AFL overtaking NRL in QLD

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

To be honest people in QLD don't even really support the QLD NRL teams, theres no real passionate support. Maybe Nth QLD Cowboys being the exception. They have an interest when they're winning, but that's as far as it goes.

I think current crowds/popularity for the Lions and Suns is as good as it's going to be.

 

[BringBackTorps]

nine.com Z.Gates 17.5.21

V'landys states that if the NRL does not resolve the head knocks issue, "...there will be no game in 15 years. I've seen the research, etc. (about public & parental concern- my words)...".

V'landys' gobful to critics of foul-play crackdown

The scary reality driving unapologetic boss

wwos.nine.com.au

V'landys believes that concerns over head knocks, concussion etc. is causing a decline in GR contact RL nos.


Titans' owners are worried Brisbane 2 will cannibalise support for their club.

Footy Developments in NSW and Queensland

..for anyone not gifted with the narrow aptitude advantaged in that sport. An Australian Rules Footballer has the most options, the most varied demands placed upon his skills. An ideal Australian Rules Footballer would have lightning acceleration, run all day, kick long and accurately, take...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I’m not sold on this. How many parents will turn their nose up at a game that is so different from the one they played?

I got my son into league 3 years ago and he loves it but while i obviously care about his safety I actually loved the character that league teaches you (on the field) in dealing with the reality that you WILL get hurt. Accidents happen, you will get belted, be sore, get hit High etc and in many cases there may be not a thing Anyone could have done to prevent it.

im all for punishing thuggery but you cannot police accidents and punish circumstantial situations and league is digging itself a dangerous hole at the moment

Your personal opinion isn’t going to change the stats. As participation in sports goes up, rugby league has consistently been trending down. that’s a killer for the future of the game if they can’t change it

 

[Gigantor]

Your personal opinion isn’t going to change the stats. As participation in sports goes up, rugby league has consistently been trending down. that’s a killer for the future of the game if they can’t change it

I wouldn't call it a killer, but it does point towards the AFL consolidating a rather healthy position.

 

[PhatBoy]

Your personal opinion isn’t going to change the stats. As participation in sports goes up, rugby league has consistently been trending down. that’s a killer for the future of the game if they can’t change it

I very much doubt it has much if anything to do with the amount of concussions at NRL level.

what you’re seeing now in the NRL? That’s a diet version of how junior rugby league is officiated and has been for as long as I’ve watched it.

I’m not arguing numbers or statistics. I’m arguing that the current NRL crackdown on high contact and the past banning of the shoulder charge have absolutely no role to play in those numbers going back up

 

[Football Tragic]

With that article, it's definitely a case of not mentioning the war.

It was interesting that they did not mention any other sports or codes one time in the article. If this article was truly about transparency, then it should have listed all the variables and obviously the growth of competing codes would be a major factor in their figures. I would love to see them show the increase of AFL participation figures over the same period, particularly the female growth and the Auskick numbers.

I think the new rule will not improve numbers but rather confuse traditional supporters. In theory, breaking competitions into weight categories and protecting the head could give parents more confidence to enroll their children but in reality they will alienate the pacific islanders who make up the majority of their top level teams and a high percentage of their grass level competitions.

This article, more than any other comment pieces or subjective numbers, really does demonstrate the decline of NRL in not only Queensland but in their heartland - NSW. I don't think the NRL will ever die, but it will be increasingly less significant as time goes on.

 

[PhatBoy]

It was interesting that they did not mention any other sports or codes one time in the article. If this article was truly about transparency, then it should have listed all the variables and obviously the growth of competing codes would be a major factor in their figures. I would love to see them show the increase of AFL participation figures over the same period, particularly the female growth and the Auskick numbers.

I think the new rule will not improve numbers but rather confuse traditional supporters. In theory, breaking competitions into weight categories and protecting the head could give parents more confidence to enroll their children but in reality they will alienate the pacific islanders who make up the majority of their top level teams and a high percentage of their grass level competitions.

This article, more than any other comment pieces or subjective numbers, really does demonstrate the decline of NRL in not only Queensland but in their heartland - NSW. I don't think the NRL will ever die, but it will be increasingly less significant as time goes on.

This has been prophesied for 25 years now since super league was first mooted. The code and competition will never reach its heights of 1960-1990 but it’s gone through worse before and it’s still the major code in the northern states and it won’t change

 

[NoobPie]

This has been prophesied for 25 years now since super league was first mooted. The code and competition will never reach its heights of 1960-1990 but it’s gone through worse before and it’s still the major code in the northern states and it won’t change

I don't think the NRL will ever die, but it will be increasingly less significant as time goes on.

 

[Sherrinator]

how many people in Brisbane have any affiliation for the sharks or dragons?

Dragons are probably the 2nd highest NRL following in Brisbane due to past NSWRL success.

 

[Daka]

Interesting because it's probably declined in Victoria..

I have a feeling that COVID helped QLD footy with the clubs relocating for 2020 season.

 

[1990crow]

Gold Coast Suns need a rebrand and salary cap increase. Bring in a couple of extras players and have a couple of dominant seasons.

 

[Established1870]

A couple of questions for people in a position to respond:

1) Is this thing about Pacific Islanders/Maoris being sumo-sized in the junior levels of Rugby an actual complaint or is it in the same ballpark as idiots saying they don't want their kids playing basketball/soccer because of Sudanese kids? I've known a number of Maoris and Islanders since high school and only one has struck me as being a monster compared to everyone else in our age group growing up.

2) I genuinely believe that Queensland should get another side or two in the AFL in my life time, so 30 years from now. I've always been a big advocate for FNQ, in particular Cairns, getting a side one day but the Sunshine Coast looks another really promising area to put a team in eventually. Are either of those ever actually feasible and if they were, who'd be more likely?

 

[Hoops]

Outside of Brisbane and GC they still barely know what AFL is

I doubt they can spell it.

 

[nut]

State of origin is bigger than its comp.

most people’s interest increase when it’s on.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Gold Coast Suns need a rebrand and salary cap increase. Bring in a couple of extras players and have a couple of dominant seasons.

The Suns are a financial black hole for the AFL they need to be relocated

 

[AFLQLD]

The Suns are a financial black hole for the AFL they need to be relocated

Zero chance of this happening.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Zero chance of this happening.

I know and that's why it will continue to be a huge financial black hole for the game and the hole will get bigger

 

[NoobPie]

I know and that's why it will continue to be a huge financial black hole for the game and the hole will get bigger

Confusing wishful thinking with reality

The AFL will persist with the suns who will be more popular in 20 years than they will be in 10 years. For the AFL it is just a matter of resource allocation and sticking solid to a long term strategy.

The scary thing for the NRL is they won't be able to add a new team in Brisbane because of the Titans.....and they need to keep titans because of the Suns. So they'll be stunted in the market they a desperately trying to hang on to while they have to deal with a private owner who can hold them over the barrel

 

[Gigantor]

The Suns have shown previously that they can get crowds regularly in excess of 13k, and once you're at that level, you're basically bigger than most NRL and A-League clubs.

 

[Angus Young]

I know and that's why it will continue to be a huge financial black hole for the game and the hole will get bigger

Will it?

 

[BringBackTorps]

The NRL 2021 comp. has become the most one-sided since 1935; & a big increase in blow-out scores. The much-bemoaned "gap" between the top 4 & bottom 4 clubs is likely to be an ongoing problem.
The decline in male contact RL nos. is contributing to the NRL's inability to provide sufficient high quality players for all 16 clubs- ominous for the popularity of the NRL, particularly if the NRL expands to 17 clubs (Further skills' dilution).
The 3 Qld. clubs are struggling.



Courier Mail 12.5.21

"An analysis of the first 10 rounds of a lopsided NRL competition reveals the average winning margin this season has blown out to 17.9 points, the most since way back in 1935 when it was 20.3 points.

There has been a 12 per cent increase this year in games decided by 19-plus compared to last year, and a 9 per cent decrease in games decided by 0-6 points.

It is a significant problem for the NRL because ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys and chief executive Andrew Abdo are in talks with free-to-air broadcasters for a new television deal.

The blowouts have an obvious detrimental effect on ratings.

The other concern for the NRL is expansion plans for a 17th team out of Brisbane and the possibility of having another club potentially incapable of matching it with the premiership heavyweights.

There are already question marks around having enough quality players for 16 teams, let alone one more".

 

[Aussie in exile]

Will it?

Yes

 

[NoobPie]

Yes

But only in your fantasies

 

[ForzaRoma]

Why don't the pricks at 7 put it on the main channel. I thought they were a few years ago into nsw and qld for swans and lions games.

Actually, Channel 7 have been giving us a lot of main channel games these days. Back in 2018, we only had 1 Brisbane Lions game on the main channel up here. In 2019, we had around 5-6, in 2020, we had around 11-12. This year, there will be even more. Pretty much all of our saturday night games have been on the main channel this year, saturday and sunday arvo as well. Even the Friday night collingwood game. I don't know why they didn't put the Richmond game on the main channel considering more people watched the Lions game on 7mate than Better Homes and Gardens on Channel 7, but they have been really good to us lately, that's for sure.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

CQ has been close to securing an NRL license on several occasions and it is really only a matter of time.

I agree that an AFL team is unlikely. If the Gold Coast struggle to retain players then Central Queensland is even more likely to do so.

But if CQ is given an NRL license it's highly unlikely that AFL will ever become the more popular code in Queensland

They haven't been close on any occasions. Gold Coast and Central Coast were the big contenders in 2007. Brisbane 2 and Wellington are the contenders now.

In a sporting/financial sense, CQ is a third-rate market, well behind Brisbane, the Gold Coast, Townsville and Cairns in terms of the money that can be made there. They're only in the discussion because of their coal mining wealth, and that industry isn't going to be as strong over the next 30 years. They suffer from being spread across 4-5 cities that are all under 100 000 people, with the biggest ones being 300km away from each other. If you put a team in Rocky, how many people would you reasonably get each week driving to games from Mackay or Bundaberg? Not that many, I would imagine, given it would be a full day trip.

I think the government ought to invest money in some of the CQ cities to diversify their economies more and help them grow. But until that happens, they're not going to get a team in any major national competition.