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[Deathly]

How credible can a reporter be if they've only got 4,400 odd twitter followers--- especially if half way through the news story he transitions into a weird opinion based ramble that makes absolute no sense.

Probably shouldn't comment on his credibility since you're clearly uninformed. You look dumb mentioning things like his twitter followers and trying to label his personal opinion regarding HBO (formulated from actual reported news) as a "conspiracy theory". You're acting like he's harping on for 100 tweets and that his wording is very descriptive and thought out.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

HBO is planning to pump out more content (to compete with Netflix and others). The emphasis on quality television is quietly being dropped to help this happen. https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...nces-New-Organizational-Model-Leadership-Team

If AT&T is buying AEW's weekly show for basic cable TBS or TNT there's a logic to putting to the 'PPVs' on HBO.

inb4 They didn't literally say the quality will go down and are you saying AEW won't try to be quality???

 

[Senor M]

Probably shouldn't comment on his credibility since you're clearly uninformed. You look dumb mentioning things like his twitter followers and trying to label his personal opinion regarding HBO (formulated from actual reported news) as a "conspiracy theory". You're acting like he's harping on for 100 tweets and that his wording is very descriptive and thought out.

I'm uninformed???

You are posting the tweets of a guy who's had the twitter account for 3 months and barely has anyone following him.

Any "reputable" source would have a much larger following and reliability than that.

Maybe use some legit sources to peddle your pro-AEW bullshit, because at the moment you're the one looking uninformed trusting that as a source.

 

[RossFC]

I'm uninformed???

You are posting the tweets of a guy who's had the twitter account for 3 months and barely has anyone following him.

Any "reputable" source would have a much larger following and reliability than that.

Maybe use some legit sources to peddle your pro-AEW bullshit, because at the moment you're the one looking uninformed trusting that as a source.

Just take it with a grain of salt. I doubt many wrestling fans knew that WarnerMedia/Turner were going to showcase different products on May 15th regarding things that will air in the Q4 of the year.

Wait for that date and if AEW is featured then the guy gave us a heads up. If nothing happens, then go back and tweet abuse at him.

 

[Freomaniac]

That’s true, but nothing will beat his hatred of Russo though!

I don't know. Jim herd, Ed Ferrara and Mark Madden are high on cornys hate list.

 

[jabba5114]

I don't know. Jim herd, Ed Ferrara and Mark Madden are high on cornys hate list.

Nah Russo right at top. The others don't have a restraining order out on him

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[SnakeMan86]

How credible can a reporter be if they've only got 4,400 odd twitter followers--- especially if half way through the news story he transitions into a weird opinion based ramble that makes absolute no sense.

Game of Thrones averaged over 10 million US viewers on HBO in 2017-- expect this season to be even higher. How can AEW make HBO more mainstream than the network already is??

The guy is a flog who is less reliable than Meltzer.

Last season of GOT though, only around 8 weeks left of the series. So in theory they could be looking to recoup some "mainstream" for when it finishes up. Not saying the two demographics are related, but if its mainstream following there after it could help when GOT finishes up.

 

[Senor M]

Last season of GOT though, only around 8 weeks left of the series. So in theory they could be looking to recoup some "mainstream" for when it finishes up. Not saying the two demographics are related, but if its mainstream following there after it could help when GOT finishes up.

What is "mainstream" about a wrestling company??

Not even the brand that's synonymous with Professional Wrestling for the past 15+ years in the WWE can get more than 3-4 million viewers these days on a good day.

How's AEW going to get anywhere near the amount of viewers to be anywhere near as "mainstream" or rate like GOT??

Once again--- seems like a really strange opinion to add to a "news report".

 

[offtherails9]

What is "mainstream" about a wrestling company??

Not even the brand that's synonymous with Professional Wrestling for the past 15+ years in the WWE can get more than 3-4 million viewers these days on a good day.

How's AEW going to get anywhere near the amount of viewers to be anywhere near as "mainstream" or rate like GOT??

Once again--- seems like a really strange opinion to add to a "news report".

I understand what the dude was trying to say but wrestling couldn't be any further from mainstream these days

 

[Cleavy]

What is "mainstream" about a wrestling company??

selling a lot of t-shirts in Hot Topic, or does that not count?

 

[sherrif]

What is "mainstream" about a wrestling company??

Not even the brand that's synonymous with Professional Wrestling for the past 15+ years in the WWE can get more than 3-4 million viewers these days on a good day.

How's AEW going to get anywhere near the amount of viewers to be anywhere near as "mainstream" or rate like GOT??

Once again--- seems like a really strange opinion to add to a "news report".

WWE gets way more than 3-4million viewers each week. Its just that the majority of people watch online through the wwe subscriptions. All tv ratings are down massively. TV ratings mean very little in terms of success of a show nowadays. Its why the wwe was more profitable by a long way than ever before last year despite lower tv ratings. If AEW can generate a significant online following then they could easily play a role in attracting a new audience that would help to fill part of the whole left by GOT. Not sure why you have so much hate for a company that hasnt even started yet. Everything so far is insanely promising.

 

[sherrif]

I understand what the dude was trying to say but wrestling couldn't be any further from mainstream these days

Really? Then why does wwe make more profits than ever before? Hard to do that if they're not part of the mainstream.

 

[offtherails9]

Really? Then why does wwe make more profits than ever before? Hard to do that if they're not part of the mainstream.

That doesn't mean its mainstream at all man. I'd say it was mainstream for a period in the late 90s/early 00s but it's not as popular in the mainstream as it once was. Nobody thinks of Reigns or Rollins like they do Austin/Rock

 

[cheesedogg]

Mainstream would mean that I could go to work tomorrow and talk about current wrestlers or wrestling programming and more than 1 out of maybe 20 people would have any idea who or what I was talking about

 

[Damon_3388]

Really? Then why does wwe make more profits than ever before? Hard to do that if they're not part of the mainstream.

Wrestling is less mainstream than ever, but those that are into it are more passionate and willing and able to spend more than ever (given a large part of the audience is 20-something and 30-something males with disposable income).

I'm still sceptical of AEW doing anything other than spreading thin an already overloaded (in terms of content and viewing options) existing wrestling audience. Yeah, they've got a number of guys on the roster that wrestling diehards will want to see (Darby Allin is a great recent signing, look out for him if you don't know him already). But what exactly are they going to do that will bring new eyes and new money to the business, especially if they going to let the boys book it and run the shows themselves, and are going to run a TV product without any experienced TV production people involved?

 

[sherrif]

Wrestling is less mainstream than ever, but those that are into it are more passionate and willing and able to spend more than ever (given a large part of the audience is 20-something and 30-something males with disposable income).

I'm still sceptical of AEW doing anything other than spreading thin an already overloaded (in terms of content and viewing options) existing wrestling audience. Yeah, they've got a number of guys on the roster that wrestling diehards will want to see (Darby Allin is a great recent signing, look out for him if you don't know him already). But what exactly are they going to do that will bring new eyes and new money to the business, especially if they going to let the boys book it and run the shows themselves, and are going to run a TV product without any experienced TV production people involved?

I dont get how anyone can know either way. That's the point. Judge them on their tv production once you've seen it. The market they could get for wrestling would be those interested in mma or ufc to add AEW to their regular viewing through a more realistic wrestling product. What they do online will be way more important to any tv deal. Being the Elite already has a terrific following. New Japan, ROH and independent wrestling fans from around the world mean they already have a terrific loyal base to build their product from. Its not much to suggest that all of those types of fans will watch what they watch already and add AEW to their regular viewing.

 

[Damon_3388]

The market they could get for wrestling would be those interested in mma or ufc to add AEW to their regular viewing through a more realistic wrestling product.

It's not like this isn't already out there though.

If you want a more wrestling-based product, you've got NXT (at times) and ROH and Japan and various other indies. If you want ECW-style stuff (probably more extreme and adult and violent and bloody than ECW ever was), you look to something like Game Changer Wrestling.

Its not much to suggest that all of those types of fans will watch what they watch already and add AEW to their regular viewing.

That's great, but that's exactly what I'm saying, they're probably just going to attract existing wrestling fans, not provide anything new or different that really expands the scope and reach of the business.

 

[sherrif]

It's not like this isn't already out there though.

If you want a more wrestling-based product, you've got NXT (at times) and ROH and Japan and various other indies. If you want ECW-style stuff (probably more extreme and adult and violent and bloody than ECW ever was), you look to something like Game Changer Wrestling.



That's great, but that's exactly what I'm saying, they're probably just going to attract existing wrestling fans, not provide anything new or different that really expands the scope and reach of the business.

How about we just wait and see. They've already become well know around the world, so the international market is where there could also be new viewers. UFC fans and MMA fans are also new viewers if they previously only watched martial arts.

 

[Damon_3388]

UFC fans and MMA fans are also new viewers if they previously only watched martial arts.

I really don't get why you think they're going to draw non-wrestling MMA fans, any moreso than any other promotion would.

 

[Senor M]

How about we just wait and see. They've already become well know around the world, so the international market is where there could also be new viewers. UFC fans and MMA fans are also new viewers if they previously only watched martial arts.

If MMA fans haven't been attracted to Professional Wrestling with the cross-over stars of Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey into the WWE--- what makes you think that they will be interested in AEW??

 

[The Casey Cat]

Wrestling is less mainstream than ever, but those that are into it are more passionate and willing and able to spend more than ever (given a large part of the audience is 20-something and 30-something males with disposable income).

I'm still sceptical of AEW doing anything other than spreading thin an already overloaded (in terms of content and viewing options) existing wrestling audience. Yeah, they've got a number of guys on the roster that wrestling diehards will want to see (Darby Allin is a great recent signing, look out for him if you don't know him already). But what exactly are they going to do that will bring new eyes and new money to the business, especially if they going to let the boys book it and run the shows themselves, and are going to run a TV product without any experienced TV production people involved?

You are aware they have signed Jim Ross? He won't just be there for strict play by play. He will have a role in TV production and talent relations. This promotion is backed by the Kahn's and will be on WarnerMedia Entertainment somewhere. They will have issues and challenges. TV production will not be one.

 

[Damon_3388]

You are aware they have signed Jim Ross? He won't just be there for strict play by play. He will have a role in TV production and talent relations. This promotion is backed by the Kahn's and will be on WarnerMedia Entertainment somewhere. They will have issues and challenges. TV production will not be one.

It's moreso the people we don't see on camera or hear about that often that I would have questions over. It takes a lot to put together a TV show with a logical flow and structure. I feel like from what they've spoken about and announced, they are somewhat neglecting this crucial aspect, and it feels like they and others expect it to "just happen". Good wrestling television isn't just about good storylines and a talented roster. It's about camerawork and pacing and editing and direction, just like any other television production. For all the hate he gets, Kevin Dunn has been as vital to WWE's success over the past 20-30 years as anyone else.

I'm happy to take a "wait and see" attitude for now, but I'm not seeing any great "revolution" in the making here, either.

 

[sherrif]

If MMA fans haven't been attracted to Professional Wrestling with the cross-over stars of Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey into the WWE--- what makes you think that they will be interested in AEW??

Because the style of wrestling sounds much more like the 'sports' base product UFC is. Lesnar and Rousy not exactly loved by UFC fans. Either way, the extent to which you bitch and moan about something not even in existance yet is still absurd. How about at least waiting to see what it is like.

 

[Damon_3388]

Because the style of wrestling sounds much more like the 'sports' base product UFC is.

Their product and the talent they are using sounds like a super-charged indy promotion. It's got no more potential difference or appeal to non-wrestling MMA fans than any other promotion outside of WWE.

Either way, the extent to which you bitch and moan about something not even in existance yet is still absurd. How about at least waiting to see what it is like.

I think some people are just seeing beyond the hype and are being realistic.

Yeah, the AEW concept is exciting for die-hard existing pro wrestling fans, and gives performers another place to earn a good paycheque for a while, but it doesn't project as something that will appeal (and perhaps not even last) beyond that. And that's fine if that ends up being the case. Some of us just think the expectations should be tempered. It's realistically unlikely based on what's been said and presented so far that this create any great "revolution" outside of the business, and unlikely that it will spark mainstream interest and bring wrestling to the masses again.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Their product and the talent they are using sounds like a super-charged indy promotion. It's got no more potential difference or appeal to non-wrestling MMA fans than any other promotion outside of WWE.

The difference/appeal is they can offer many, many, many, many times over more $ than other indys can. And as I said above they will be on basic cable and a notable streaming service.