List Mgmt. All Trades and Draft Part 2- Draft edition

[mattyc75]

Who are the projected sliders this year? Will we have a chance on any of them or will they be snapped up by the time 52 comes round? And won't 52 drop a few places after nga?

I'd go riley garcia, was killing it before injuring his knee at the champs.we wont need him to play straight away.
Other options would be chad warner. Ultra professional inside mid with limited upside and jaxon prior whos a good sized outside runner

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[mattyc75]

Isn't Harley Bennell the reason Tim Kelly wouldn't consider the Dockers last year? I thought the Kelly's and Bennell's hated each other?!!

Apparently they follow each other on Instagram so unlikely.seemed like a poorly researched article that said that

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[Fyfster]

Isn't Harley Bennell the reason Tim Kelly wouldn't consider the Dockers last year? I thought the Kelly's and Bennell's hated each other?!!

A member of the Kelly family has apparently said on social media that it is BS.

 

[Bender_]

Riddle me this, how do we replace the current de-listings with only a single pick ?

Clubs get unlimited picks, it's the order that's the issue. Come the tail end of the draft, you can just keep picking if you wish - dependent on list spots available obviously.

 

[Dark Sharks]

#saveharley

Throw him a rookie lifeline, if he steps a toe out of line cut the spud, nimble it and move on.

Either that or Give Fraser a 9th season. Both are full proof plans.

 

[Obeanie1]

Hopefully our recruiters are scouring the Widgiemooltha B Grade for the next Judd. With pick 52 and 64 we're going to need to find a real diamond in the rough. Maybe we could draft Sokol before he makes his way east and becomes a star. Sam Murray from Collingwood, who no-one seems to want might be a prospect. Do the reverse Richmond, take a bad boy from the east coast and convert him.

Funny you should mention Murray and Richmond.

IMO that i s where he will end up. Tigers do not care about shady history just good footballers. A decent Houli replacement who is 31 turning 32 I recall.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

We won't and shouldn't draft Bennell.

Has played 2 games over last 4 seasons, even if he can get back on the park regularly in 2020, the amount of footy he has missed makes him an unlikely candidate to slot into our b22 in 2020. At 27, you'd only be bringing him in if he was a genuine chance to play seniors. You don't invest time to "develop" a 27 year old.

Add to that his history of drug use and other documented off field behavioral issues, I don't see him fitting in with our blokes (or corporate image following the Rioli stuff).

 

[Spange]

The good news about getting the Kelly trade done early is now I do not need to visit the AFL website and read the crap that is put up.

I'd throw Harley a lifeline. With a different set of medicos at West Coast they may find some success in getting him on the park. The guy is a freak of nature when fit.

In a professional club like West Coast who knows what could unfurl!

 

[Keys]

Re the players taking a pay cut to fit Kelly in - I can see how his comments might be interpreted that way but it’s incorrect. Poor Kane Cornes was struggling to comprehend how we could be under the cap and asked Vozzo about it implying that we’d need to trade someone like Gaff out. Vozzo responded that we had a number of senior players taking less than their worth for the good of the club without linking that to Kelly. So like the Geelong and hawthorn teams of recent times and probably Richmond now as well we have players happy to take less to chase team success

As far as trading a player out - a common theme yesterday from Simpson and Vozzo when discussing the Kelly trade was our desire to keep our playing list together. So we if weren’t interested in trading someone to help get Kelly, we aren’t now going to backflip and push a required player out the door

Say what you like about Vozzo being a soft touch when negotiating trades but during his time at the club, firstly as list manager and now football manager, he’s done a remarkable job of retaining players and managing our salary cap. Scott Selwood and Scott Lycett (must be the name) are the only two required players we’ve lost to other clubs during this time that I can recall. Maybe Matt Rosa as well although he was borderline when he left

 

[Spange]

We won't and shouldn't draft Bennell.

Has played 2 games over last 4 seasons, even if he can get back on the park regularly in 2020, the amount of footy he has missed makes him an unlikely candidate to slot into our b22 in 2020. At 27, you'd only be bringing him in if he was a genuine chance to play seniors. You don't invest time to "develop" a 27 year old.

Add to that his history of drug use and other documented off field behavioral issues, I don't see him fitting in with our blokes (or corporate image following the Rioli stuff).

Marlion Pickett was picked up after serving 2.5 years in jail and now he's the FAP story of the decade. We would seen as trying to help a player not trying to avoid tarnishing our name. People will always criticise the WCE for past player indiscretions but fact of the matter is other clubs have had far worse mishaps than us

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I would call their negotiating weak, absolutely.

They absolutely were committed to get Kelly back, so they are men of their word.

But this is a deal, it's business and if this were a company investing in assets, shareholders would not be impressed with the capital outlayed as the return on investment is capped

I kind of agree with you. It does look like a weak effort on it's face. But i am cognizant that there may be things that we don't yet know about that caused them to give Geelong everything they wanted and even more than what Freo had offered. I am trying to think what that might be. But if things were the way they seemed to be from the outside then, yeah, it was a weak effort.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

We won’t pick up Bolton I don’t think. Word is he’s a massive figjam and other clubs have passed over him due to this.

 

[Keys]

Isn't Harley Bennell the reason Tim Kelly wouldn't consider the Dockers last year? I thought the Kelly's and Bennell's hated each other?!!

Lots of stuff about why Kelly didn’t want to go to Fremantle- Lyon, the Hill brothers yada yada yada and the Bennell one was written in an article by David Prestopino in the Age. His stuff over the last few days on the Kelly trade has been pathetic so take that with a grain of salt.

We showed an interest in Kelly going back years at a time when Fremantle among other clubs showed none. That’s why Kelly wanted to come to the Eagles, nothing to do with specific people at Fremantle

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Well I’ve woken up super happy.

Rather have a known TK in the Wings, then a bunch of unknowns

But thats just me.

2020/21 looking goooooood

in the same boat biggie. kelly is goingto improve us significantly. gaff in mastens role. kelly in

if only willie didnt **** up, why willie why

 

[Ok Boomer]

Bennell has been at two amateur clubs so you could argue he hasn't had a proper go.

 

[Chris_6678]

100% no to Harley.

 

[Forward Press]

Harley Bennell? Gee, I know the Kelly trade has caused some here to panic but let's not break out the crisis scenarios shall we?

No way, not even on the rookie list. Risk is way too great for the potential payoff.

 

[Forward Press]

I kind of agree with you. It does look like a weak effort on it's face. But i am cognizant that there may be things that we don't yet know about that caused them to give Geelong everything they wanted and even more than what Freo had offered. I am trying to think what that might be. But if things were the way they seemed to be from the outside then, yeah, it was a weak effort.

The only thing we have to go on, officially, are statements from Kelly, his manager, Vozzo, Wells etc. And they all point to Geelong wanting draft picks, us wanting to get him home with minimum fuss, and wanting to do the best for Kelly and his family. Yeah, we probably paid overs and our recruiting team knew it, but I am sure there are reasons why.

Maybe Geelong threatened to hold off until the last day? Maybe Freo were covertly working to come up with deals to satisfy Geelong? Maybe Kelly was even prepared to re-sign with Geelong if things don't pan out? We cannot be sure, and may never be sure what actually went on behind closed doors.

 

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[Biggie]

if only willie didnt fu** up, why willie why

Yep that’s a real downer. His ability to see shit and hit the target up forward is insane.

Still he is only one soldier, we can cover him.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

If Fremantle couldn't get Bennell on the park for successive games in the 4 years or whatever it was that he was on their list and despite all the expense and effort they went to flying him around the world to get specialists to look at his calfes then what makes anybody on here think our medical department could do any better?

 

[wraglesweb]

Would rather give Brady Grey another go atleast you know he will do everything in his power to better himself and his team !

 

[MrKK]

No the asking price is an inflated price. The price they buyer would ultimately accept is below this.

No, you said previously we paid over the asking price. Seller has a minimum they will accept and the buyer has a maximum they will pay, but neither know the other's limit.

Could we have ultimately paid less for TK? Yes.
Would trying to do that increase the stress on TK and his family in the interim, and risk the deal falling through altogether. Also yes.

 

[Ok Boomer]

Would rather give Brady Grey another go atleast you know he will do everything in his power to better himself and his team !

Not sure what he would offer us at AFL level, but putting him on a McInnes like rookie deal wouldn't be the worst thing for our WAFL side if he is interested.

 

[bombard]

Lots of stuff about why Kelly didn’t want to go to Fremantle- Lyon, the Hill brothers yada yada yada and the Bennell one was written in an article by David Prestopino in the Age. His stuff over the last few days on the Kelly trade has been pathetic so take that with a grain of salt.

We showed an interest in Kelly going back years at a time when Fremantle among other clubs showed none. That’s why Kelly wanted to come to the Eagles, nothing to do with specific people at Fremantle

Also, we're just better.