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Makes no difference except for whether or not they hit him with their car. Lat's assume they were just chasing him and never touched him with themselves or their car.
Everything. The riot started because people believed he died as a result from the police chasing him.
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but what right do they have to riot, they have right to freedom of speech, the right to protest but not to riot......
so they are automatically legally and ethically wrong anyway
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Bunsen, I don't think the police are guilty just because they chased him, of course not. My assumption of guilt, (which i'll be the first to admit could be wrong), comes from all the factors I previously mentioned. An eye witness who contradicted the officer's account of events, the unliklihood of the officer's story, the fact that police brutality is a reality, and there was already a history of violence between aborigines and police in the area.
I'd love to debate all night, but gotta work tomorrow, hopefully we'll get moreof the facts soon.
I'd love to debate all night, but gotta work tomorrow, hopefully we'll get moreof the facts soon.
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I am unsure if this has been mentioned in this thread but here it is anyway.
Throughout Australia there are professional activists or agitators in the Aboriginal community. These people jump on anything to further their cause, usually at the expense of their own people. What happened in Redfern, goes on throughout Australia. These people arrive in town after a death, which has gained media exposure. They stir up the aboriginal community, fill them up with grog, hysteria and hatred, then sit back and watch the results. They do not care one iota about their own, just their cause.
Anyone thats lived in Northern Victoria, with large Aboriginal population will have some idea what I am talking about.
Throughout Australia there are professional activists or agitators in the Aboriginal community. These people jump on anything to further their cause, usually at the expense of their own people. What happened in Redfern, goes on throughout Australia. These people arrive in town after a death, which has gained media exposure. They stir up the aboriginal community, fill them up with grog, hysteria and hatred, then sit back and watch the results. They do not care one iota about their own, just their cause.
Anyone thats lived in Northern Victoria, with large Aboriginal population will have some idea what I am talking about.
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Originally posted by Kenny_01
I am sick of people accusing others of being racist over the smallest things. If I said "an aboriginal man mugged someone at the bus station", some say that is a racist commentHowever, it is perfectly alright for aboriginals to call someone a 'white boy' or whatever. Double standards definitely apply. You have to watch everything you say because everything is scrutinised incase there is a comment in there that someone might classify as racism.
Aboriginal people have had it tough for many years, no one is doubting that, but are they making any effort to make things better for themselves? They now have plenty of opportunity for an education and a decent standard of living with government benefits, and rightfully so, but I don't see things changing.
How do so many of them get involved in crime, even the ones with an education? Aboriginals that went to my school and were in my footy team mugged our own teammates. A girl I know was r*ped by a group of 4 aboriginals outside the library. It just seems most of the crime around my suburb are caused by aboriginals.
I also know some genuinely nice aboriginal people and they get treated with plenty of respect by most people. But whether anyone likes it or not, there are many many aboriginies that go out and cause trouble, so it is understandably hard for people to warm to them and treat them like anyone else; they make it impossible to do so. If the majority (say 95%) of aboriginal people behaved at a socially acceptable level, then I doubt any real problem would exist, atleast not of this magnitude.
All true.
It is a simple, unassailable fact that there is a serious problem in many aboriginal communities in urban areas. If you have trouble believing that, try taking a walk through perth's city centre after dark.
The problem is that people politicise the issue for their own ends. Its very easy to say 'those bloody <insert racial expletive here>, should all be locked up and shot..' and walk away in a haze of racist self righteousness. Its also equally easy to trot out the '..stole their land, blah blah, racism at every level of society, blah sorry day...' etc etc leftist claptrap, and leave it at that. Frankly, I get the impression that a lot of groups use aboriginal issues for their own ends without giving a **** about actually trying to fix the problems- they're just a bit of convenient political mileage, and there's hardly any point in fostering racial harmony, because if Aboriginal society was entirely integrated and not at all a problem, then the protest movement would have one less cause to attack the establishment about.
People like Noel Pearson are to be applauded- I remember hearing a talk he gave a few years ago, and just being impressed that he was the first aboriginal leader I'd ever heard who was prepared to face up to the problems and actually try and do something practical about it rather than continue to mouth the same old rhetoric.
How he got there is irrelavent. The little **** got what he had coming. Aboriginal or not.
I honestly belive that if the rioters were all blown up at the time society would be better off with out them.
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Danni.
What is the point of your post, when it seems that you or any other moderator, administrator hasnt deleted the racist comments and references to apes, rock apes etc?
Isnt it quite simple. If you dont want racist remarks, delete them and suspend posters.
But then what is the point of suspending someone when they can just re register under a different hotmail address. There lies the problem. And you know what the answer is. I dont understand why you dont do it.
Cheers
Because Green is telling it like it is. And surely one can't be banned for that. Truth Hurts. Danny_Green has the Balls to talk the truth and not hold back and the precious doo-gooders out there cant' handle it.
And that is True.
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How do you come to that conclusion.
How did he get 'what he had coming'?
Why did he deserve it, was he a murderer, or a rapist...
What did the kid do, to deserve such a tragic useless death?
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He was a criminal. And the little **** would never of amounted to anything. Saved the taxpayers hundreds of thousands by copping a much deserved early death.
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I feel sorry for you.
If the message i just recieved in my inbox is any indication, Im sure you will also recieve one very shortly.
Not really. Don't associate me with goldrush. I am not a gimmick. I would rather the little crim die now than to live on and steal a car and kill some INNOCENT people.
Teenagers on P plates with hotted up cars get stopped by police constantly for being teenagers on P plates with hotted up cars.
Does this mean they should riot too???
