All things Politics

[DinoSoar]

It is recognised that this is a fraught topic for any number of you posting here. Some of you will have family in Israel or Palestine. Some of you will have connections to either side of the conflict. What you need to understand is that this site has rules governing posting standards and the appropriate way to talk to other posters, and you will abide by them.

How this interacts with this thread is that the following will result in your post being deleted, with a recurrence of the same behaviour resulting in (depending on severity) a threadban for a week and a day off:

• direct labelling of someone as anti-semitic or a terrorist sympathiser for posting that is merely critical of Israel's response over time. Israel has the right to defend themselves from violence, but that does not mean that Israel has carte blanche to attack disproportionately towards people under their care.
• deliberate goading or flippant responses, designed to get people reacting to your posting emotionally.
• abuse.
• attempts to turn this into a Left vs Right shitfight.
• Use the word 'Nazi' in here, you had better be able to justify it in the post you're making and the comparison had better be apt. Godwin's law is in full effect for the purposes of this thread; if you refer to Nazis, you've lost whatever argument you're involved in.
• Any defense of Hamas' actions on the basis of justification. There's no justification for genocide, regardless of whether or not they have the power to do so.

Please recognise that this is a difficult time for all involved, and some level of sensitivity is absolutely required to permit discussion to flow. From time to time, mods will reach out to specific posters and do some welfare checks; we may even give posters who get a bit too involved some days off to give people some time to cool down. This is not a reflection on you as a poster, merely that this is an intense subject.

I get that this is a fairly intense topic about which opinion can diverge rather significantly. If you feel you cannot be respectful in your disagreement with another poster, it is frequently better to refuse to engage than it is to take up the call.

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Treat each other with the respect each of you deserve.

Maggie5 Gone Critical Anzacday Jen2310

 

[HeathySure]

Garbage - that last sentence stands on its own.

Who might have a little bit of crazy in her

This is not a sentence.

"She has a little big of crazy in her" is a sentence

 

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Who might have a little bit of crazy in her

This is not a sentence.

"She has a little big of crazy in her" is a sentence

Bullshit - the who was used as a pronoun as was her. Not an elegant piece of prose, but a sentence nonetheless. Like I say the sentence stands on its own. Like you at the footy with no mates.

 

[HeathySure]

Bullshit - the who was used as a pronoun as was her. Not an elegant piece of prose, but a sentence nonetheless. Like I say the sentence stands on its own. Like you at the footy with no mates.

It is only a sentence if it is a question, not a statement. Sorry, back to school for you.

 

[Maggie5]

I wouldn't get too excited if one is thinking this will translate to Vic Labor on Nov 29th.

As even though it is a lot of red, the margins have been cut. However in saying that Mathew Guy has a lot of work ahead of him.



This is class. I wish he had been stronger could have seen him still being PM.

 

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This is class. I wish he had been stronger could have seen him still being PM.

Turnbull is the opposite of class. At least Rudd continues to seek the spotlight by supporting his old party.

 

[Maggie5]

Turnbull is the opposite of class. At least Rudd continues to seek the spotlight by supporting his old party.

Can't stand Rudd!!!!!! Never voted for him or his party during that time.

Egotistical piece of xxxx!

 

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Can't stand Rudd!!!!!! Never voted for him or his party during that time.

Egotistical piece of xxxx!

Not to mention his horrendous lack of upper body strength. It makes me feel warm inside to imagine the temper tantrum he would have had at the staffer who organised this photo op.

 

[gouki88]

Yet the rich dude responsible for buying a few seats for his own benefit denies this, reckons no one was a moderate and Josh was a far right winger…

This is a very sad little cope here Eddie. "Buying a few seats for his own benefit" is adorable.

You were excited about potential "melts" come election night, but you didn't have to provide your own y'know.

 

[Kirby]

Not to mention his horrendous lack of upper body strength. It makes me feel warm inside to imagine the temper tantrum he would have had at the staffer who organised this photo op.

If I had to pick a bloke to fight to save my own life it would be him.

I mean, people would look down on me if I picked a bloke over 70 or a small child.

 

[Black_White]

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I wouldn't get too excited if one is thinking this will translate to Vic Labor on Nov 29th.

As even though it is a lot of red, the margins have been cut. However in saying that Mathew Guy has a lot of work ahead of him.



This is class. I wish he had been stronger could have seen him still being PM.

Might bookmark this one.
Will be interesting if there can be a Teal/greens coordinated attack as we have seen in the last 6 weeks.
There are several things that could disrupt an Andrews victory.
And not one of them is Mathew Guy.

 

[Black_White]

Not to mention his horrendous lack of upper body strength. It makes me feel warm inside to imagine the temper tantrum he would have had at the staffer who organised this photo op.

And yet at the start of the video it says “courtesy of Kevin Rudd”.
Which means not only did he approve the so-called Embarrasing moment”, he supplied the vision!
One thing about Rudd over some other PM’s, he can take the piss.

 

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And yet at the start of the video it says “courtesy of Kevin Rudd”.
Which means not only did he approve the so-called Embarrasing moment”, he supplied the vision!
One thing about Rudd over some other PM’s, he can take the piss.

Guessing there isn’t a pull-up bar in the Cubicle of Courage?


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[stui magpie]

Now Australia gets AnAl

Or, Anthony Norman Albanese, ANAl.

I think Labor is the first party in Australia to win government from opposition with a reduced Primary vote from the previous election.

Lib/Nats lost this. After 9 years in power and 3 different PM's, the party and SloMo were like a sandpaper masturbation glove. Just rubbed people the wrong way. The challenge is now with Labor and Albanese (who frankly has the charisma of a damp dish cloth) to govern in a way that makes more than 33% of people want to put them first on the ballot paper

 

[jathanas]

Or, Anthony Norman Albanese, ANAl.

I think Labor is the first party in Australia to win government from opposition with a reduced Primary vote from the previous election.

Lib/Nats lost this. After 9 years in power and 3 different PM's, the party and SloMo were like a sandpaper masturbation glove. Just rubbed people the wrong way. The challenge is now with Labor and Albanese (who frankly has the charisma of a damp dish cloth) to govern in a way that makes more than 33% of people want to put them first on the ballot paper

"...Anthony Albanese convinced fewer Australians to back Labor’s agenda with their primary vote than Bill Shorten did, but while the 2019 result led to a brutal post-mortem, lots of soul-searching and leadership change, the 2022 result led to a Labor prime minister."

Labor’s primary vote of 33 percent is the party’s lowest since the 1930s.

Many people have tired of politicians in their current flavour and are willing to elect new options to serve e.g. the teals.

The 2 major parties have to accept this new reality and transform accordingly. I hope the current regime will offer more than rhetoric and spin about the environment and the economy. They won't have to do much to better the previous mob but they ought to do much more.

Why Coalition and Labor may never win back the seats they lost

These monumental shifts in how Australians vote aren’t just a short-term “protest”. They reflect a growing detachment among millions of Australians from politics as usual.

www.theage.com.au

 

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"...Anthony Albanese convinced fewer Australians to back Labor’s agenda with their primary vote than Bill Shorten did, but while the 2019 result led to a brutal post-mortem, lots of soul-searching and leadership change, the 2022 result led to a Labor prime minister."

Labor’s primary vote of 33 percent is the party’s lowest since the 1930s.

Many people have tired of politicians in their current flavour and are willing to elect new options to serve e.g. the teals.

The 2 major parties have to accept this new reality and transform accordingly. I hope the current regime will offer more than rhetoric and spin about the environment and the economy. They won't have to do much to better the previous mob but they ought to do much more.

Why Coalition and Labor may never win back the seats they lost

These monumental shifts in how Australians vote aren’t just a short-term “protest”. They reflect a growing detachment among millions of Australians from politics as usual.

www.theage.com.au

It'll be interesting to see whether the Teals actually achieve much over the next three years.

Other than making inner-city Range Rover driving Lululemon-clad voters feel like they have done something for the environment.

 

[Maggie5]

It'll be interesting to see whether the Teals actually achieve much over the next three years.

Other than making inner-city Range Rover driving Lululemon-clad voters feel like they have done something for the environment.

Kathy McGowan was a good Independent and certainly influenced policy. If we give the major parties three years, I am happy to see how they go.

Their two policies of a federal ICAC (have no idea why Morrison didn't do that one) and Climate change would have been in my top 5 priorities.

Maybe they are closet Labor/Liberal, time will tell but it will be good if we can achieve those two things and bring back some civility and honesty into politics. Maybe dreaming but I am hopeful.

They seem like intelligent, straight talking people so that is a good start.

 

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Kathy McGowan was a good Independent and certainly influenced policy. If we give the major parties three years, I am happy to see how they go.

Their two policies of a federal ICAC (have no idea why Morrison didn't do that one) and Climate change would have been in my top 5 priorities.

Maybe they are closet Labor/Liberal, time will tell but it will be good if we can achieve those two things and bring back some civility and honesty into politics. Maybe dreaming but I am hopeful.

They seem like intelligent, straight talking people so that is a good start.

ICAC (agree not sure why it wasn't done) will be the ALP's baby. Or at least it'll be seen that way. Guess how much influence they exert on climate policies will be their key measure.

As to the intelligent straight talking, well let's see how that translates into policy. Any reasonable person is "pro-climate", "pro-integrity" and "pro-gender equality".

 

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Good to see Biden telling Albanese it's ok if he falls asleep. That's coming from an expert.

 

[JB1975]

Some men look at reality and set themselves to changing the state of things.

Some men look at reality and despair and say it is all too hard.

Some men don't look at reality at all, because it where's the fun in that, and isn't 'reality' just for people attached to a matrix?

Here Tweets Craig Kelly: the stupidest dumb-dumb head to have ever befouled the halls of Parliament.

 

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Some men look at reality and set themselves to changing the state of things.

Some men look at reality and despair and say it is all too hard.

Some men don't look at reality at all, because it where's the fun in that, and isn't 'reality' just for people attached to a matrix?

Here Tweets Craig Kelly: the stupidest dumb-dumb head to have ever befouled the halls of Parliament.

Do not despair. No plan survives first contact with the enemy. Craig's great unfinished work might be completed by another. I have just become aware of a certain fellow called Ralph Babet.

 

[JB1975]

Do not despair. No plan survives first contact with the enemy. Craig's great unfinished work might be completed by another. I have just become aware of a certain fellow called Ralph Babet.

I'll keep an eye on his work. Shows promise.

Ralph Babet believed that the 2022 federal election was going to be rigged. The United Australia Party candidate changed his tune when it became likely that he would become Victoria’s newest senator.

Meet Ralph Babet: conspiracy theorist, anti-lockdown advocate and Victoria's UAP senator

Babet has been quick to wipe clean his social media history, which displayed right-wing views and conspiracy theories.

www.crikey.com.au

A real estate agent who peddles global conspiracy theories, who believes that drinking blood is a 'new trend' of the left (been around for a while, actually), and who now scrubs his social media accounts in a vain effort to seem respectable.

I f****** love it!

 

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I'll keep an eye on his work. Shows promise.

Ralph Babet believed that the 2022 federal election was going to be rigged. The United Australia Party candidate changed his tune when it became likely that he would become Victoria’s newest senator.

Meet Ralph Babet: conspiracy theorist, anti-lockdown advocate and Victoria's UAP senator

Babet has been quick to wipe clean his social media history, which displayed right-wing views and conspiracy theories.

www.crikey.com.au

A real estate agent who peddles global conspiracy theories, who believes that drinking blood is a 'new trend' of the left (been around for a while, actually), and who now scrubs his social media accounts in a vain effort to seem respectable.

I f****** love it!

Look, he's no Ricky Muir, but I will give him a chance.

 

[jathanas]

... Lululemon-clad voters feel like they have done something for the environment.

I feel attacked.

 

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I feel attacked.

You're even worse. You ever thought about what damage your over-use of after shave has done to the ozone layer?

 

[Good Horse]

Look, you had your big win, well done and all that, but spare a thought for some of the little people in the community. For the first time in my life I live in an electorate which voted in a Labor candidate. Who might have a little bit of crazy in her.

There is all this PC woke talk about creating "safe spaces". Well that was what my electorate was meant to be for sensitive souls who only really care about themselves!

No street sweepers picking up leaves this morning. They come twice a week at this time of year, but always on a Monday morning. Not today. The world has changed.

I'm kind of tickled my old seat of Higgins has gone labor, but would have preferred it to go green. After all my old state seat in Prahran managed it. The idea of Toorak being represented by the Greens is too delicious not to hope for.