List Mgmt. AFC - 2014 Drafting and Trading

[TexFactor]

Well thats what Im getting at, you'd bloody hope so. People on here seem to have a short memory and only remember his recent games as a forward, where as his best work by a country mile is down back.

If freo end up snagging his signature I will be asking questions..

ive heard nothing but glowing reports of him to be honest. apparently his disposal/decision making is a bit iffy tho. cant say ive watched him play that much. I hope we asked the question too. One can only assume it was a pretty quick and firm no.
In saying that, I thought hartigan was really good in the games he played for us even tho that doesn't seem to be the most popular opinion. disposal/decision making not being his best asset either

 

[Draft Bored]

I'm staggered if we really are into Cameron there hasn't been a story since the channel 9 piece

Same. I love it that it's not though.

I actually hated being the favorite for Polec so far out from trade season. Even Rooch had him going to the crows, then to port, then staying at Brisbane...

I'd be quite happy for the media to catch on just as the papers are lodged.

 

[Draft Bored]

Dk head - Roochi is too much of a narcissist to not break the story.

Rooch is too busy arguing with 14 year old crows fans on twitter to break a story.

 

[MRB37]

Rooch is too busy arguing with 14 year old crows fans on twitter to break a story.

I get the feeling he may be going very quiet on Twitter sooner rather than later.

 

[spenze]

They're saying it could take years in court to prove that breach.

Indeed it could. Of course when the lawyers bill comes in for this effort in the high court, the Bombers will re evaluate whether it is worth it in the long run.

 

[spenze]

Danger has been better for longer, but this season fyfe had better year not a much better year, danger was still first in contested possesion, third in clearances. Let's Say danger kicked more accurately 72 efficiency instead of 62 and 32-8 instead of 18-22 all of a sudden he is the brownlow favourite.

Maybe but he didn't. They are both very good players but Fyfe had the better year

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

When have you ever seen Fyfe burn a player with sheer pace, or take the ball out of the ruck, break from the contest and slot it from 50? Fyfe is a gun no doubt, but he's not Patrick Dangerfield by any means.

Both are gun players of the afl - just different qualities.

Would happily have fyfe in our team.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Rooch is too busy arguing with 14 year old crows fans on twitter to break a story.

Alex is on Twitter too

 

[billy fragos]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-15/the-afl-player-ratings-all-australian-team

Hehe we have 5 all Australians in the squad of 22 based off numbers, including Dangerfield

 

[1990crow]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-15/the-afl-player-ratings-all-australian-team

Hehe we have 5 all Australians in the squad of 22 based off numbers, including Dangerfield

Shows how bad the second half of our 22 was if anything.

 

[NikkiNoo]

They're saying it could take years in court to prove that breach.

Who is saying that? Essendon? They don't want to actually reveal that they can't say for sure what the players were given or not given. Hence their current court case. If you can't say for sure what the players were given, that is a breach of their duty of care to that player.

 

[Sanders]

Who is saying that? Essendon? They don't want to actually reveal that they can't say for sure what the players were given or not given. Hence their current court case. If you can't say for sure what the players were given, that is a breach of their duty of care to that player.

Its being reported in the press and over radio etc that this can only be determined in court. The AFLPA acknowledge this.

Ryder & co. Will be trying to appeal to Essendon's good judgement, because Ryder's career will be over by the time the courts have weighed in, appeals heard etc. And it probably needs to wait for the ASADA shenanigans to be resolved too

You can't just "declare" you think a breach has happened and that what you think is the appropriate remedy should stand. Doesn't work like that and a due process must happen

Essendon's view is they've done nothing wrong, and no formal charges have been proven.

 

[crowsup]

Who is saying that? Essendon? They don't want to actually reveal that they can't say for sure what the players were given or not given. Hence their current court case. If you can't say for sure what the players were given, that is a breach of their duty of care to that player.

I believe that they know exactly what each player was given. They just don't want to tell and they destroyed all evidence because it would incriminate them more.
There is no way they would inject different stuff and or quantity, into different players, without being able to keep track of the results.

Do you really believe that the phone call the night before the investigation, was just a courtesy call?

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Its being reported in the press and over radio etc that this can only be determined in court. The AFLPA acknowledge this.

Ryder & co. Will be trying to appeal to Essendon's good judgement, because Ryder's career will be over by the time the courts have weighed in, appeals heard etc. And it probably needs to wait for the ASADA shenanigans to be resolved too

You can't just "declare" you think a breach has happened and that what you think is the appropriate remedy should stand. Doesn't work like that and a due process must happen

Essendon's view is they've done nothing wrong, and no formal charges have been proven.

I don't know, courts can get things done pretty quickly when it's absolutely necessary.

 

[Sanders]

Indeed it could. Of course when the lawyers bill comes in for this effort in the high court, the Bombers will re evaluate whether it is worth it in the long run.

Its Ryder who will need to bring the court action, and the onus will be on him.

He'll need a deep pocketed sponsor

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Its Ryder who will need to bring the court action, and the onus will be on him.

He'll need a deep pocketed sponsor

Or a player manager of several essendon players...

 

[Mattrox]

On top of that if infraction notices are handed out and penalties given, it would be stupid for Essendon to fight Ryder..... They oversaw and approved of the regime that caused the infractions. That is a clear breach of duty of care. The AFLPA would weigh in heavily and it would damage Essendon more than letting Ryder go..

 

[Sanders]

I don't know, courts can get things done pretty quickly when it's absolutely necessary.

Not really no.

 

[1990crow]

"It's essendons view.." Anytime I hear those words I turn off. No one cares what essendon thinks, it's clear they are guilty and are trying to get off via technicalities.

 

[Sanders]

Or a player manager of several essendon players...

Yeah... I think they might cover the first weeks bills

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Its being reported in the press and over radio etc that this can only be determined in court. The AFLPA acknowledge this.

Ryder & co. Will be trying to appeal to Essendon's good judgement, because Ryder's career will be over by the time the courts have weighed in, appeals heard etc. And it probably needs to wait for the ASADA shenanigans to be resolved too

You can't just "declare" you think a breach has happened and that what you think is the appropriate remedy should stand. Doesn't work like that and a due process must happen

Essendon's view is they've done nothing wrong, and no formal charges have been proven.

Essendon are delusional if they really think they have done nothing wrong - equivalent of triggy denying he did anything wrong whilst accepting a guilty plea.

This could have all been ended if dons supplied evidence of the supplements taken. The fact they are refusing to do so can only mean 1 thing...

 

[Sanders]

"It's essendons view.." Anytime I hear those words I turn off. No one cares what essendon thinks, it's clear they are guilty and are trying to get off via technicalities.

But what you or I think counts for **** all

 

[feenix67]

Its being reported in the press and over radio etc that this can only be determined in court. The AFLPA acknowledge this.

Ryder & co. Will be trying to appeal to Essendon's good judgement, because Ryder's career will be over by the time the courts have weighed in, appeals heard etc. And it probably needs to wait for the ASADA shenanigans to be resolved too

You can't just "declare" you think a breach has happened and that what you think is the appropriate remedy should stand. Doesn't work like that and a due process must happen

Essendon's view is they've done nothing wrong, and no formal charges have been proven.

The only thing that changes that is if Worksafe Victoria deem it an unfit workplace

 

[Mattrox]

The AFLPA would pick up the tab. It's what the PA is for....... union membership gives you access to lawyers when your employer breaches your rights.

 

[1990crow]

But what you or I think counts for **** all

Not really. The reputation of the code (essendon getting off via them getting their fair punishment) will influence the future prosperity of the afl. Do you think parents would be happy sending kids off to play AFL knowing that it has been deemed taking performance enhancing drugs is ok?