Macca180
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He does, he got 4 tickets to the prelim final.
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AFL overtaking NRL in QLD
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He does, he got 4 tickets to the prelim final.
are you just salty that a league fan from Sydney can afford to go to an afl prelim with friends and you don’t have neither the friends nor funds?
Is that why you keep spamming multiple forums and polluting threads with that dribble? Keep going.
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Because the government paid big bucks to get the event. Because it has the capacity to sell a lot of tickets. Because fans can live with it for a one off packed event.
Not because it’s such great experience for rectangular sport. Are you really making the argument that a huge oval is a good experience for a rectangular sport? Is the NFL coming to the MCG because the the oval is really the best fit for NFL or because Victoria paid a shitload of money to host it? Is it passable for a one off event.. sure maybe. Would the NFL want to play a tonne of games at an oval though? If the soccer World Cup was hosted in Australia would we be playing lots of games at Optus Oval, MCG and the new Brisbane Oval? I don't think so.
It’s just passable when it’s packed to a full capacity. And because sports like soccer, union and league accept it. They don't really have much choice unless they just play every single big game at Homebush right? They’re not suitable venues for regular competition especially when it’s half full and people are sitting 30m away from the action even with good seats.
Is that really a hard thing to comprehend or am I part of the “rectangular mafia”?
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Maybe you should write to the Gabba and tell them to update their own website with these capacity figures you’ve plucked out.
I do know the capacity has reduced a bit (36,37,38?) but we don’t know exactly to what so I’m using a first party source.
Even if you bring the capacity figure of the Gabba down a few thousand, the lions are not “much closer” to capacity than the broncos so you’re still wrong. They’re both in the 80% full range.
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Correct there’s more than enough airtime and attention capacity for both codes, and, gasp, even more sports than just those two.
So tell us about the experience then !
It was a great day out enjoyed it.
Yes.
For most of spectators ovals like Perth stadium are much better.
Perth stadium is tiered so the upper levels are closer to the action than a single bank stadium.
Perth Stadium has all good viewing seats and it doesn't suffer from uinpopular seats in the the corner like rectangular stadiums and the goal seats still give a good view of all the action.
Yes, definitely so what you're talking about is building tiny stadiums for the tiny NRL crowds
and playing at the big boy's oval when you have a big boy's crowd.
That's the perfect scenario for a Perth Stadium- like structure
and in fact how Perth stadium operates and how Brisbane and Sydney could operate
if it weren't for stupid jealousy of rectangular minded people.
Aw, come on. You can do better than that. You normally go into intimate detail in all of your posts.
What's wrong, Do you have sudden fright at writing anything positive about AFL ?
Wrong again. You know as well as I do that that publicity is proportional. Minor sports struggle because they don't get any sustained and worthwhile promotion unless there is political intervention.
VLandy has to mindful of quid pro quo. He's acting like Trump trying to get his way with everything but like Trump he's antagonized even his supporters. He as to be careful that he hasn't upset Ch9 with his comments and he certainly cannot expect equal treatment from Ch7 when the Perth Pussies come on line.
What are you even talking about, I'm actually supporting the AFL viewpoint here that Ch9 has enough air time to be able to cover AFL, NRL, and other sports sufficiently - when there's a big AFL event, they should cover it sufficiently. When there's a big NRL event, they should cover it sufficiently too. And vice versa with other channels.
What are you saying that only your favourite big sports should get big coverage? Or is this just your usual blabbering of something I can't even follow.
Perth Stadium is built as well as an oval could be built for a rectangular sport, but it's still the completely wrong shape with spectators along the most expensive seats on the sidelines for rectangular sport being 30m away from the action. This won't fly for soccer world cups and regular competition for NRL, Union or Soccer.
There are other big sporting events in this country other than AFL, I know it must be hard for you to comprehend this fact. The country can afford to have both large oval stadiums and large rectangular stadiums that can cater properly for their sport.
Perth Stadium is built as an oval but with rectangular sports in mind
No, wrong again.
For most of spectators ovals like Perth stadium are much better.
Perth stadium is tiered so the upper levels are closer to the action than a single bank stadium.
Perth Stadium has all good viewing seats and it doesn't suffer from uinpopular seats in the the corner like rectangular stadiums and the goal seats still give a good view of all the action.
And how often are we going to see that ?
regular competition for NRL, Union or Soccer doesn't need a big stadium of any kind.
That's why Perth Stadium was designed the way it was.
Perth Stadium was designed to attract as many sports as possible as well as "events".
Wrong again.
Australia cannot afford to waste money on duplication of large stadiums when there so little difference.
Australia cannot afford another white elephant like the Sydney Olympic Stadium etc.
Rectangular sports have more than enough rectangular stadiums to regularly cater for their regular sport.
Can you post the proof then as requested? You had days to prepare and knew your reputation was on the line, so surely you would have taken a photo with the words Hampton to prove you're not a troll to the Bigfooty community.
I told you guys years ago v'landy's was clearly doing this and nobody believed it. I'm actually jealous he goes into bat for his sport constantly, can you imagine Dillon or Goyder doing this for our game? They can't even do an interview without fumbling through it.
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You think they wont do the same for a grand final? The Vic Gov has already tried.
Homebush is also an oval, has not been changed since it was used for AFL games.
And if they can be used for major matches, they can certainly be used for minor ones. The SCG was for decades. Marvel was by the Storm. Doesnt have to be perfect.
And yes, you and all the whiners like you constitute the rectangle mafia. By 2032 Oval stadiums will be the biggest ones in every state and territory, unless they do a knockdown rebuild of Accor. they have all been fine for big matches and they cater for every code, delivering benefits for the taxpayer in the South and West of the country.
The Taxpayer shouldnt have to fork out for both rectangle and oval stadiums, when an Oval stadium can do them all. And do it well: see, Adelaide Oval, Perth Stadium, the MCG.
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Actually they all qualify in Australia. Adelaide Oval, the MCG, Docklands and Perth already fall within FIFA sight guidelines. They even allow for stadiums inside athletic tracks.
Do you have a source on that? From the FIFA world cup stadium guidelines they strongly recommend stadiums configured for rectangular sport. Do you think an Australian bid will win if all the big stadiums for the big games are ovals? Especially if we go up against other rich countries in Asia confederate which includes Saudis who are not building ovals but stadiums that suit the sports that are played there? Doesn't exactly portray the biggest sporting event in the world to have all their big games in ovals.
Homebush is the perfect counter point to your view that 'ovals are just great for rectangular sport'. Nobody likes it, literally nobody - Because it was originally configured as an oval. But it's passable when it's packed full because the atmosphere trumps it. Same with hosting origins and internationals at other ovals, its ok when it's full.
And it was kept as an oval because the AFL paid a few million dollars to keep it that way to ensure it can be used for AFL events. Which obviously ended over a decade ago.
However it's the closest this country has to a large rectangular stadium because at least the stands on the sidelines are brought in close to the boundary.
The argument that 'if it's used for big events it can be used for small' is completely false because of the above point I made. When the stadium is packed, it offsets the crapness of watching a rectangle event in an oval. But with a smaller event when there's 25,000 people in a 65,000 oval, it's hardly a good experience. We know this, because we have Homebush arleady which sucks. Are you going to try to counter that and say homebush has been great for smaller rectangular events?
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Has anyone other than you suggested playing regular season rectagle games on the MCG?
****ing lol. thats not how it works.
Sorry I don't report to random internet trolls like yourself.
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I believe part of the MCG falls outside maximum guidelines, but Adelaide, perth and docklands fall in, especially docklands.
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again, you tread in thin ice here already yourself.
If people in here are so worried about taxpayers to be building large rectangular stadiums but on the flip side think its totally appropriate for a small poor state like Tasmania to add to already 2 appropriately sized and upgraded ovals to build another 1.5B oval to cater for 1 new team. But that's a justification of taxpayer money? Bit hypocritical there.
Isn't the logical conclusion of this argument that all the big cities should just build one big oval that can be used for all sports? That would entail also playing regular season games there, particularly larger games.
Don't get what you're saying here? Didn't you say "And if they can be used for major matches, they can certainly be used for minor ones." I'm saying thats basically Homebush which noone likes, right?
So by 2032 it would be ok in your eyes to play major rectangular events only in ovals? Brisbane should just forget Suncorp, Sydney should just make a huge oval, and all rectangular large events be played in ovals? What a poor look for this country to have major international sports like Union and Football tests played only in ovals, large Rugby League events all in ovals.
Luckily the government doesn't share your view. The qld government came out and said that Suncorp will get a transformational upgrade ahead of the Olympics. https://www.couriermail.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=CMWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/premier-commits-to-major-next-generation-suncorp-transformation/news-story/862b632fdf89f1ddfd8e7d11344bfd0b&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-1-SCORE
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