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With our stacked midfield, maybe Aish could settle in the side at half back. We have a fair few small/medium defenders, but not many of them are creative good decision makers and users. Aish could maybe fill the void at half back we haven't filled since Leon and Heater left and be our "quarter back" so they say.
 
Hm, not for me, why play Aish at half back when he is just taking the spot of 2 of the most natural half backs on the list in Scharenberg and Langdon?

Aish is incredibly creative in the front half of the ground, i want him delivering the ball inside fifty, just like i want Pendlebury delivering the ball inside 50, and just like i want Treloar delivering the ball inside 50. None of the half back stuff from them thanks.

I say we play players to there natural positions. We arent short of quality backman.
 
mike123 said:
With our stacked midfield, maybe Aish could settle in the side at half back. We have a fair few small/medium defenders, but not many of them are creative good decision makers and users. Aish could maybe fill the void at half back we haven't filled since Leon and Heater left and be our "quarter back" so they say.
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Give him a run in the ruck..
 

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Pricey97 nailed it; Treloar and Aish are going to improve our efficiency going inside 50. With Moore, Fas and Elliott up forward along with Howe now we have some accurate goal kickers and the days of us kicking 11.23 each week must become a thing of the past.
 
Pricey97 said:
Hm, not for me, why play Aish at half back when he is just taking the spot of 2 of the most natural half backs on the list in Scharenberg and Langdon?
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Why don't we play one of those guys as a third tall tall instead of having the slowest half backs line in the competition?
 
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Why don't we play one of those guys as a third tall tall instead of having the slowest half backs line in the competition?
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And watch them get out bodied and out muscled every game by ruckman and 3rd talls?. Ive seen both those men get beaten as key defenders and third talls, at this stage they will get beaten in that position, they may have decent height, but the strength isnt there, Marsh is the better man for that 3rd tall position.

I prefer actual talent in there position over speed, look at Hawthorns backline, hardly fast at all. They just have fantastic readers of the play, and we have the natural backline talent to replicate this without having to put a midfielder down there. Its not like we would lack speed anyway, Marsh and Williams are both fast in the own right.
 
I'm not getting this obsession with turning our mids like Varcoe, Aish and Pendles into HBFer types when we already have Langdon, Sinclair, Oxley, Ramsay, Scharenberg, Marsh, Maynard, Toovey, Goldsack and Goodyear fighting for the 4x non-KPD spots in our defense. I appreciate that certain posters have their own peccadilloes in terms of player selections but clearly the coaches and selectors rate them all otherwise they'd have been delisted or traded.
 
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mike123 said:
Why don't we play one of those guys as a third tall tall instead of having the slowest half backs line in the competition?
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How is a HB line of some combo of these guys

Toovey/Marsh/Sinclair - Frost/Reid - Langdon/Williams/Maynard/Ramsay

even close to the slowest in the league?
 

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How is a HB line of some combo of these guys

Toovey/Marsh/Sinclair - Frost/Reid - Langdon/Williams/Maynard/Ramsay

even close to the slowest in the league?
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I was referring to the Langdon and Scharenberg one. Both those players are slow.

As for the highlighted, that one is fast I'll give that, but full of turnover merchants.

Also Aish did play in the backline in the SANFL grandfinal so he has experience there.
 
Our midfield was lacking depth and rotations this year. We can't be looking to play quality mids outside of the midfield
permanently. What we can do is have Aish play 50/50 time midfield and half-back for instance though. This will force someone like Maynard back to VFL however.
 
mike123 said:
Why don't we play one of those guys as a third tall tall instead of having the slowest half backs line in the competition?
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I would like to see more of Varcoe off the half back flank. I think a good defensive balance could be something like:

---Williams---Brown---Langdon---
----Berg------Reid-----Varcoe---

Good mix of speed; talls and smalls; and skills in that group.
 
jackcass said:
How is a HB line of some combo of these guys

Toovey/Marsh/Sinclair - Frost/Reid - Langdon/Williams/Maynard/Ramsay

even close to the slowest in the league?
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I was referring to the Langdon and Scharenberg one. Both those players are slow.

As for the highlighted, that one is fast I'll give that, but full of turnover merchants.

Also Aish did play in the backline in the SANFL grandfinal so he has experience there.
 

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At the moment we potentially have HBFs without a 1st 22 spot in Sinclair, Scharenberg, Toovey, Ramsay, Oxley and Goldsack. This assumes

Williams Brown Marsh
Maynard Frost Langdon

as starters based on 2015 form and maybe one spot on the bench for one of the other six. We are overloaded with HBFers. Varcoe can go there also. Aish for the midfield.
 
Same response as per the Pendles thread: play him where he is best suited. Like all the mids I expect him to rotate around and spend a fair bit of time down back as well as forward. Thats the way Bucks seems to coach.
 

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