Apple Isle Showdown: Tas Govt threatens to end Hawks, North deals if no plan for 19th side

[The_Wookie]

And how exactly did the game survive the depression?
Did the club's get help from any Governing body?
No, they knew there was not any handouts, so they took a responsible approach to their operations.

But, yes, we are far removed from the days of responsibility, for we are in an egalitarian, welfare dependent society. Let's see how it pans out when the crunch comes and money dries up.

Incidentally, 1930 was the first time the league began to regulate payments via the Coulter law, which effectively imposed a salary cap. Wages were initially capped at £3 (roughly the equivalent of $AUD227 in 2013 prices) per minor round game and £12 for a finals match, although players could be paid less.

the league was not fully professional right up until the 90s. Pay and wages were completely different, there wasnt a CBA until like 1997. Broadcast rights werent a thing in the 30s because TV didnt turn up here until the 50s, league central revenues werent there to be distributed early on, being mostly derived from sponsorship, finals ticketing and playing fees.

Clubs DID get assistance via gate sharing, ground improvement and the blockbuster equalisation funds from the late 70's onward.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

I am very much in favour of Tassy team and I expect most folks are.

Quality wise the comp suffers from the thin spread of talent across 18 Teams. Adding one or two more teams will further dilute the comp.

I reckon the way to have a Tas team is to:

* relocate a Melbourne based Club, or
* rebuild the VFA and relegate the lowest placed Melbourne based Club in the first year
* thereafter there would be a promotion relegation system from the VFA to the AFL.

Can't wait for the day when all hell breaks loose on here, when Collingwood gets relegated to the VFA as a result

The club might be much more competitive while playing in the VFA and against teams their own rank like Port Melbourne & Williamstown though

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Can't wait for the day when all hell breaks loose on here, when Collingwood gets relegated to the VFA

It would certainly stop tanking!

Imagine the crowd and telly interest in the VFA GF that determines promotion of a Melbourne Club and the massive crowd and viewers watching the last H&A match to determine which Melbourne Club would go down.

 

[telsor]

It would certainly stop tanking!

Imagine the crowd and telly interest in the VFA GF that determines promotion of a Melbourne Club and the massive crowd and viewers watching the last H&A match to determine which Melbourne Club would go down.

GWS v GC VFL grand finals wouldn't rate that highly.

 

[sherb]

While LW politics is all about spending other peoples money.

Whose money do you think the current government is spending?

 

[Engimal v3]

Relegation will never work. Can't wait until West Coast finishes at the bottom and the majority of WA don't watch the following season. The AFL will love that.

 

[telsor]

Whose money do you think the current government is spending?

Future generations.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Future generations.

 

[Engimal v3]

While LW politics is all about spending other peoples money.

This is a bit of an aside, but I've always found it odd that the Liberals (and associated supporters/parties) always try to spin cutting costs and not investing as positives. If I'm paying taxes, I want it to be spent. I don't want to hear that we have a surplus because we gutted hospitals lol

 

[sherb]

Future generations.

Other peoples'.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

GWS v GC VFL grand finals wouldn't rate that highly.

They would not be in the reconstructed VFA. It would just be the Melbourne teams like a Willi, Werribee, Coburg, Port M, Preston, Dandenong (still loathe them), Box Hill, Sandy, Casey as stand alone clubs plus whichever Melbourne based team was relegated.

 

[telsor]

Other peoples'.

Yes.

 

[telsor]

They would not be in the reconstructed VFA. It would just be the Melbourne teams like a Willi, Werribee, Coburg, Port M, Preston, Dandenong (still loathe them), Box Hill, Sandy, Casey as stand alone clubs plus whichever Melbourne based team was relegated.

So NSW & QLD AFL team's reserves will going back to the NEAFL, which, along with the WAFL & SANFL, will be gutted by the players going to the VFL (which will be fully AFL funded due to the salary cap/contract requirements of relegated teams).

and somehow you think this 'deal' will be approved by the majority of Vic teams.

LOL

 

[telsor]

This is a bit of an aside, but I've always found it odd that the Liberals (and associated supporters/parties) always try to spin cutting costs and not investing as positives. If I'm paying taxes, I want it to be spent. I don't want to hear that we have a surplus because we gutted hospitals lol

I'd rather that once these cuts allow debts to be paid back, taxes get cut and the money can be used/invested by the people who earn it.

 

[Leeda]

Tell us all how much it costs to upgrade and maintain grounds, maybe even build a new ground in Hobart.

The government has to agree to spend, not you.

The average ‘ peasant ‘ doesn’t think of those

Relegation will never work. Can't wait until West Coast finishes at the bottom and the majority of WA don't watch the following season. The AFL will love that.

you must wear short pants...why... you feel no heat...my perception dude..

 

[Tasmanian saint]

If you had an AFL club, the requirements for ground quality (and costs to maintain them to that level) would mean the grounds get used less.

Absolute rubbish

 

[Engimal v3]

The average ‘ peasant ‘ doesn’t think of those

you must wear short pants...why... you feel no heat...my perception dude..

What

 

[telsor]

Absolute rubbish

Oh?

So there are lots of AFL grounds that allow lower grade teams (and their reserves, U18s, etc) to play, train and base out of them?

I know Richmond considered the added cost of ground maintenance of adding VFL and women's teams to their *training* ground.

One reason there aren't more games on the MCG (or Docklands) is that the ground maintenance people consider the wear and tear on those grounds to be at their limits. (and those are some of the most high cost/best maintained turf in the country)

 

[Leeda]

What

Stand by for rubbish explanation...not for your eyes/ears at all ..wandering in the desert...

 

[madmug]

While LW politics is all about spending other peoples money.

Equality of opportunity is where its at.

 

[telsor]

Equality of opportunity is where its at.

Equality of opportunity is fine.

Equality of results is another matter, but that is what socialism aims for.

 

[NoobPie]

Future generations.

Someone has swallowed glib Liberal Party propaganda whole it seems

 

[madmug]

Equality of opportunity is fine.

Equality of results is another matter, but that is what socialism aims for.

Thankfully l Australia isn't a socialist country. Infact I don't know one that conforms to that sort of definition!.

We are a mixed economy. A mixture of private & public to try to get the best of both where possible.

 

[telsor]

Someone has swallowed glib Liberal Party propaganda whole it seems

Nah, both major parties are equally bad, more self serving than anything.

 

[telsor]

Thankfully l Australia isn't a socialist country. Infact I don't know one that conforms to that sort of definition!.

We are a mixed economy. A mixture of private & public to try to get the best of both where possible.

There are quite a number of aspects of Australian society where the results matter more.

Look at anywhere where there are quotas. e.g. QLD police were in the news recently for taking candidates with lower entry scores/standards in order to meet quotas.