All Australian thread 2015

[Back One Out]

Hodge is averaging 26 touches, only 8 contested and kicked less than a goal a game. Throw in his missed game and he doesn't make it.

and played as a utility/half back flank in most games…

Matthew Boyd is the only other player with comparable stats to Hodge in such a role.
Rory Laird is the next best half back, averaging 23.9 possessions

Hodge is still one of the more versatile players in the AFL, capable of defending and providing rebound, moving into the centre to win clearances and getting forwards to kick and create goals.

Avg disposals (after Round 20)
30.6 Sam Mitchell, 6 goals
30.4 Jordan Lewis, 5 goals
30.1 Dan Hannebery, 13 goals
29.8 Dane Swan, 18 goals
29.8 Andrew Gaff, 9 goals
29.8 Matt Priddis, 6 goals
29.7 Josh Kennedy, 10 goals
29.4 Nat Fyfe, 16 goals
29.0 Leigh Montagna, 8 goals
28.8 Scott Pendlebury, 14 goals
28.7 David Armitage, 11 goals
28.2 Dayne Beams, 10 goals
27.4 Adam Treloar, 11 goals
27.4 Patrick Dangerfield, 18 goals
27.4 Jack Macrae, 3 goals
27.3 Marc Murphy, 7 goals
27.3 Lachie Neale, 12 goals
27.2 Luke Hodge, 15 goals
27.2 Matthew Boyd, 1 goal

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

One of Wingard or Betts will miss to squeeze another midfielder in. They won't pick 2 additional small forwards to partner Rioli.

Rioli won't make it. Betts and wingard will

 

[billy fragos]

Jack Riewoldt and Walker's stats are pretty similar.

Walker averages more goals, disposals, marks, Inside 50s and assists.

 

[Richo83]

Walker averages more goals, disposals, marks, Inside 50s and assists.

Goals by 0.3, inside 50s are even average wise, marks by 1, goal assists are even and disposals by 1. The margin is small if not non-existent. Plus Richmond don't play as an attacking style of play as Adelaide meaning that their forwards don't score as much.

 

[Scotland]

HF: Gray Walker Martin
F: Betts Kennedy Wingard

 

[billy fragos]

Goals by 0.3, inside 50s are even average wise, marks by 1, goal assists are even and disposals by 1. The margin is small if not non-existent. Plus Richmond don't play as an attacking style of play as Adelaide meaning that their forwards don't score as much.

Disposals - Walker 14.2 - Riewoldt 13.2
Goals - Walker 2.7 - Riewoldt 2.4
Behinds - Walker 2 - Riewoldt 1.3
Marks - Walker 7.2 - Riewoldt 6.2
Assists - Equal
Inside 50s - Equal

Walker is the better CHF and that is the postition they are fighting for.

 

[Richo83]

Disposals - Walker 14.2 - Riewoldt 13.2
Goals - Walker 2.7 - Riewoldt 2.4
Behinds - Walker 2 - Riewoldt 1.3
Marks - Walker 7.2 - Riewoldt 6.2
Assists - Equal
Inside 50s - Equal

Walker is the better CHF and that is the postition they are fighting for.

I don't really care about disposals, it's a stat relevant for midfielders but not so relevant for talls. Simply put, Riewoldt averages less marks and goals per game because Richmond's style of play is less attacking. But it doesn't mean that Riewoldt hasn't been as good at the CHF position this season. And even then, the gap between the two is minimal.

One stat you seem to neglect (and it's a key one for CHF) is the contested marks stat, which Riewoldt wins 1.7 to 0.9, almost double. As I said, the stats between the two is very similar, and plus, I find the raw stats game to be futile anyway.

 

[billy fragos]

I don't really care about disposals, it's a stat relevant for midfielders but not so relevant for talls. Simply put, Riewoldt averages less marks and goals per game because Richmond's style of play is less attacking. But it doesn't mean that Riewoldt hasn't been as good at the CHF position this season. And even then, the gap between the two is minimal.

One stat you seem to neglect (and it's a key one for CHF) is the contested marks stat, which Riewoldt wins 1.7 to 0.9, almost double. As I said, the stats between the two is very similar, and plus, I find the raw stats game to be futile anyway.

Disposals are more important than contested marks for a CHF. And it's to bad for you if walker is better because Adelaide play more attacking.

 

[Richo83]

Disposals are more important than contested marks for a CHF.

I guess that means Justin Westhoff is the best CHF in the league then eh? Given both of them average around 12-13 touches a game, it's really hard to argue that disposals matter that much.

And if disposals do matter, then consider the fact that Walker averages more clangers per game and his effective disposal % is lower.

 

[billy fragos]

I guess that means Justin Westhoff is the best CHF in the league then eh? Given both of them average around 12-13 touches a game, it's really hard to argue that disposals matter that much.

And if disposals do matter, then consider the fact that Walker averages more clangers per game and his effective disposal % is lower.

In your opinion who is ahead at the moment?

 

[Richo83]

In your opinion who is ahead at the moment?

I think they're very close and both could be justifiably placed in the team, both had really good seasons. If the selectors put in three KPFs they could both be fit in.

 

[Bailey01]

God if Tex kicked straight this year then he'd be a shoe in. Still a possibility though.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

J.Cameron will be the second tall forward

 

[eth-dog]

Sandilands giving Goldstein a bath again.

 

[Bailey01]

J.Cameron will be the second tall forward

Yes he's kicked the 2nd most goals in the comp but what else does he do?

 

[JHF1870]

I don't really care about disposals, it's a stat relevant for midfielders but not so relevant for talls. Simply put, Riewoldt averages less marks and goals per game because Richmond's style of play is less attacking. But it doesn't mean that Riewoldt hasn't been as good at the CHF position this season. And even then, the gap between the two is minimal.

One stat you seem to neglect (and it's a key one for CHF) is the contested marks stat, which Riewoldt wins 1.7 to 0.9, almost double. As I said, the stats between the two is very similar, and plus, I find the raw stats game to be futile anyway.

15 Damaging possessions is way more important than 30 scrappy ones.

 

[Richo83]

15 Damaging possessions is way more important than 30 scrappy ones.

I agree, but considering the two players we're talking about average around 13-14 disposals and Riewoldt averages less clangers per game, the quality possession argument suits Riewoldt.

Overall I think marks inside 50, contested marks, goals and goal assists matter for KPFs. Not disposals.

 

[Smokeless Wardance]

I personally think Riewoldt has slightly edged Tex but would expect the selectors to lean the other way, he seems to be more popular with commentators and considered (rightly or wrongly) to be a better leader, plus end of season form always seems to count for more than the middle rounds as it's fresher in the memory

 

[JHF1870]

I agree, but considering the two players we're talking about average around 13-14 disposals and Riewoldt averages less clangers per game, the quality possession argument suits Riewoldt.

Overall I think marks inside 50, contested marks, goals and goal assists matter for KPFs. Not disposals.

I was just agreeing with your earlier point

 

[ize_]

It's an open race for the CHF spot really, could well genuinely come down to the last two rounds. I've had Jack in for a month or two now but his form has really tapered off. Still doing useful things and playing a role but has only kicked 7 goals in the last 5 weeks. Needs a big bag or two to seal the deal, but if he is carrying an injury as is rumoured, it would be an unlikely performance.

 

[jc12]

Don't think we are getting 4 aa's

Rance a lock

Delideo has missed to many games, otherwise would be very close

J roo has been quite the last month which I think might cost him

Dusty probably a 50/50 proposition

Cotchin should make the squad, probably just out of the 22

I don't think lids has missed a costly amount he would of played 17 by seasons end ? That's better than Stevie j in 07 I think
I agree with riewoldt a bit he just needs one big game and it seals it up for him , just like Betts
Dusty though has been wonderful , consistent and has added inside stuff to his game , he'd be wonderful on the bench to replace a forward or midfielder

 

[shinboner spiggs]

Sandilands giving Goldstein a bath again.

Shaded him overall but can't keep a good man down, all class in that last quarter. Sandy got the points in the hitouts but around the ground goldy got the chocolates.

 

[Watson_my_mind]

Stringer Tex Kennedy the three talls in the forward line, Wingard, Betts, Martin the three smalls.

 

[tek87]

Sandilands the invisible man remains undefeated. not beaten once this year

 

[billy fragos]

B: Laird - Rance - Wood
HB: Shaw - Hurley - Murphy
C: Pendlebury - Fyfe - Hannerbery
HF: Wingard - Walker - Martin
F: Betts - Kennedy - Stringer
R: Goldstein - Dangerfield - Kennedy
Int: Naitanui - Gaff - Priddis - Mitchell

Bold = Under pressure. With two games remaining the rest are pretty much locks