Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2023

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[Nicholas61]

Picking a KPD because he is the best available option at our selection is insane to me.

Am I wrong?

If purely KPD at our top pick agree. If KPD who "we believe will eventually be able to go into the midfield" also insane. If KPD who has shown genuine sustained form in other positions and has an element of freak then I am fine with that.

 

[doug85]

Picking a KPD because he is the best available option at our selection is insane to me.

Am I wrong?

I think so. Reid is a low chance of making it IMO. I don’t think we’ll be overstocked by taking O’Sullivan.

 

[Milanista28]

If purely KPD at our top pick agree. If KPD who "we believe will eventually be able to go into the midfield" also insane. If KPD who has shown genuine sustained form in other positions and has an element of freak then I am fine with that.

If we think O'Sullivan, Reid or Hayes can become a top forward then I'd happily take O'Sullivan, I'm not sure that's the case for any of them, but I don't know enough in regards to Conor.

 

[Milanista28]

I think so. Reid is a low chance of making it IMO. I don’t think we’ll be overstocked by taking O’Sullivan.

All I know is we keep neglecting our forward line by taking KPD at our 1st pick and 2nd picks.

 

[doug85]

All I know is we keep neglecting our forward line by taking KPD at our 1st pick and 2nd picks.

Ok, which forward is available?

I’d take Caddy in a second if he was available. But I’m assuming he won’t be.

 

[Milanista28]

Ok, which forward is available?

I’d take Caddy in a second if he was available. But I’m assuming he won’t be.

Trade back? We always think we need to take the player available at our pick even if he doesn't suit us, that's a horrendous way to build a list.

Now I'm not saying O'Sullivan or Murphy are the wrong guys to take, I don't know they could end up generational, I just think picking best available shouldn't be our default position anymore, it's been that for way too long.

 

[FlyingV]

I have massive reservations taking another KPD, I get the argument of ‘best available’ that comes up every year: but ffs Hayes, Reid, Cox, OSullivan after bringing in McKay on big $$ for 5 years… seems silly (not to mention Weideman and Baldwin). Especially after my eyeballs have just seen us get run totally ragged by Collingwood and GWS who prioritise talented hard running smalls all over the ground.

And before people say ‘Cox isn’t a KPP’ he may not be, but if we are going to develop the kid he needs a chance to fit his 200cm lanky bod in our backline somehow.

I want to see us bring in an aggressive, hard running mid or two that are at the top of the 2km time trial and help us turn the needle in regards to running out 4th quarters.

 

[doug85]

Trade back? We always think we need to take the player available at our pick even if he doesn't suit us, that's a horrendous way to build a list.

Now I'm not saying O'Sullivan or Murphy are the wrong guys to take, I don't know they could end up generational, I just think picking best available shouldn't be our default position anymore, it's been that for way too long.

I’d prefer best available and trade up our second rounders to get Reid

 

[Lore]

'lightly built and framed' is what has really piqued my interest here.

They say “when”, I say “if”…

 

[faible]

I have massive reservations taking another KPD, I get the argument of ‘best available’ that comes up every year: but ffs Hayes, Reid, Cox, OSullivan after bringing in McKay on big $$ for 5 years… seems silly (not to mention Weideman and Baldwin). Especially after my eyeballs have just seen us get run totally ragged by Collingwood and GWS who prioritise talented hard running smalls all over the ground.

And before people say ‘Cox isn’t a KPP’ he may not be, but if we are going to develop the kid he needs a chance to fit his 200cm lanky bod in our backline somehow.

I want to see us bring in an aggressive, hard running mid or two that are at the top of the 2km time trial and help us turn the needle in regards to running out 4th quarters.

I'd like to see a CHF that fits that profile.

 

[Foxx]

First-round bolter Ollie Murphy — a 200cm key defender — could also be in the Bombers’ sights. Murphy, who took out Vic Metro’s MVP award, is lightly built and framed for now, but when he’s ready to go at AFL level, watch out

Ha ha ha ha ha

The last player we need.

 

[Milanista28]

I’d prefer best available and trade up our second rounders to get Reid

That sounds good, I'm ok with that, still would lean hard outside runner with forward ability (Wilson?) over the KPD but Reid would be a good pick up.

Also I still hold out hope for Charlie Edwards.

I think our 3rd pick should be used on a ruck whether that pick is 35 or 61.

 

[FlyingV]

I'd like to see a CHF that fits that profile.

It’s a better idea than a KPD.

Fourth quarter needs to roll around, and the lads need to believe they can run over the oppo. We are so so so far from that right now.

 

[faible]

It’s a better idea than a KPD.

Fourth quarter needs to roll around, and the lads need to believe they can run over the oppo. We are so so so far from that right now.

It's the kind of player Harry Jones was supposed to be, but hasn't (yet) managed to become.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

I think so. Reid is a low chance of making it IMO. I don’t think we’ll be overstocked by taking O’Sullivan.

Low chance, why’s that?

 

[doug85]

Low chance, why’s that?

Chronic injuries

 

[ant555]

All I know is we keep neglecting our forward line by taking KPD at our 1st pick and 2nd picks.

No point taking a forward if they are not up to it. It is one thing to take a KPD if there is a good KPF available. It is another to pick the best player available in an average draft .
Cox is a flanker. Reid is always injured. Hayes three years away .
O’Sullivan is not a lightweight stick either unlike Cox and Reid.
If Caddy is there I have no issues with him . Caddy and O’Sullivan could be gone and we have to go with an outside runner.
The draft just lacks the depth to allow us to be totally specific this year .

 

[ant555]

I have massive reservations taking another KPD, I get the argument of ‘best available’ that comes up every year: but ffs Hayes, Reid, Cox, OSullivan after bringing in McKay on big $$ for 5 years… seems silly (not to mention Weideman and Baldwin). Especially after my eyeballs have just seen us get run totally ragged by Collingwood and GWS who prioritise talented hard running smalls all over the ground.

And before people say ‘Cox isn’t a KPP’ he may not be, but if we are going to develop the kid he needs a chance to fit his 200cm lanky bod in our backline somehow.

I want to see us bring in an aggressive, hard running mid or two that are at the top of the 2km time trial and help us turn the needle in regards to running out 4th quarters.

And if they are not available?

 

[yodellinhank]

The last player we need.

The missing piece of the puzzle, great!

 

[boncer34]

Picking a KPD because he is the best available option at our selection is insane to me.

Am I wrong?

No. It's utter stupidity.

 

[Zach Package]

I think so. Reid is a low chance of making it IMO. I don’t think we’ll be overstocked by taking O’Sullivan.

How do we effectively develop Baldwin, Cox, Reid, Hayes and O’Sullivan at the same time?

Seems a real ‘throw shit at the wall and see what sticks’ methodology

 

[fairbump_playon]

'lightly built and framed' is what has really piqued my interest here.

You left out the “for now”

“Lightly built and framed for now”

It’s easy - we just nail his development. You know… beef him up a bit.

 

[faible]

How do we effectively develop Baldwin, Cox, Reid, Hayes and O’Sullivan at the same time?

Seems a real ‘throw s**t at the wall and see what sticks’ methodology

Cox playing a tall flanker role like Nick Blakey and Reid going forward?

 

[Big Fresh]

Picking a KPD because he is the best available option at our selection is insane to me.

Am I wrong?

I don't hate the idea of O'Sullivan because he looks like such a good prospect and does have that versatility. If he's much better than the next best prospect, it's worth pulling the trigger. But if it's a marginal difference and they still go for the KPD because they're just slightly 'best available', it's terrible list management. Alternatively, if they think a KPD is the biggest need/best use of another first round pick, it's also terrible list management. I'll spew if they pick Murphy.

 

[bombreys]

I’d prefer best available and trade up our second rounders to get Reid

That would leave us with a fairly large number of list spots being filled by young KPP's unlikely to play (assuming you're meaning O'Sullivan & Reid).