Ashes 2015

[eth-dog]

4-0 Australia. Draw in the 3rd test.

 

[drummond2fevola]

6-0 Australia

 

[Milang_Panthers]

Australia 2-1

 

[melbournemartin]

Move to the Best Coast and you only have to stay up to 1am

Or Europe

 

[copthat]

0-0 Australia

 

[Damon_3388]

Serious question - If The Ashes are about "win now", rather than developing for the future, then wouldn't it be logical to pick a bloke who has vast experience and great success in English conditions, eg. Steve Magoffin? Or is it just "assumed" or somehow "known" that he'd somehow not cut it against England in England, despite having success bowling against English players in English conditions?

Magoffin's bowling numbers in the County Championship (all Division One) from 2012-Present - 1,899 overs, 523 maidens, 5,023 runs, 246 wickets (12 5-fers) - 20.42 average, 2.65 economy rate, 46.32 strike rate.

I guess I'm not really strongly arguing that Magoffin deserves to be in ahead of our current Test players, just moreso wondering why these sort of performances (experience and playing to the conditions) rarely seem to see a player come under consideration. If he was putting up those sort of numbers in Sheffield Shield, people would be screaming for him to be in the Test side (or maybe not, purely due to his age).

 

[Costanza_]

Move to the Best Coast and you only have to stay up to 1am

So ****ing jealous. Would be perfect to walk in the door at 5.50 and catch the first ball with that first drink.

 

[melbournemartin]

So ******* jealous. Would be perfect to walk in the door at 5.50 and catch the first ball with that first drink.

If anything, that's better than watching it from Europe...

 

[Hardhat11]

yeah but what's his record as a leg spinner?

My point is

Off spin bowlers rarely dominate test cricket

If you have an average of 30-34 as an offie and can take 4 wickets per game you're actually doing pretty well

He's in that range

 

[Biggie]

Hope we smash these pricks all over the park. Bring it on!

 

[damochandler]

3-0

 

[Nostradumbass]

Be lucky to get a full day here.

 

[happy_eagle]

Serious question - If The Ashes are about "win now", rather than developing for the future, then wouldn't it be logical to pick a bloke who has vast experience and great success in English conditions, eg. Steve Magoffin? Or is it just "assumed" or somehow "known" that he'd somehow not cut it against England in England, despite having success bowling against English players in English conditions?

Magoffin's bowling numbers in the County Championship (all Division One) from 2012-Present - 1,899 overs, 523 maidens, 5,023 runs, 246 wickets (12 5-fers) - 20.42 average, 2.65 economy rate, 46.32 strike rate.

I guess I'm not really strongly arguing that Magoffin deserves to be in ahead of our current Test players, just moreso wondering why these sort of performances (experience and playing to the conditions) rarely seem to see a player come under consideration. If he was putting up those sort of numbers in Sheffield Shield, people would be screaming for him to be in the Test side (or maybe not, purely due to his age).

You have to measure up experience in England against experience at Test Level
Sure its preferred if a player has played on English pictures, but you'd much rather select a bloke that has proven to be test match quality

 

[Damon_3388]

You have to measure up experience in England against experience at Test Level
Sure its preferred if a player has played on English pictures, but you'd much rather select a bloke that has proven to be test match quality

Well if he's playing and bowling well against the best England has to offer in Division One of the County Championship (has been top 5 in wickets taken from every season from 2012-present, including the current one), surely stepping up to play them in Test cricket isn't that much of a jump?

Again, not necessarily saying that Magoffin should be there, just find it odd that it's not even a consideration.

 

[The Speaker]

I cannot bring myself to be interested in this series. Can we go at least a year without playing England?

 

[Damon_3388]

If it's an consolation, Slater was doing his radio show from Brisbane this morning so I highly doubt he'll be there to call the action.

Lol, idiot probably thinks the Ashes are kicking off at the Gabba.

 

[Damon_3388]

I cannot bring myself to be interested in this series. Can we go at least a year without playing England?

Ummm, we have... Last Ashes Test was in January 2014.

 

[The Speaker]

Ummm, we have... Last Ashes Test was in January 2014.

We last played England a matter of months ago.

 

[Damon_3388]

We last played England a matter of months ago.

Yeah, in ODIs.

 

[The Speaker]

Yeah, in ODIs.

Which is a form of cricket.

And thus we have not gone a year without playing England.

 

[Damon_3388]

Which is a form of cricket.

And thus we have not gone a year without playing England.

Well considering this is the Ashes thread, and you were referring to "the series", I assumed you meant Test cricket.

A few random ODIs (that only really served as World Cup warm-ups) don't have anywhere near the importance of the Ashes, either.

 

[peternorth]

Well considering this is the Ashes thread, and you were referring to "the series", I assumed you meant Test cricket.

A few random ODIs (that only really served as World Cup warm-ups) don't have anywhere near the importance of the Ashes, either.

u r not the only one

 

[The Speaker]

Well considering this is the Ashes thread, and you were referring to "the series", I assumed you meant Test cricket.

A few random ODIs (that only really served as World Cup warm-ups) don't have anywhere near the importance of the Ashes, either.

If you say so.

I am expressing my belief that England never seem to disappear, and thus there is no sense of this being an important series.

 

[Colonial]

If you say so.

I am expressing my belief that England never seem to disappear, and thus there is no sense of this being an important series.

Packed grounds and everyone discussing it on social media say otherwise.

Its the bloody Ashes not some sub continent friendly.
Doesnt matter how often its played.

 

[The Speaker]

Packed grounds and everyone discussing it on social media say otherwise.

Its the bloody Ashes not some sub continent friendly.
Doesnt matter how often its played.

It absolutely matters how often it is played.

I'm not saying that I expect others to feel the same way I do. I am simply tired of England. There are so many other nations that could, should be playing cricket at a high standard right now, and here we are playing the old enemy for the millionth time in the past few years.