AFL stats prove we need a Warnock !!

[HibeeOz]

Check the link below to AFL stats page.
Most glaring facts = we need a dominant tap ruckman
& Fisher can actually play a bit !!


http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/team_home?tid=103

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Thanks, but was there really a need for another Warnock thread...

 

[HibeeOz]

Thanks, but was there really a need for another Warnock thread...

Dont open the tread then ...vote with yr fingers

ps its not just about the big shocker , too many posts condemning Fish so interesting the stats show otherwise.

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Dont open the tread then ...vote with yr fingers

ps its not just about the big shocker , too many posts condemning Fish so interesting the stats show otherwise.

I think its a little warrented actually... For a supposed 3rd forward for that matter to only kick 25 goals in 21 games is just not good enough...

 

[Shambolic]

I think its a little warrented actually... For a supposed 3rd forward for that matter to only kick 25 goals in 21 games is just not good enough...

Our top 3 forwards kicked 149 goals - that's got to be worthwhile.

 

[CrippsonBlue]

Thanks, but was there really a need for another Warnock thread...

As opposed to another rumour thread being created on Kerr coming to Carlton

(Don't actually care about either by the way...this is what the off-season is all about isn't it?)

 

[HBF]

What was blatantly obvious this year was that we were smashed in the ruck, and therefore had a real hard time at it at the stoppages. Getting Warnock will go along way in fixing this problem.

 

[blues4flag]

Yep. What better way to remedy our ruck problem than by drafting a guy who averages less hitouts per game than Kreuzer, Cloke and Hampson.

Clearly his hitout average is affected by playing a far second fiddle to Sandilands, but don't expect him to come in day one and dominate in the ruck.

 

[SOSForever]

Yep. What better way to remedy our ruck problem than by drafting a guy who averages less hitouts per game than Kreuzer, Cloke and Hampson.

Clearly his hitout average is affected by playing a far second fiddle to Sandilands, but don't expect him to come in day one and dominate in the ruck.

1 Aaron Sandilands 28.7
2 Dean Cox 25.6
3 Darren Jolly 23.2
4 Brad Ottens 20.9
5 Mark Blake 20.4
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28 Cameron Cloke 10.4
29 Cameron Wood 10.2
30 Matthew Kreuzer 10
31 Mark Seaby 9.8
32 Jason Laycock 9.7
33 Brad Moran 9.3
34 Drew Petrie 9.3
35 Paul Johnson 8.8
36 Shaun Hampson 8.8
37 David Hale 8
38 Robert Warnock 7.9



What he said...

 

[Amers]

Some interesting stats from that link.

Here are a few stats (from the whole '08 season) that we really need to improve in

Contested marks - 57 less than opposition - not big enough or strong enough in the air.

Tackles - 60 less than opposition - not accountable enough or chase hard enough

Hit outs - 316 less than opposition - we really need a GOOD ruckman !!

Contested posessions - 44 less than opposition - we have to be harder @ the ball.

Bounces - 107 less than opposition - we need a lot more run with the ball, IMO we play way too static.

Errors - 106 more than opposition - our skills and decision making have to improve.

Things we were good at !!

Frees for - 10 more than opposition
Free against - 5 less than opposition
1st posession - 65 more than opposition
Clearances - 31 more than opposition

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Some interesting stats from that link.

Here are a few stats (from the whole '08 season) that we really need to improve in

Contested marks - 57 less than opposition - not big enough or strong enough in the air.

Tackles - 60 less than opposition - not accountable enough or chase hard enough

Hit outs - 316 less than opposition - we really need a GOOD ruckman !!

Contested posessions - 44 less than opposition - we have to be harder @ the ball.

Bounces - 107 less than opposition - we need a lot more run with the ball, IMO we play way too static.

Errors - 106 more than opposition - our skills and decision making have to improve.

Things we were good at !!

Frees for - 10 more than opposition
Free against - 5 less than opposition
1st posession - 65 more than opposition
Clearances - 31 more than opposition

and i thought we had a good year... makes me want to rethink that

 

[blues4flag]

and i thought we had a good year... makes me want to rethink that

On the other hand, the 1st possession/clearance stats are very promising, considering the dominance of the opposition ruckmen. If we managed to break even in the ruck, we'd have a huge ascendancy in the centre of the ground.

We did field a young and inexperienced side all year, so those contested mark/possessions, even tackles are areas that'll hopefully improve with more hardened bodies. Our disposal has been an issue for years now.

 

[Amers]

On the other hand, the 1st possession/clearance stats are very promising, considering the dominance of the opposition ruckmen. If we managed to break even in the ruck, we'd have a huge ascendancy in the centre of the ground.

We did field a young and inexperienced side all year, so those contested mark/possessions, even tackles are areas that'll hopefully improve with more hardened bodies. Our disposal has been an issue for years now.

I agree b4f, I did not post these stats as a criticism, but more as a guide to areas that we need to maybe focus and improve on in the off season.

 

[BlueYoss]

Frees for - 10 more than opposition
Free against - 5 less than opposition
1st posession - 65 more than opposition
Clearances - 31 more than opposition

Two words:

Chris Judd

 

[albyg]

1 Aaron Sandilands 28.7
2 Dean Cox 25.6
3 Darren Jolly 23.2
4 Brad Ottens 20.9
5 Mark Blake 20.4
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.
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28 Cameron Cloke 10.4
29 Cameron Wood 10.2
30 Matthew Kreuzer 10
31 Mark Seaby 9.8
32 Jason Laycock 9.7
33 Brad Moran 9.3
34 Drew Petrie 9.3
35 Paul Johnson 8.8
36 Shaun Hampson 8.8
37 David Hale 8
38 Robert Warnock 7.9



What he said...

It all depends on how many contests he (Warnock) had compared to our 2 blokes, so I dont think comparing from the above stat is fare. He looks to me as if he still has to mature a bit and fill out a touch, hopefully he can be a dominant giraffe like Harry Madden, anywhere near him and we are well on our way.
If Hampson comes on we can start to settle Kruez as another option up forward, making a contest at every opportunity until he starts to grab games by the neck for the next 10 yrs. If I can rememeber Stocks was initially a ruck forward, hope Kruez turn out the same.

One thing is for sure the stats show us we need a ruck. One thing they don't state is the importance of a ruck when your team has a run on and the momentum is all with us. The first place to stop the momentum is usually in the ruck, as its the next phase of the game after scoring a goal. I think this was critical this year, we had 4-5 goal leads in a few games early and during the season which we lost, Richmond and St Kilda spring to mind. A good stat would be where the momentum was stopped and who let us down when things changed.


BTW bring on 2009, go the Blues!!!!

 

[Optus Penguin]

Check the link below to AFL stats page.
Most glaring facts = we need a dominant tap ruckman
& Fisher can actually play a bit !!


http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/team_home?tid=103

Interesting as the stats have all been better than last year except for goals. Not bad for a skinny 192cm 3rd forward playing KP

 

[Bluebear]

Check the link below to AFL stats page.
Most glaring facts = we need a dominant tap ruckman
& Fisher can actually play a bit !!


http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/team_home?tid=103

So we beat teams with first possession and clearances.

Proves we need Warnock?
Hardley.