Mega Thread All things Tony Abbott

Who will be the next Prime Minister of Australia

  • Malcolm Turnbull

  • Julie Bishop

  • Scott Morrison

  • Andrew Robb

  • Someone from the LIberal Party other than those above

  • Bill Shorten

  • Someone from the Labor Party other than Shorten


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pokerspiv

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So you need to look at it on a law by law basis & decide if the majority are better for it. Surely that is the best test?
Or you could just let people decide how to run their own lives and stop trying to guess what is best for "the majority", and then legislate that everyone does that.

People are different. There is no 1 best answer for everyone, and the people trying to make these decisions for us are quite often not qualified to do so. For example, I find it quite ridiculous that I am supposed to take eating tips from Nicola Roxon.
 

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Oh pokerspiv, really?
You were the one that grand standed about the ALP bringing in 'nanny state' policies. You are the one that refuses to accept that your beloved LNP are just as bad as the other mob at promoting 'nanny state' policies. Many examples have been adduced for your benefit.
Thanks for making my point for me.

I know you find it hard to follow these threads, but that was exactly the point I was making. The ALP are no better than the Liberals on these kinds of issues. Yet the Liberals are clearly better from a libertarian point of view on questions of economic regulation.

So why would a libertarian support Labor?
 

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Thanks for making my point for me.

I know you find it hard to follow these threads, but that was exactly the point I was making. The ALP are no better than the Liberals on these kinds of issues. Yet the Liberals are clearly better from a libertarian point of view on questions of economic regulation.

So why would a libertarian support Labor?
Clearly better???
Based on what?
 

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Shows how soft and wasteful you are then.
may be your right

or may be I subscribe to the view people judge you, in a first impression, by how you look. Not to mention, if I am going to bother wearing a shirt I will wear it properly.

So is it wasteful to blow opportunities because people judge you as lazy and no pride? Is it wasteful to earn less than you deserve? Is it wasteful to buy a shirt and no get the most out of it? or is it wasteful to turn on an iron and lose 2 minutes of your life?

oh, being in my early 40s I will give you the soft jibe. you're probably right.



so here is a tip kids. iron your shirt, wash your hair and be good to your mum. oh and ice-wolf wear clean underwear, you will find life is far more enjoyable with clean underwear.
 

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Indeed.

Would it surprise you if a bit of fibbing was going on here among the boyz?
Definitely not lying. Why would I need to lie about something like that? Drip drying works just as well as an Iron would. My grand mother used to iron all the time when I was a kid but she was the only one that did.
 

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Indeed.

Would it surprise you if a bit of fibbing was going on here among the boyz?
In this case, I think they are serious.

You would be surprised how many families don't take any pride in personal hygiene or their appearance. Then they are surprised when they aren't received by other well.


I'm sure we have all experienced a situation where someone walks up and they have that wet too long clothes smell or their hair is unwashed or not brushed etc etc. I do question what their mum's and dad's taught them growing up or whether they disrespect their parent's so much that they ignore her advice.

Regardless of the reason, life is just going to be that much harder than it need be.
 

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Definitely not lying. Why would I need to lie about something like that? Drip drying works just as well as an Iron would. My grand mother used to iron all the time when I was a kid but she was the only one that did.
yep

I guess it depends on the shirt and the purpose. I trust by shirt it is not a business shirt rather a more casual thing?
 

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Or you could just let people decide how to run their own lives and stop trying to guess what is best for "the majority", and then legislate that everyone does that.

People are different. There is no 1 best answer for everyone, and the people trying to make these decisions for us are quite often not qualified to do so. For example, I find it quite ridiculous that I am supposed to take eating tips from Nicola Roxon.
So you don't like how Labor legislated to force you to do things you didn't want to do when people should be given free choice. So the best example you can come up with is a website providing health information that you're perfectly free to ignore?
 

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Definitely not lying. Why would I need to lie about something like that? Drip drying works just as well as an Iron would. My grand mother used to iron all the time when I was a kid but she was the only one that did.
Even so, ordinarily there would always be an iron in a household for special jobs or emergencies. Personally have never come across a household without an iron particularly if there's a mother and sisters and a male parent who needs business shirts. But as Power Raid comments I suppose there are plenty of households these days where personal appearances don't count for much.

btw drip drying, while convenient, doesn't do as well as a good iron.
 

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yep

I guess it depends on the shirt and the purpose. I trust by shirt it is not a business shirt rather a more casual thing?
Actually textiles have made enormous advances in the last 20 years (I do iron almost everything though) and Australia was one of the leaders before the industry died.

However leaving aside speedos and ironing, I do have a serious question (non biased) and that is the supposed savings on the carbon tax repeal.

I must admit I haven't seen any real price drops in my gas and electricity. For some reason, my electricity supplier charged me then the amount was credited back (Momentum) not sure what plan I was on. The cost was about $13.00 which I didn't mind anyway. Having had a full gas account, haven't really noticed any real change there based on usage.

Can you (or anyone else) tell me who has benefited from this repeal and where the consumer has benefited? I haven't noticed any drop in prices at supermarkets, butcher, local bakery, clothing, whitegoods etc. So given that it raised 6 Billion and it also reduced emissions, who benefited and where did it the savings flow on to?

Seems to me that the money it generated would have come in quite handy.
 

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I'm not sure how this is relevant to the whole thread, but I will grant you the PM always has immaculate creases on his shirt. That, sadly is probably one the better features of his time in government. Credlin obviously wields a mean iron.
 

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Actually textiles have made enormous advances in the last 20 years (I do iron almost everything though) and Australia was one of the leaders before the industry died.

Of course you would iron almost everything being of my era.
But so does my daughter - who irons for herself.
My son irons for himself but his partner irons for the children when its needed.


I must admit I haven't seen any real price drops in my gas and electricity. For some reason, my electricity supplier charged me then the amount was credited back (Momentum) not sure what plan I was on. The cost was about $13.00 which I didn't mind anyway. Having had a full gas account, haven't really noticed any real change there based on usage.
Maggie I don't know why you expected a reduction from Momentum? Momentum made a great marketing play spruiking that it would not charge the carbon tax at all because its energy is result of Tasmanian hydro. My financial planner put me onto it in the run up to the carbon tax coming in.
Have you forgotten this so soon?
 

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I'm not sure how this is relevant to the whole thread, but I will grant you the PM always has immaculate creases on his shirt. That, sadly is probably one the better features of his time in government. Credlin obviously wields a mean iron.
What sort of iron to use would be the first item of the day for Tones household.

A very good subject for Jane to bring up .:thumbsu:
 

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So ironed shirt*>unironed shirt and be nice to your mum, it's taken two or three pages but we've found two things we can all agree on. Now about the PM?


*Only if it's cotton or linen though
 
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