List Mgmt. Adelaide Crows 2021 List Management thread

[Sanders]

That’s fair. Was just trying to determine if you had any conviction in your beliefs but I was being a little silly here

Yawn

 

[119others]

Yawn

Haha, you actually stole that retort from me many years ago. You could say it was part of my comedic Crowmosome

 

[Soggy2112]

True, but if they think JHF is the best player then they should pick him.

I don’t think so, clubs take the piss with academy and father son selections at times, completely compromising a rebuilding club’s strong draft hand. If you’ve got the number one pick you should absolutely make the other club pay as much as possible for their academy/father son pick like we did last year.

North might rate JHF as the best player anyway but the fact is they have the number one pick but still don’t have the chance to choose, so **** it, make Collingwood pay as much as possible.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I think if a club trades down their picks to the degree that matching the no 1 pick is an absolute no brainer (gaming the system) then the team with the no 1 pick.has an absolute obligation to select him to make them pay up (slightly balancing the system).

They should decide based on whether the matching club will 100% match not on where they rank the player (unless the player they are actually picking desperately wants to be no 1, as for example Patton apparently did).

 

[2Fabulous]

If crows get Dawson by giving dogs picks 23,37 and 44. What player will we draft in the 60s with our 2nd pick, oloughlin or Dudley?

 

[Dudersaurus]

I think if a club trades down their picks to the degree that matching the no 1 pick is an absolute no brainer (gaming the system) then the team with the no 1 pick.has an absolute obligation to select him to make them pay up (slightly balancing the system).

They should decide based on whether the matching club will 100% match not on where they rank the player (unless the player they are actually picking desperately wants to be no 1, as for example Patton apparently did).

Although for the trolols it isn't a bad scenario to pick JHF at one, then spend eternity telling Collingwood they could have picked Callaghan (or whomever) and still picked Daicos FS.

 

[jackster83]

If crows get Dawson by giving dogs picks 23,37 and 44. What player will we draft in the 60s with our 2nd pick, oloughlin or Dudley?

Reid should be sacked if he does that trade. Pointwise, that's giving up points worthy of pick 7 in exchange for 17.

 

[Soggy2112]

If crows get Dawson by giving dogs picks 23,37 and 44. What player will we draft in the 60s with our 2nd pick, oloughlin or Dudley?

It will be one of 37 or 44 not both if that trade gets done.

 

[Mutineer]

If crows get Dawson by giving dogs picks 23,37 and 44. What player will we draft in the 60s with our 2nd pick, oloughlin or Dudley?

Neither

And an uncontracted Dawson as posted above isn't worth a picks to a value of pick 7

 

[Bearded Clam]

Why dont we give the dogs 23, 44 and the two picks we have in the 60’s that we wont even use?.. and a wink that if darcy is still on the boaed come our pick we wont pick him..

how many points does that add up to?

 

[Mutineer]

Why dont we give the dogs 23, 44 and the two picks we have in the 60’s that we wont even use?.. and a wink that if darcy is still on the boaed come our pick we wont pick him..

how many points does that add up to?

Pick 10 bugger that

 

[WeedsMullet84]

If crows get Dawson by giving dogs picks 23,37 and 44. What player will we draft in the 60s with our 2nd pick, oloughlin or Dudley?

I personally hope we give up our 2022 2nd and our early 3rd this year.

I like our Pick 23 this year and hope it can be avoided through negotiations, if possible.

 

[hey shorty]

Pick 10 bugger that

And taking out the picks in the 60s ??

 

[Scorpus]

In the end I think to get pick 17 we'll have to outbid Richmond, as opposed to offering a certain pick's worth of value

Could be expensive as Richmond have a lot of 25+ picks

 

[Mutineer]

And taking out the picks in the 60s ??

Pick 14

 

[Bearded Clam]

And taking out the picks in the 60s ??

Thats what I was thinking… if we arent gonna use them.. why care?

 

[hey shorty]

Pick 14

That's almost it IMO

 

[Scorpus]

Here are some examples:

Richmond: 38, 42, 47 = 1176 points
Adelaide: 23, 44 = 1177 points

Richmond: 28, 42, 47 = 1388 points
Adelaide: 23, 37, 62 = 1421 points

Pick 17 = 1025 points

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Pick 10 bugger that

ignore the point value from our end, we would never get that upgrade without the other team needing points. It’s a good deal for us.

 

[Crow till I die]

Here are some examples:

Richmond: 38, 42, 47 = 1176 points
Adelaide: 23, 44 = 1177 points

Richmond: 28, 42, 47 = 1388 points
Adelaide: 23, 37, 62 = 1421 points

Pick 17 = 1025 points

I think Richmond might just do picks 26 & 28 to get pick 17 - they then have 7, 15 & 17 - not a bad hand at all to hit this draft with. Picks 38, 42 and 47 could be then shuffled to next year if they can find clubs keen

 

[WeedsMullet84]

In the end I think to get pick 17 we'll have to outbid Richmond, as opposed to offering a certain pick's worth of value

Could be expensive as Richmond have a lot of 25+ picks

Trading of draft picks alone can be done all the way up until Draft night in November.

Trading of players with Picks expires on the 13/10/21.

We don't need to have done any deals with other clubs to get the Dawson trade done.

 

[jackster83]

Here are some examples:

Richmond: 38, 42, 47 = 1176 points
Adelaide: 23, 44 = 1177 points

Richmond: 28, 42, 47 = 1388 points
Adelaide: 23, 37, 62 = 1421 points

Pick 17 = 1025 points

Geelong have a bunch of picks around that mark too. I could see them going after Port's first rounder.

 

[texanmike]

who is really excited to see milera up and running again? hope we see him round 1 next year, watched back some of his highlights, so classy.

 

[Danger in Texas]

ignore the point value from our end, we would never get that upgrade without the other team needing points. It’s a good deal for us.

I think some find it hard to separate point value from actual pick value, at times

What is essentially 23 and 44 for 17 is very solid overall

 

[Mutineer]

Thats what I was thinking… if we arent gonna use them.. why care?

But we don't know that, there's something going on re list spots or we would have at least given O'Connor a 1 year deal already?