Play Nice Adam Goodes

[Lost_Deputy]

Instead, racists want aboriginals excused for what other races would be condemned for.

What the hell?

 

[tigerninja]

That doesn't show anything. At no point did he throw his arm forward.

How is it any different to raising your fist at someone?

 

[telsor]

That doesn't show anything. At no point did he throw his arm forward.

Why do you keep asking me to double-check your moronic comparison? You compared an indigenous dance to a white power salute and a rifle shot against people who'd been the target of long-term violence. It was stupid. Let it go.

Because White Power movements have a long and violent history attempting to subjugate and oppress minorities. Firing a rifle aimed directly against indigenous Australians from a white person obviously has its own obvious ties, whereas what Goodes did is indigenous dance from an u16 football team. 4

You can't seriously believe what you're posting.

So no white person has died from an aboriginal throwing a spear?

It was a clearly hostile action and is only being excused because of the race of the person who did it.

What do you call it when one race can do something others can't?

 

[Glenn_]

You're being naive, didn't need to throw his arm forward at all! Enough action was shown to pass a message.

Enough action show him holding the imaginary spear.

 

[clogged]

I'm saying they're both gestures promoting one race.

If one is racist, why isn't the other?

If one would cause outrage, why shouldn't the other?

Probably because neo-Nazis believe in the extermination of all other races.

 

[The King!]

Some would call him racist as I have, some would call him bigoted.
Perhaps for accuracy the term Racial Bigot may be more accurate.

1. Racist -a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
   "I had a fear of being called a racist"
   synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist;

1. Bigotry is a state of mind where a person obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. Some examples include personal beliefs, race, religion, national origin, gender, disability, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, or other group characteristics.

Ok which part fits either of those definitions you just posted the meanings

 

[GoodesFella]

Laugh all you like but the crowd was provoked by it and a Carlton supporter was ejected as a result.

It was much more than a dance too, as Goodes himself said it was a war cry so it was aggressive in nature and designed to provoke a response.

It was within the theatre of sport. Of course it was directed at the carlton fans, they are the enemy in the context of the game. And the game is sometimes portrayed as a war between two tribes by the AFL media.

 

[WideOpenRoad]

Some people in this thread are going to be pretty ashamed of their opinions in 5 or 10 years time. I bet people came came up with all sorts of reasons why Nicky Winmar should keep his politics off the field as well.

 

[Kummerspeck]

So no white person has died from an aboriginal throwing a spear?

It was a clearly hostile action and is only being excused because of the race of the person who did it.

What do you call it when one race can do something others can't?

You're comparing the white power movement to an indigenous dance.

Just to drive it home, YOU ARE COMPARING THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT TO AN INDIGENOUS DANCE. How did it ever occur to you that this was a smart comparison to make?

 

[midorigreenwood]

Its just a bloody dance

Ape is just a bloody word.

Or maybe we should judge words and actions in their context?

 

[Jack Bradley]

Apparently you cant think someone who is of colour is a tosser - lol this is the world we live in.

 

[GoodesFella]

So no white person has died from an aboriginal throwing a spear?

It was a clearly hostile action and is only being excused because of the race of the person who did it.

What do you call it when one race can do something others can't?

Are you really trying to find holes to justify your clouded and racist views. I am going t call you out for what you are, an uneducated BIGOT.

Why are you so offended?

wow!

I am willing to bet you are a middle aged white man, aporx 45 - 55 years old.

 

[Little Big John]

Politics and sport have never mixed well, and they never will.

I thought Ali and what Carlos, Smith and Norman did in '68 was powerful stuff.

You didn't (srs cat)?

 

[The King!]

So no white person has died from an aboriginal throwing a spear?

It was a clearly hostile action and is only being excused because of the race of the person who did it.

What do you call it when one race can do something others can't?

Flip it round though, do we condemn other celebrations that arent tribal

Micky o roared in the fat eagles guy face... Iirc people loved it
Tredrea did his ear thing to the crowd

Seen plenty of celebrations that were stiring up the crowd by players without the condemnation

The miming of the spear or what the dance meant is just bs who cares

 

[Lost_Deputy]

Apparently you cant think someone who is of colour is a tosser - lol this is the world we live in.

Seriously? 70 pages in and that is your contribution?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Australia has a long, long, long, long, long (long) way to go before we even deal with this issue.

It's mostly not even malice, it's just jaw dropping levels of ignorance.

I don't blame people who don't get it, they're not stupid, but it's hard to know what you haven't had explained. Impossible really.

We just won't confront it and take it on.

 

[clogged]

This was back in 2002

He used to rub heaps of people up the wrong way

That's pretty scant evidence. I don't recall him ever being booed, except maybe by Brisbane fans.

 

[Jack Bradley]

Seriously? 70 pages in and that is your contribution?

Lol couldnt be bothered reading 70 pages of this drivel - i would kill less brain cells smashing my head against a wall for 30 minutes.

 

[drummond2fevola]

Some people in this thread are going to be pretty ashamed of their opinions in 5 or 10 years time. I bet people came came up with all sorts of reasons why Nicky Winmar should keep his politics off the field as well.

I doubt it. Inherited racism isn't going to magically disappear in '5 or 10 years'.

 

[The King!]

Ape is just a bloody word.

Or maybe we should judge words and actions in their context?

Dont disagree But i am not an aboriginal and i do not know what it means to them

This is the society we live in though


People carrying on like a pretend spear and a dance upsets them are pretty pathetic

But people who wAnt to call others racist for thinking goodes is a w***er are also off the ball

The media just milk all this crap and get everyone riled up though

 

[GoodesFella]

You're comparing the white power movement to an indigenous dance.

Just to drive it home, YOU ARE COMPARING THE WHITE POWER MOVEMENT TO AN INDIGENOUS DANCE. How did it ever occur to you that this was a smart comparison to make?

And then he is trying to be smart about it when all he has done is confirmed his ignorant way of thinking.

 

[Lost_Deputy]

Just a heads up with the spear thing. Raising the arm like that is in heaps of IA dances. I've never seen one thrown but putting the arm up like that is pretty common.

As you were.

 

[Plugger35]

It was within the theatre of sport. Of course it was directed at the carlton fans, they are the enemy in the context of the game. And the game is sometimes portrayed as a war between two tribes by the AFL media.

That's why it should be directed at the Carlton players as they are the enemy in the context of the game, not the supporters sitting in the grandstand.

The All Blacks direct their haka at the opposition players before the game, they don't direct it at the opposition supporters who have probably had a skinful and are likely to get riled up and abuse them.

 

[Sleutheren]

When Tredrea bowed to the crowd, he was ridiculed.

The end.

 

[Lost_Deputy]

Lol couldnt be bothered reading 70 pages of this drivel - i would kill less brain cells smashing my head against a wall for 30 minutes.

Off you go then