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Looking through that list, Qld has produced a lot of "dime a dozen" footballers, several guys who have had good careers and only 2-3 guys who are in the top echelon of players going around. It isn't exactly a productive line of high quality footballers.
 
POBT said:
Purely as a reference for any criticisms about the Academy's allowing the two Qld clubs to "hoard talent". Feel free to comment if I've missed anyone or allocated someone to the wrong Academy zone. I have deliberately left out anyone who did not end up having a relatively decent length senior career.


Best Qld players 2000-2009 draft years - by Academy zone

Brisbane

Gun

Nil

Good

Jamie Charman
David Armitage
Josh Drummond
Brendan Whitecross

Solid

Tom Williams
Daniel Pratt
Cheynee Stiller
Shaun Hampson
Rohan Bail
Joel MacDonald
Brad Miller

Gold Coast

Gun

Nick Riewoldt
Dayne Beams
Kurt Tippett

Good

David Hale
Daniel Merrett
Sam Gilbert
Jarrod Harbrow
Ben Hudson

Solid

Courtney Dempsey (from Cairns)
Andrew Raines
Luke McGuane
Brent Renouf
Ricky Petterd
Lachlan Keeffe
Jesse White
Claye Beams
Michael Osborne
Jake Spencer
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Harbrow is a gun, no risk.
 
The Flying Belgian said:
No Moseley in that list. Looks like he's definitely gone.
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Yep gone.... from what i hear has signed a 3 year Under 20's contract with the Broncos. Broncos are still letting him play his 1st XV rugby at school and he recently was selected in the Australian Rugby 7's Youth Commonwealth Games team, which he had to decline as Nudgee wouldn't release him to play.... a pretty impressive achievement though! He also has QLD and Australian Schoolboy trials and tournaments etc on this year as well. I suppose you just cant fit it all in at the elite levels...... and he's doing year 12.... Shame as I thought he had a lot of potential in AFL, he was bloody hard at the ball!
 

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POBT said:
Purely as a reference for any criticisms about the Academy's allowing the two Qld clubs to "hoard talent". Feel free to comment if I've missed anyone or allocated someone to the wrong Academy zone. I have deliberately left out anyone who did not end up having a relatively decent length senior career.


Best Qld players 2000-2009 draft years - by Academy zone

Brisbane

Gun

Nil

Good

Jamie Charman
David Armitage
Josh Drummond
Brendan Whitecross

Solid

Tom Williams
Daniel Pratt
Cheynee Stiller
Shaun Hampson
Rohan Bail
Joel MacDonald
Brad Miller

Gold Coast

Gun

Nick Riewoldt
Dayne Beams
Kurt Tippett

Good

David Hale
Daniel Merrett
Sam Gilbert
Jarrod Harbrow
Ben Hudson

Solid

Courtney Dempsey (from Cairns)
Andrew Raines
Luke McGuane
Brent Renouf
Ricky Petterd
Lachlan Keeffe
Jesse White
Claye Beams
Michael Osborne
Jake Spencer
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Obviously Thomas comes under the "druggos" category, but would you consider him good or solid? I think prior to testing positive he would have ended up a pretty handy player this year. Showed a lot last year
 
Futurefooty said:
Yep gone.... from what i hear has signed a 3 year Under 20's contract with the Broncos. Broncos are still letting him play his 1st XV rugby at school and he recently was selected in the Australian Rugby 7's Youth Commonwealth Games team, which he had to decline as Nudgee wouldn't release him to play.... a pretty impressive achievement though! He also has QLD and Australian Schoolboy trials and tournaments etc on this year as well. I suppose you just cant fit it all in at the elite levels...... and he's doing year 12.... Shame as I thought he had a lot of potential in AFL, he was bloody hard at the ball!
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the monetary benefits offerred by rugby league along with a fairly structured/guaranteed program once again wins out
 
BlackGun1 said:
Ben Keays 21 touches according to Cal twomey on Twitter in the Werribee v Nab academy game. Trailing only nick o'kearney. No mention of Hipwood.
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Keays named in the best. Eric got a goal but not named in the best. Werribee won pretty convincingly based on the scoreline.
 
WhiteLionFeva said:
Keays named in the best. Eric got a goal but not named in the best. Werribee won pretty convincingly based on the scoreline.
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From memory, he was also named in the bests once or twice in NEAFL games as an underaged top-up last year. It's encouraging that he seems to cope pretty well with mature opponents.
 
jjami15 said:
Did Hipwood play? Two academy boys would be good. Does he play down back?
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Hipwood played. Started very rusty but came into the game in second half. Took some good contested marks & missed 2 set shots that he should have slotted through. Finished with 1 goal.
 
Kevvo said:
From memory, he was also named in the bests once or twice in NEAFL games as an underaged top-up last year. It's encouraging that he seems to cope pretty well with mature opponents.
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Keays played a good game. Won contested ball often and made good decisions with the ball when he had it. Werribee much bigger bodies and their mids ran hard all day in both attack & defence. Our boys struggled a little with the work rate needed to run with them.
 

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Quigley said:
That is great to hear on Keays. The two things I thought he needed to work on when I saw him last year was his clearance work and his hurt factor on his disposals. Great to hear that he is moving in the right direction.
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I agree, he is very efficient percentage wise but alot of his touches are those little chip kicks or handballs, sort of like Rocky
 
BlackGun1 said:
Good to see Hipwood got a mention, although I heard he struggled in large parts of the game, what did you observe?
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He had a very quiet 1st half (but so did a few of em!) Second half he came into the game. Took 2-3 good contested marks and should have kicked 2 set shots that would normally have been easy. First time any of these boys played a game together so overall the result was a reflection of that & playing men instead of boys. Great experience for them.
 
Not sure if right thread, but very early draft rankings from Brett Anderson

http://www.sen.com.au/news/04-15/first-look-at-the-2015-afl-draft-big-board

"18 Ben Keays

183cm | 78kg | Morningside
One of Queensland’s stars in the nationals as a 17-year-old last year averaging 23 possessions and kicking seven goals. A Brisbane academy player who played 10 NEAFL matches in 2014 averaging 19 possessions."
 

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Surly Boy said:
Not sure if right thread, but very early draft rankings from Brett Anderson

http://www.sen.com.au/news/04-15/first-look-at-the-2015-afl-draft-big-board

"18 Ben Keays

183cm | 78kg | Morningside
One of Queensland’s stars in the nationals as a 17-year-old last year averaging 23 possessions and kicking seven goals. A Brisbane academy player who played 10 NEAFL matches in 2014 averaging 19 possessions."
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And from Jourdon via Bound For Glory twitter:

"Very similar to Dustin Martin in his size, ability and skill set. Definitely a first rounder". "He's a great kick, AFL body, strong mark and academy".
 
BlackGun1 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Good quarters from Ben Keays (12 disposals/1 goal) &amp; Jacob Hopper (13 disp/3 clearances) has Academy trailing by just 5 points at 1/2 time.</p>&mdash; Callum Twomey (@AFL_CalTwomey) <a href="
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Hipwood has kicked 2 as well apparently!
 
Quigley said:
That is great to hear on Keays. The two things I thought he needed to work on when I saw him last year was his clearance work and his hurt factor on his disposals. Great to hear that he is moving in the right direction.
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Hi Quigley I am a long time lurker on this site I mainly use it to look at draft boards etc, only recently discovered and been looking at the team board which had this thread pop up. I have noticed you to be very knowledgeable on this sort of thing and I have a question for you. How does Hipwood compare to lets say Hammleman in play style, strengths/weaknesses etc. And how do you rate him? I saw last year that a few guys had Hammelman very high only for him to fall considerably. Just want to hear your opinion on him. Thanks a bunch
 

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