There is no payout for stress claims in this state.
News Adelaide Crows Camp Allegations and Rumors
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There is no payout for stress claims in this state.
20 complainants by $100k each is a payout in the million$. And it wouldn't be too hard in 3-4 years to get a few signatures to a group action and force the club to settle. Don't forget that it's not to what extent the players feel that they were damaged, it's what the lawyers think they can extricate from the club. And this is a club that doesn't like to have negative press in the public domain. I have my own experience with the AFC CFO paying our invoice for the F&B service provided by the Alice Springs Golf Club prior to the Melbourne debacle. This is a weak club that will absolutely mortgage the future performance of the club to protect the existing board/management group. Tippett cough Trigg cough Chapman cough.
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We’d have insurance for that
It's a failure of duty under the act. There is no need to identify what "let them loose" means. That was your question and I provided one of the sections that we've potentially breached. You can run as many hypothetical physical drills as you like, it won't change it. Answer this hypothetical. If we trained in 40 degree celcius heat for 3 hours without access to water to improve player's physical resilience and a player or 2 succumbed and died, would that pinpoint a breach in your mind?
At least you've improved your skills.
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Of course it would. Because you’ve specified what happened and the affect it had on the player.
You have to specify what the crows actually did that was a failure of their duty under the act. It’s kind of important. You can get away with generalized gossip when you write a tabloid story but in a court you need to do with cold specifics and facts.
Exactly. And reality is that between our club and our insurers, there's money available to make this all go away. But we can't admit any form of liability without having our insurance company up and leave us. So, we're in no man's land right now. There's ex players who have legal advice that with certain coaching they'll have a claim and it will bear fruit. Especially when it's against an organisation that has no record of standing up for itself whatsoever. So, nothing will materially change over the next few years whilst most players are still in the system. They won't want to rock the boat especially considering that they are employees of the AFL as a whole.
We won't know what this will cost until the vast majority of these players have transitioned to retirement and decide or not to grab an extra payout by way of a claim against the AFC for mental anguish and subsequent loss of earnings and life happiness. The SafeWork SA is all bullshit, it won't benefit the players in a financial sense, it will only penalise and correct practices of the employer. SafeWork SA are doing what all safety establishments do, and that is exactly nothing of importance. But, trust me, the civil case behind breach of contract or limiting future earnings by way of mental anguish is real. And it's something that our club will eventually cough up for to some extent.
Would it? How about you pinpoint the part of the legislation that specifically deals with an employer causing an employee to lose their life due to that failure. I eagerly await your learned response on this.
For your reference, here is link to the act and the regulations, so I've done most of the job for you.
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19(1)(a)Would it? How about you pinpoint the part of the legislation that specifically deals with an employer causing an employee to lose their life due to that failure. I eagerly await your learned response on this.
For your reference, here is link to the act and the regulations, so I've done most of the job for you.
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www.legislation.sa.gov.au
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That’ll be $2000 thanks
If it happens will be a sealed investigation as the biggest issue will be the psychological trauma instigated by an employer. Mental health privacy.
All we will know is if the club and AFL are negligent.
We won't get any details.
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But it will need to be discussed even if in private.
And it will be up to JJ, Mcgovern etc to prove it was the camp that caused the loss of earnings. Not any other factor. Which will all have to play out as well.
Won’t be pleasant. Players have more to lose than many think.
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Just who are these unhappy players? Jenkins, Betts, McGovern and Jacobs.
And how does Collective Minds not be held to account as well?
Seriously, this is a non-story.
Your banking career provides a rolled gold legal opinion?
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No but I have been in a witness box and cross examined for 5 hours.
Rightio, did not realise that. That must make you some expert on everyting.
I’m liking your work mate, but no need to go down this path.
Sorry mate, bankers s**t me. Experts in everything.
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I have been told gov left because he was fine to go for the GF and he wasnt selected + hated pyke
Well aren't you the #1 expert. My wife was involved in the court system for many years. I just asked her her opinion and she said there is NO case to answer purely on the basis it was held in Queensland and not SA. In other words there is no juristriction for any case to be levelled against the Crows. Marshall, the Premier came out and said this last week. These journos need clickbait, pure and simple as that.
Collective Minds will be joined in the action.
all of those players have publicly dismissed the camp as being the reason they left. Even Keath dismissed it.
Edit - McGovern hasn't, but his half wit manager has done most of the talking for him.
Some on here say there were really bad parts that only the leadership group were exposed to, but they've all talked it up and are still here FFS.
The worst we got was CEY and that was pretty nothing.
I think there are people of this board desperate for something to come out so they can feel vindicated or at least less silly for falling for the whole thing.
If I am an electrician working for a firm based in SA but doing work in Victoria and there is an accident in the workplace.
Safework SA won't investigate?
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Correct. The Victorian Safeworking rules apply. They would have to investigate not SA. It falls under the states having their own accident juristiction.
I would have thought it’s up to the governing body where you are working.
In events, when I work in Vic, they are the ones who audit, when in SA its safework SA.
