that your view on the incident is not biased ?

Look through this thread and see if you can see anything that the majority of posters supporting Ablett have in common.

hint: They support Geelong.:rolleyes:

FFS, the posters here who dont like Ablett as an individual are able to see past the fact that he used to kick shyt loads of goals for Geelong and judge him on his actions outside the footy ground.

Geelong fans cant do that for some reason.
 
theGimp said:
You simply must be joking hoff.
Do you think that your view on the incident is not biased ?

Look through this thread and see if you can see anything that the majority of posters supporting Ablett have in common.

hint: They support Geelong.:rolleyes:

FFS, the posters here who dont like Ablett as an individual are able to see past the fact that he used to kick shyt loads of goals for Geelong and judge him on his actions outside the footy ground.

Geelong fans cant do that for some reason.
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Yes...we can. I've said it a number of times...we are not sticking up for him because of his footballing prowess...we are sticking up for him because as Geelong supporters, we hear alot more about Ablett than other supporters, facts and news and such, that other supporters don't hear. As a person, I don't think Ablett was very good at all, but since then he has calmed down and is trying to better his life, and good on him I say.
 
theGimp said:
You simply must be joking hoff.
Do you think that your view on the incident is not biased ?

Look through this thread and see if you can see anything that the majority of posters supporting Ablett have in common.

hint: They support Geelong.:rolleyes:

FFS, the posters here who dont like Ablett as an individual are able to see past the fact that he used to kick shyt loads of goals for Geelong and judge him on his actions outside the footy ground.

Geelong fans cant do that for some reason.
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I'm not a Geelong supporter and this thread isn't about supporting Ablett or not. Some people are looking at this with a balanced view. Drug taking in society these days has become common to a wide range of people. Age is no factor in blaming Ablett for her death. If Ablett had died would you blame Alisha for his death, would it be her responsibility for not telling him to pull up stumps and go home?

It's tragic that someone died but both parties made the choice to take drugs and both would have been aware that its a risk to do so.
 

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Junkie said:
I'm not a Geelong supporter and this thread isn't about supporting Ablett or not. Some people are looking at this with a balanced view. Drug taking in society these days has become common to a wide range of people. Age is no factor in blaming Ablett for her death. If Ablett had died would you blame Alisha for his death, would it be her responsibility for not telling him to pull up stumps and go home?

It's tragic that someone died but both parties made the choice to take drugs and both would have been aware that its a risk to do so.
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Spot on.
 
Junkie said:
I'm not a Geelong supporter and this thread isn't about supporting Ablett or not. Some people are looking at this with a balanced view. Drug taking in society these days has become common to a wide range of people. Age is no factor in blaming Ablett for her death. If Ablett had died would you blame Alisha for his death, would it be her responsibility for not telling him to pull up stumps and go home?

It's tragic that someone died but both parties made the choice to take drugs and both would have been aware that its a risk to do so.
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The simple fact that you believe that the girls age was of no consequence shows you to be lacking in credibility ...the girls age played a major role in what occurred ...you and other Ablett apologists who believe Ablett should be exonerated of any blame associated with the the tragedy should be ashamed of yourself :thumbsdown:
 
Blues_Man said:
The simple fact that you believe that the girls age was of no consequence shows you to be lacking in credibility ...the girls age played a major role in what occurred ...you and other Ablett apologists who believe Ablett should be exonerated of any blame associated with the the tragedy should be ashamed of yourself :thumbsdown:
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She was an adult, capable of making her own decisions. I don't think she was a stranger to taking drugs when taking into consideration what was reported.

You still didn't answer my question...

If Ablett was the one to die would you hold Alisha responsible?

How did the girls age play a major role in what occurred?

BTW, I am not apologising for Ablett.
 
Junkie said:
I'm not a Geelong supporter and this thread isn't about supporting Ablett or not. Some people are looking at this with a balanced view. Drug taking in society these days has become common to a wide range of people. Age is no factor in blaming Ablett for her death. If Ablett had died would you blame Alisha for his death, would it be her responsibility for not telling him to pull up stumps and go home?

It's tragic that someone died but both parties made the choice to take drugs and both would have been aware that its a risk to do so.
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Ablett was more than twice the girl's age and the issues involved were more than just drug taking. His life experience was much greater, although he obviously had not learned much in the process. Society believed Ablett should have demonstrated more personal resonsibility and self discipline in such a situation. If the woman had been closer to his age, there still would have been a scandal, but Ablett would not have been held responsible to the same extent. Just as Horan, due to her relative age and experience, would not have been blamed had the situation been reversed.
 
Champ39 said:
Woah.
I hope Gary Ablett is ok.
I have been a fan of him since I was little.
I made a scrap book up of newspaper clippings, stood in line for 3 hours to get his autograph, have videos, books, and huge pictures of him in my house.
But if he gave me drugs would I take them?
No. Because I know what they do to people.
It wasn't Gary Ablett's fault she took those drugs, she didn't have to.
I have sympathy for her parents, and they can blame him for her death if is makes them feel better.
But he didn't kill her. Don't you think he would have been charged if he did?
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Didn't get charged because he didn't give a statement.


Those that don't talk, walk. Old legal saying.:thumbsdown: :rolleyes:
 

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