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TheBrownDog said:
Please tell me that Blanket is a defender or a tagger.
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This kid is in the gold coast academy?
 
Caiphus said:
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This kid is in the gold coast academy?
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Disposal ok but lacks vision on the field. Could have something to do with his choice of headwear.
 
fitzbane Lions said:
Well hopefully Ben Keays is reading this and will pull his head in. Nothing worst than seeing kids not fulfill their potential
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A considered viewing of the Under 16 GF would result in the watcher forming the view that Keys was taken to town by the Sandgate No.5 (Hartley, Qld 16's team-mate), that the Sandgate No. 7 (Wagner, Qld 16's) was brilliant and that the standout player on the ground all day (42 possessions and 3 goals) was the Sandgate No.10 (Moseley), all 3 in the Lions Academy and all well ahead of Keys.
 
BlackGun1 said:
Know personally this kid and do not rate him, general consensus of most who play with him. Hes got talent yes but also would rather play for himself rather than the team, cannot find his own ball do not rate him one bit.
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You obviously don't know the kid.

Someone posted a website on the Drafts and Trading board under the 16's thread with a link to the top 5 stat getters from each team. He averaged something like 23 touches a game which put him only behind the division 2 medallist Callum Mills in overall disposals...

Also heard he runs a 15 beep test at age 16, hasn't missed a state team either since under 12's.

I think you have watched him at club level and I would agree that he perhaps doesn't apply himself to his fullest extent at the lower level but the building blocks are certainly there. To say that you don't rate him at all is a bit of an oafish statement considering he has proved himself at higher levels.[/quote]

A considered viewing of the Under 16 GF would result in the watcher forming the view that Keys was taken to town by the Sandgate No.5 (Hartley, Qld 16's team-mate), that the Sandgate No. 7 (Wagner, Qld 16's) was brilliant and that the standout player on the ground all day (42 possessions and 3 goals) was the Sandgate No.10 (Moseley), all 3 in the Lions Academy and all well ahead of Keys.
 

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HJBlues said:
You obviously don't know the kid.

Someone posted a website on the Drafts and Trading board under the 16's thread with a link to the top 5 stat getters from each team. He averaged something like 23 touches a game which put him only behind the division 2 medallist Callum Mills in overall disposals...

Also heard he runs a 15 beep test at age 16, hasn't missed a state team either since under 12's.

I think you have watched him at club level and I would agree that he perhaps doesn't apply himself to his fullest extent at the lower level but the building blocks are certainly there. To say that you don't rate him at all is a bit of an oafish statement considering he has proved himself at higher levels.
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A considered viewing of the Under 16 GF would result in the watcher forming the view that Keys was taken to town by the Sandgate No.5 (Hartley, Qld 16's team-mate), that the Sandgate No. 7 (Wagner, Qld 16's) was brilliant and that the standout player on the ground all day (42 possessions and 3 goals) was the Sandgate No.10 (Moseley), all 3 in the Lions Academy and all well ahead of Keys.[/quote]


Yet he got MVP for Qld and they didn't?
 
BlackGun1 said:
A considered viewing of the Under 16 GF would result in the watcher forming the view that Keys was taken to town by the Sandgate No.5 (Hartley, Qld 16's team-mate), that the Sandgate No. 7 (Wagner, Qld 16's) was brilliant and that the standout player on the ground all day (42 possessions and 3 goals) was the Sandgate No.10 (Moseley), all 3 in the Lions Academy and all well ahead of Keys.
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Yet he got MVP for Qld and they didn't?[/quote]

Club football - especially in Queensland - shouldn't be the measurement for how good a kid is, especially at 16. Stats show that he was very consistent at State level (awarded the MVP as stated). How a kid goes at that level should be the measurement, as opposed to club football.

I'm sensing you may be a Sandgate parent/supporter? o_O
 
Wouldn't exactly say 16s Queensland is the highest level. Best chance on seeing if he actually measures up will be next year if he gets a chance at neafl level.
 
Does anyone think having Leigh Matthews now on the Lions Board that it will have a more positive impact on the development of locally "grown" talent coming from the Lions Academy and giving these kids a go.
Surely QLD born / raised kids are more likely to hang around than go running back to Vic at the earliest opportunity.
 
Sticks11 said:
Does anyone think having Leigh Matthews now on the Lions Board that it will have a more positive impact on the development of locally "grown" talent coming from the Lions Academy and giving these kids a go.
Surely QLD born / raised kids are more likely to hang around than go running back to Vic at the earliest opportunity.
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I think after this off-season the Academy will be a much bigger focus for the Lions going forward. I have heard Tim Notting has already been signed up as a coach for the U18 program.
 
I have heard they are restructuring from U14 up with a view to getting more kids involved early and making it harder as they progress through U16's and U18's. Not sure of the exact structure yet but the focus is on having the best of the best on show once they are at drafting age.
 

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Speedyunit said:
didnt possum get banned?
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lions2016 said:
I guess he might have been after that incident (which I don't know the full details) with AFLQ. Didnt think of that
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TheBrownDog said:
What happened with Possum?
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From what I remember he posted something on twitter about the AFLQ being piss weak and a boys club or something along those lines. They didn't like it and stopped him from playing in a prelim and fined him $250. I don't think he has been given any other punishment though.

Anyway, I don't really think those punishments were necessary.

I think that is what they are talking about. Unless I have missed something.
 
I couldn't remember where this stuff was being discussed so stuck it here for the interim.

AFL expanding horizons but northern states a draft worry

First, the good news. Of the 40 players given their first chance in Wednesday's rookie draft, seven came from other countries.

Now, for the flip side. Of the 102 first-timers drafted this year, from the national and rookie draft pools, just eight came from the northern states - Queensland, New South Wales and the Northern Territory. It was two before the rookie draft, with only Jonathan Freeman and Jake Barrett taken by the Brisbane Lions and the Giants, who had first dibs on them.

No player was drafted from the Northern Territory this year, at all. Tasmania made up some of the slack; it usually averages a couple of draftees and had five kids taken in the national draft and another two rookies. Still, there were as many players drafted from outside Australia as those three states.

It wasn't a good result, and the AFL knew it was coming. Draft numbers have dipped in the past two years and clubs haven't loaded up on draftees like they used to before Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney came along, the two new teams helping drain the talent pool.

In time, the league hopes kids from NSW and Queensland, in particular, will pad out the numbers. It has attached development academies to the four AFL clubs in those states and this year had about 1400 kids enrolled, aged from 11 up.

In the interim, the players that are there will be placed in front of more eyes next year. NSW will play seven TAC Cup games in 2014, and Queensland six, up from four this year. The NT and Tasmania will play only four each, which is a shame, but the extra games will at least give recruiters more opportunities to assess the second division kids against decent rivals.

Six of the 30 kids in the current AIS-AFL Academy group are from Queensland and NSW, which is encouraging, although seven years ago Queensland had 11 players drafted and another eight rookied.
The best will play senior football in the NEAFL once their under-18 commitments are over in the middle of next season. ''We've been working on that for six months, knowing that this year might not be super and that we have to continually build and tweak the programs to provide better coaching, better competition, better match play,'' said AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan. ''We want to end up with something like 20 per cent of draftees coming into the AFL from those states.''
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North Queensland Cowboys sign most talented 15-year-old in Australia
MEET the most talented 15-year-old athlete in Australia, a red-head whiz-kid chased by six professional clubs across an incredible four sports.

Kalyn Ponga said no to the Brisbane Lions, Queensland Reds, Brisbane Broncos, Sydney Roosters, Melbourne Storm and even ignored a lucrative golf career.

Showing the maturity required to fulfil potential Ponga eventually chose the North Queensland Cowboys as moving to Townsville was best for his family.

A gifted fullback, the Anglican Church Grammar (Churchie) student is already being compared to former pupil Karmichael Hunt.

Ponga broke records in 2012, becoming just the second under-14 player to be chosen for Australia's under-15 league team.

He will be Churchie's First XV fullback this year and Queensland Reds scouts were desperate to keep him in union.

The Brisbane Lions nearly convinced him to commit to Aussie Rules after he starred in their under-18 academy.

Ponga was fast-tracked to the Australian Institute of Sport's Aussie Rules program in Canberra and was rated so highly senior AFL officials were involved in trying to commit him to the Sherrin.
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Disappointing outcome for the Lions? I suppose this is one area the AFL teams in NSW and QLD just can't compete with the NRL given you have to wait until you are 18 to debut in the AFL. Kid sounds like an absolute gun.
 
dlanod said:
I believe NRL under-age contracts also pay the player a certain amount per year. Hard to argue with cash in the hand.
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Like the kid said. He stayed with League as it was his dream. I guess that makes the decision for the right reasons. Like to see him do what K did though. Become an NRL superstar then have a crack at AFL. I doubt the NRL will make it easy for him to switch though. They would still cringe at the win it was for AFL for K to cross codes because it helped legitimise AFL in a lot of peoples minds who were once NRL diehards..I was one..
 
I wouldn't worry about losing him. This year looks like we are gonna pick up some gun Queenslanders for cheap through the academy. The next year looks lean but after that there's some Stella kids coming through. I reckon five years we will have Eddie crying to anyone who listens over our academy. We are definantly producing some good young footballers, time will tell if they can make the step to AFL. I for one think they can.
 

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