All time One Day XI- Australia

[Bomber Bears]

On what I've seen (95 onwards)

M Waugh
Gilchrist
Ponting
Hussey
S Waugh
Bevan
Symonds
Lee
Warne
Gillespie
McGrath

Batting order debatable.

Cant really judge on what I havent watched.

Anyone who doesnt have Brett Lee is somewhat wrong however. Forget his test performances, his One Day record is supurb.

 

[tomemy]

On what I've seen (95 onwards)

Anyone who doesnt have Brett Lee is somewhat wrong however. Forget his test performances, his One Day record is supurb.

The best way to judge the effectiveness of One Day bowlers is there economy rate, you would rather chase 0/250 than 2/251.
Brett Lees record is brilliant but the econ. rate of 4.7 is shocking when compared to Lillees 3.5 or McGraths 3.8 or even McDermotts 4.

 

[Bombertastic]

A. Gilchrist
M. Waugh
D. Jones
R. Ponting
M. Hussey
M. Beven
A. Symonds
S.Warne
B.Lee
D.Lillee
G.McGrath
12th man N. Bracken

 

[Wicked Lester]

The best way to judge the effectiveness of One Day bowlers is there economy rate, you would rather chase 0/250 than 2/251.
Brett Lees record is brilliant but the econ. rate of 4.7 is shocking when compared to Lillees 3.5 or McGraths 3.8 or even McDermotts 4.

I don't disagree with the point you're making but Lillee s probably a poor example to use in there. When he played one day cricket a decent score was 180-240.

250 was regarded as a really tough ask for a team batting second.

There was just a different mindset to how the game was played.

My point is, for batsmen and bowlers up to about the mid 80's you have to scale things a little differently to make comparisons. That's the reason I regard G Chappell's record as a standout. An average of 40 and strike rate of 75 back then is probably the equivalent of around 45-47 and 80-85 now.

 

[rubbers0ul]

Gilchrist
M.Waugh
Jones
Ponting
G.Chappell
Symonds
Hussey
Warne
Lee
Lilliee
McGrath

 

[Bomber Bears]

The best way to judge the effectiveness of One Day bowlers is there economy rate, you would rather chase 0/250 than 2/251.
Brett Lees record is brilliant but the econ. rate of 4.7 is shocking when compared to Lillees 3.5 or McGraths 3.8 or even McDermotts 4.

Poor anaology because of the way run rate exploded after about 96. you watch early 90's ODI cricket (eg Aus vs Saf vs NZ 93/94) and a good score is 200-220, they got to 250 once. Of course economy rates were much lower then.

These days 250 is rarely enough, and it's become expected that 300 will be hit just about. In the same way a good strike rate went from 70-75 to at least or more, you have to make allowances in a good economy rate because they are looking to hit you more often, which is why going at an econ of 4 or so from Mcdermott would probably be much higher now.

McGrath is the obvious freak here, but he's one of the few quicks to have an elite average and economy rate in test and ODI cricket in an era of road, thicker bats and faster scoring. The guy is a legend. An economy rate of 4.7 for Lee, however, is not terrible and when you average 23 and strike at 29 you're a damn good bowler. Obviously the fact that much of his career was with McGrath helped alot.

 

[PaPaGeorGeo]

Andrew Symonds has to be in side, averaged almost 40 with the bat. Can bowl medium pace or off spin. That's without mentioning his fielding, one of the greatest all round fielders ever, safe hands, a freak of an athlete, and a throwing arm as good as any.

 

[harry45]

This is from what ive seen (2004 onwards)
1.Gilchrist +VC
2.Hayden
3.Ponting C
4.Clarke
5.Symonds (all rounder)
6.Hussey
7.Watson (all rounder)
8.Lee
9.Hogg
10.Bracken
11.McGrath