Another pedophile ring ousted in Hollyweird

[charcoalchicken]

Knowing nothing other than the fact that an accusation has been made?

Goodness, hope you're not due for jury duty any time soon.

I've read into it, read many stories and seen many photos of that director with twinks of questionable age, these types of accusations and charges don't get thrown around willy nilly put two and two together and do a bit of investigating yourself.

I for one will not be seeing this film and I hope it loses a shit load of money.

 

[Gough]

I've read into it, read many stories and seen many photos of that director with twinks of questionable age, these types of accusations and charges don't get thrown around willy nilly put two and two together and do a bit of investigating yourself.

I for one will not be seeing this film and I hope it loses a shit load of money.

Do you know how all of your clothes are made, ever kicked a Sherrin, worn Nikes? Without condoning what may have happened here, child abuse can take on many different forms.

 

[Donners]

I've read into it, read many stories and seen many photos of that director with twinks of questionable age, these types of accusations and charges don't get thrown around willy nilly put two and two together and do a bit of investigating yourself.

I for one will not be seeing this film and I hope it loses a shit load of money.

It would take a fair bit more than some internet research of untested allegations and some photos for me to brand a person a paedophile, even if that were the appropriate term.

 

[Whit3y]

sing when ur winning

 

[Matera92]

Paedophiles are people too.

No they aren't.

 

[Hot Pocket]

Pedo's are blokes who shag kids right?

17 ain't a kid.

Age of conesnet in most countries is like 14. I'd say that's a more realistic description of what is or isn't a child.

Banging a person between 15-17 is still illegal, so don't do it or anything. But it wouldnt make you a pedo, strictly speaking.

 

[MarcusP2]

It would probably make you an ephebophile.

 

[Hot Pocket]

If I don't know what this is, it's probably not a problem.

 

[Donners]

No they aren't.

Sigh.

A paedophile is a person who is attracted to prepubescents. They didn't get to choose that attraction, any more than others can choose a preference for gender, hair colour, height, weight or any of the other myriad factors in sexual attraction.

Attraction and action are very different things. Not all people who commit offences against children are paedophiles and not all paedophiles commit offences against children.

It's fascinating that people hold such strong views on things they don't understand.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

It would probably make you an ephebophile.

Rubbish. I eat plenty of avocado.

 

[bkozican]

I'm pretty sure, down south in America the consent age is pretty low.
You hear it all the time but nothing in the world surprises me anymore

 

[Hot Pocket]

Brazil it's like 12.

 

[Catastic82]

Sigh.

A paedophile is a person who is attracted to prepubescents. They didn't get to choose that attraction, any more than others can choose a preference for gender, hair colour, height, weight or any of the other myriad factors in sexual attraction.

Attraction and action are very different things. Not all people who commit offences against children are paedophiles and not all paedophiles commit offences against children.

It's fascinating that people hold such strong views on things they don't understand.

Try explaining that to the victim and their family you scum

 

[Donners]

Try explaining that to the victim and their family you scum

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, I take it.

My point was that the term, used in its correct form, includes people who do not commit offences. Accordingly, there is no victim in those cases.

 

[Catastic82]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, I take it.

My point was that the term, used in its correct form, includes people who do not commit offences. Accordingly, there is no victim in those cases.

They aren't people so my point stands , people like you that tries to justify their sick obsession are no better .

Being a victim of child abuse I can't stand the sick justification that they are born that way and can't help themselves a abusing kids.

It's a weak cop out to deflect responsibilities for their abhorrent behaviour.

 

[Donners]

They aren't people so my point stands , people like you that tries to justify their sick obsession are no better .

Being a victim of child abuse I can't stand the sick justification that they are born that way and can't help themselves a abusing kids.

It's a weak cop out to deflect responsibilities for their abhorrent behaviour.

But you see, that's exactly what I said.

"Attraction and action are very different things"

I agree with you entirely, the attraction does not excuse the action.

The point I am trying to make is that the term paedophile is used interchangeably with child sex offender. The two are not the same. The former is the attraction, the latter is the action.

The latter is repugnant, and rightly condemned by society. The former is an unfortunate curse of nature.

 

[Catastic82]

Curse of nature yeah right

 

[Thrawn]

Try explaining that to the victim and their family you scum

So he's a scumbag for pointing out to you the difference between two terms? Right.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

He is a pedo-lover and should be burned at the stake.

 

[Hot Pocket]

What about non pedo's who commit sexual assaults on kids for other reasons? Is pedo a term based on action or motive?

If someone is attracted to kids, but never act on it - much like a closeted gay man such as our current PM - is he still a pedo?

Likewise, if someone isn't attracted to kids, but rapes one anyway for another reason (intoxication, revenge etc) are they still a pedo?

Fascinating discussion.

 

[skilts]

He is a pedo-lover and should be burned at the stake.

You are just trying to deflect attention from a real crime, burning the steak.

They aren't people so my point stands , people like you that tries to justify their sick obsession are no better .

Being a victim of child abuse I can't stand the sick justification that they are born that way and can't help themselves a abusing kids.

It's a weak cop out to deflect responsibilities for their abhorrent behaviour.

Do such outbursts of uncontrolled anger make you feel better? If so, how sad. If not, I wonder why you would bother doing it.

 

[Donners]

What about non pedo's who commit sexual assaults on kids for other reasons? Is pedo a term based on action or motive?

It can be both, but they can also be mutually exclusive.

As I recall, the DSM criteria covers fantasies, urges OR behaviours for a period of six months or more.

So a person who commits a one-off or short-term offence without a prior history of attraction to pre-pubescent person wouldn't meet the criteria, but a person who did have the fantasies but never acted on them would.

It is quite unusual to have an actual diagnosed paedophile in the justice system, though that may be a product of a system which lets defence cherry-pick their psychiatric reports and also a result of minimisation from the offender in assessments. The real problems are those who have both the urges and a mental illness or substance abuse issue - with their inhibitions limited, they are a serious threat. Thankfully such people are few, but those few do a lot of damage.

 

[Catastic82]

You are just trying to deflect attention from a real crime, burning the steak.


Do such outbursts of uncontrolled anger make you feel better? If so, how sad. If not, I wonder why you would bother doing it.

The justification that pedo can't help their attraction because they are born with is extremely weak, so that's why I have a passionate view about it.

Now if I can just work out to put you on ignore it'll make my time on bigfooty better.

 

[skilts]

The justification that pedo can't help their attraction because they are born with is extremely weak, so that's why I have a passionate view about it.

Now if I can just work out to put you on ignore it'll make my time on bigfooty better.

It seems I have made you feel uncomfortable. I'm not quite sure though. Your anger makes your musings unintelligible.

Please don't ignore me, I'm just beginning to enjoy this.

 

[Hot Pocket]

The justification that pedo can't help their attraction because they are born with is extremely weak, so that's why I have a passionate view about it.

Now if I can just work out to put you on ignore it'll make my time on bigfooty better.

I'm not sure about that. It would make logical sense that they are born with that attraction. If you (or I, or anyone) didn't choose who you were attracted to, why would it be different for pedophiles?

Let's say it is completely a choice they make, as you suggest. Why would anyone want to make that choice to be attracted to children and become a complete social pariah and indeed risk their health were they to act on their decision? It is the opposite of logical.

It can be both, but they can also be mutually exclusive.

As I recall, the DSM criteria covers fantasies, urges OR behaviours for a period of six months or more.

So a person who commits a one-off or short-term offence without a prior history of attraction to pre-pubescent person wouldn't meet the criteria, but a person who did have the fantasies but never acted on them would.

It is quite unusual to have an actual diagnosed paedophile in the justice system, though that may be a product of a system which lets defence cherry-pick their psychiatric reports and also a result of minimisation from the offender in assessments. The real problems are those who have both the urges and a mental illness or substance abuse issue - with their inhibitions limited, they are a serious threat. Thankfully such people are few, but those few do a lot of damage.

It isn't a crime to be a pedophile though is it? The crime is assaulting a minor or something right?

It is truly ****ed up behaviour no doubt but its always struck me as the modern day boogeyman in a lot of ways, because it isn't as widespread as the media would have people believe - and it gives people who are not in any way related to these crimes an avenue to vent their most violent thoughts without any repercussions i.e. there is literally nothing you can say about what you would do to a pedophile, that society at large won't tolerate.

If I was ever going to murder someone for kicks, it would definitely be a pedophile (ideally a muslim) because I would probably have such insane levels of public support that no judge in the country would convict me. Its kind of crazy how society allows such abhorrent behaviour (not pedophilia, which is also disgusting but obviously not tolerated or allowed) when it comes to "bad guys". I guess if you only victimise the bad guys, you can never really get in trouble.