Ashes 3rd test @ The WACA

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Sylvia Saint

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Bullshit. Voges was far from rubbish. Fantastic shield player who made the most of his opportunities early for Australia. It is not his fault teams like the West Indies were not strong. There have been many worse players than Voges who played test cricket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, rubbish is a strong word, I should have said rubbish under pressure... but regardless but 2nd best average ever? That is so out of place.

The other 'old guy', Chris Rogers averaged somewhere in the 40s, but I think he had a far bigger impact on the test side than Voges did.
 

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M. Marsh is actually looking pretty decent here. He is in good batting form.
Well yeah. He basically didn't play any shield cricket at all during his stint in the test side and picking a bloke in the side when he isn't good enough and doesn't have the time to work on his game is never going to end well.

Still would have preferred he have the whole season for WA before even getting considered but he's improved because he finally got a stint at lower levels.
 

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There have also been many better, ergo why it is painful from a purists perspective to see Voges' average as second only to the Don.

As far as I am concerned, Voges has merely shifted the all-time average threshold from min 30 innings to min 1500 runs.
Of course there have been many better. The comment was made that Voges was rubbish, which is crockshit and made by someone who obviously has no idea.
 

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Good session. Scoring well and quickly reeling in the runs to get a first innings lead. If these two can stay on track for the middle session, I truly believe we could put on a lead of 150 and bowl them out without batting again.
 

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**** I hope Mitch Marsh gets out for a duck egg. Would cap off a fine game by him.

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Thats a bit totalitarian of you.

Hope he falls on his arse personally.
Why? Put the game back up to grabs and seeing Mitch Marsh fail on his arse sounds good to me.
What we want and what we get though.............


I am guessing he does not get past 20.
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Mitch Marsh looking the most comfortable I've seen him batting at test level.

And as I say that he nearly chops the ball on to his stumps.



The English attack back then had maybe one or two decent fast bowlers, the Windies from that era had a plethora of great fast bowlers in Holding, Marshall, Roberts, Garner, Walsh, Bishop and Ambrose with guys like Colin Croft and Patrick Patterson as back up.

There was no easy runs against those guys which is why I rate Allan Border so highly, one of the few guys that could make big scores against them regularly.
They had Larwood, who was a great fast bowler with real genuine speed during bodyline, together with Voce. Facing those guys under bodyline conditions with nearly every fielder on the leg side and averaging 56 was some effort. Batting against it would've been terrifying and brutal. Averaged over 100 against them without bodyline tactics. Bradman had a great eye and quick reflexes, hence he would've been ok against anything the West indies threw at him.
 
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