Autopsy Autopsy vs Adelaide - great effort to finish the season

[FootySmartSimpson]

Right call about Comben. Cant play forward and 1v1 is struggling. Injured shoulders haven't helped and hopefully things will improve for him.

Trembath, Banch and yes even Payne show more effort and commitment that some of our other players and should be given contracts ranging from maybe 3 Trembath, 2 Banch and 1 for Payne. Harvey did some good things also so he should get another 1 year contract also.

Of all our young players FOS will be our best even better than LDU and Sheezel. He doesnt panick, has poise in tight situations, can hold a mark, kick well and has speed.

Players that need to go are those that dont do enough when needed. Logue while he did a couple of things did some terrible things also and should be let go. Corr should not have even been in the side and should also be let go. Powell is a front runner with no defensive bones in his body and Scott just doesnt do enough to keep his spot.

Simpkin ,while he does get possessions is a seagull and doesn't hurt the opposition as much as he should.
The players today did a great job and if we can build on todays performance we will go further next season.

Bit concerning re:Comben. I love him. But he is still a massive liability isolated.

 

[Zondor]

The elephant in the room with Cam is how much better we've looked since he got injured.

He just isn't accountable enough.

His defender runs off him time and again and other sides use that to their advantage.

Banch, JK, Payne, Curtis and even Cooper Harvey have all managed to show up in the oppositions back 50 providing some sort of assistance to our defenders this year but Cam hasn't once that I can remember. I think Sphynx was right. We should have traded him or let him go and got an early second as compo.

So you are justifying your moronic biased views based on one and a bit games. LOL. :stern look

Let’s forget the Richmond game because we all know Zurhaar would’ve kicked multiple goals had he stayed on the park and the result would’ve pretty much been the same. :stern look

How often did Adelaide do us on transition yesterday? So how did the likes of Banch and Payne and Konstanty stop the opposition from scoring goals from transition? Where were these goals scored on turnover by this new and improved forward line? Seeing as we scored the majority of our goals from stoppage. :stern look

Zurhaar is not the issue. :stern look

 

[JUST NORTH]

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If Cam played the game out last week the margin is closer to 70+. Easily.

If he played yesterday, that's less attention to Trembath and PC. Our forward line was such a mess of band aids we had Corr playing in there and Banch presenting down the line lol. FWIW, I have been watching Zurhaar closely and he has improved his defensive pressure and disposal as of late. His set shot also has become a lot better.

Had we played Larkey and Zurhaar, we could be talking about one of the biggest upsets in football history instead of a close losswe started to score heavily when he left the ground injured

when Cam

If Cam played the game out last week the margin is closer to 70+. Easily.

If he played yesterday, that's less attention to Trembath and PC. Our forward line was such a mess of band aids we had Corr playing in there and Banch presenting down the line lol. FWIW, I have been watching Zurhaar closely and he has improved his defensive pressure and disposal as of late. His set shot also has become a lot better.

Had we played Larkey and Zurhaar, we could be talking about one of the biggest upsets in football history instead of a close loss.

So you are justifying your moronic biased views based on one and a bit games. LOL. :stern look

Let’s forget the Richmond game because we all know Zurhaar would’ve kicked multiple goals had he stayed on the park and the result would’ve pretty much been the same. :stern look

How often did Adelaide do us on transition yesterday? So how did the likes of Banch and Payne and Konstanty stop the opposition from scoring goals from transition? Where were these goals scored on turnover by this new and improved forward line? Seeing as we scored the majority of our goals from stoppage. :stern look

Zurhaar is not the issue. :stern look

how many games have they played,the ones you mentioned in the forward line?The mindset of Zurhaar and others are the problem,what is your role when you do not have the ball,he and other senior players have played enough games to know this,but refuse to execute that aspect of the game,and we as a club will not go nowhere until,as in the words of Paul Curtis said in his after match interview,PLAY AS ONE.

 

[franjon]

Not to mention being spat on for barracking for Vic against SA in the state of origin games over there.

Having lived in Adelaide, I don't want to insult New Zealanders, but that's what it's like Australia vs New Zealand. And usually coming from their end.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Interesting off season coming up.

We looked the most damaging going forward today we have in years, against one of the comps best defences.

Caused them all sorts of problems.

Coincided with Larkey and Zurhaar being out of the side, which is the elephant in the room.

Nick is pretty one dimensional, not an aerial threat and often plays from the back shoulder for goals over the top which means teams intercept for fun.

Zurhaar is essentially a medium forward version of Larkey, with 3-4 absolutely boneheaded F50 entries a week.

Both are good on paper, but there’s an argument to be made they don’t work together or one or both are a big reason for the F50 dysfunction. Both are “good players on paper”

Curtis is and will be our #1 forward for the next 10 years. Hes going to be one of the best forwards in the league for the next 10 years. If he isn’t already. He brings a genuine toughness, he’s also retains the ball in the F50 whenever it’s near him.

We need to build the forward line around him and compliment him.

Not having Larkey or Zurhaar pulling rank, meant he could play from the square, was the top dog flying for marks, he didn’t have Zurhaar flying into him, or Nick pulling rank as the focal point. He’s just a much better footballer than both.

A genuine mobile, contested marking tall next to him in Trembath has meant defenders suck to him
and give Curtis more aerial one on ones.


Again, if we were a serious football club there would be some serious discussions about both players this offseason.

I love the fact that PC likes a stoush. He was holding one of their blokes in midair with one arm at one stage. He took that mark that Trembath was paid late so should have had 4 and missed a simple one. Love him.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Both guys are definitely capable of fitting in. But neither has really been held accountable for the last 5 years and they can have lapses in effort with no consequences.

I reckon it will suit Larkey, offensively, to be on the move more. But he can't bring the "I'm just here to kick goals" mindset that we sometimes see.

Agree that both can fit in and we can have all 4 - Larkey, Zuhaar, Pc and Trembath -in the forward line.

However this will take the senior members of this quartet to play a more team based style of play.

The issue is whether they are up to this AND whether Clarko will enforce it.

 

[danj]

Agreed. The coaches need to be utilising Bull and Larkey’s strengths higher up the ground and isolating Trem and PC deep inside 50, preferably with a skillful goal sneak lurking for the scraps.

I don’t know if Batch is this as his work up the ground across HF and the wing is really impressive.

Small forward crumber must be a priority with one of our 20s picks.

Don’t disagree but shouldn’t our top priority be a key defender/s?

 

[lockheed]

Don’t disagree but shouldn’t our top priority be a key defender/s?

Until we get our defensive transition work up to standard, so that taking the ball out of our forward line is no longer looking like a training run, even the best defenders will struggle in our backline

 

[kangafan1993]

Amazing performance to end the season. Watched the game with the young cousins and wasnt on here yesterday due to crashing at theres for most of the day playing games, and i guess spending time with the family. Anways, Xerri put up an amazing performance with 186 ranking points, smashing O Brien, but he still played a solid game and wasn't expecting that due to O' Brien being in good form. The Usual Suspects Sheezel, LDU, Simpkin and Parker did there thing and gosh, Trembath is bloody special. What a pick up!!! McKercher was solid but not as involved and damaging as the recent weeks he has perfomed but credit to the team (aparts from Aidan Corr

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) for trying to finish off the season in a repectful way and it was way above that. Can't wait for next season. GO ROOS!

 

[ferball]

So you are justifying your moronic biased views based on one and a bit games. LOL. :stern look

Let’s forget the Richmond game because we all know Zurhaar would’ve kicked multiple goals had he stayed on the park and the result would’ve pretty much been the same. :stern look

How often did Adelaide do us on transition yesterday? So how did the likes of Banch and Payne and Konstanty stop the opposition from scoring goals from transition? Where were these goals scored on turnover by this new and improved forward line? Seeing as we scored the majority of our goals from stoppage. :stern look

Zurhaar is not the issue. :stern look

What would you know.

He's lazy and doesn't work hard enough but you can't see that cos of the Brady Rawlings shaped cataract in front of your eyes and the worn out dish cloth between your ears.

ps Go **** yourself.

 

[Gasometer]

What would you know.

He's lazy and doesn't work hard enough but you can't see that cos of the Brady Rawlings shaped cataract in front of your eyes and the worn out dish cloth between your ears.

ps Go **** yourself.

Good come back for a moron

 

[danj]

Has anyone else noticed a difference in mentality in the matches sans Luke McDonald, Larkey and for one and a half Zurhaar? I don’t know if you put it down to better leadership without them or that their influence on morale is not wholly positive but there’s definitely an improvement in application especially from the new and younger parade. Maybe Parker is having more influence as a leader without those ‘leaders’ in the side? Either way I think it’s time to thank Luke for his work and retire him, trade Zurhaar for an experienced key defender with upside and reinvent Larkey as a lead up CHF.

Unlike some chicken littles on here I do think we will ‘rocket’ up the ladder next season and be in the 8, all the building blocks are there, an effective preseason and good recruiting/trading in the backline especially and we are set.

It’s going to be very interesting to see where the axe falls on the playing group and even more so on assistant coaches and other staff. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t change our recruitment manager at the very least. Brady will most likely be offered another role rather than ‘retired’ and that’s ok too as long as he does something away from the football department.

 

[Gasometer]

Has anyone else noticed a difference in mentality in the matches sans Luke McDonald, Larkey and for one and a half Zurhaar? I don’t know if you put it down to better leadership without them or that their influence on morale is not wholly positive but there’s definitely an improvement in application especially from the new and younger parade. Maybe Parker is having more influence as a leader without those ‘leaders’ in the side? Either way I think it’s time to thank Luke for his work and retire him, trade Zurhaar for an experienced key defender with upside and reinvent Larkey as a leader without those up CHF.

Unlike some chicken littles on here I do think we will ‘rocket’ up the ladder next season and be in the 8, all the building blocks are there, an effective preseason and good recruiting/trading in the backline especially and we are set.

It’s going to be very interesting to see where the axe falls on the playing group and even more so on assistant coaches and other staff. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t change our recruitment manager at the very least. Brady will most likely be offered another role rather than ‘retired’ and that’s ok too as long as he does something away from the football department.

Yep there’s something not quite right there

Is it because the Juniors just throw caution to the wind? Like would Trembath really be leaping into packs with sooky Larkey there as well.

Anyway I’d keep Bull

Bull Darling Curtis
Trembath Larkey ?????

That’s a fair mix of potential there

 

[danj]

So you are justifying your moronic biased views based on one and a bit games. LOL. :stern look

Let’s forget the Richmond game because we all know Zurhaar would’ve kicked multiple goals had he stayed on the park and the result would’ve pretty much been the same. :stern look

How often did Adelaide do us on transition yesterday? So how did the likes of Banch and Payne and Konstanty stop the opposition from scoring goals from transition? Where were these goals scored on turnover by this new and improved forward line? Seeing as we scored the majority of our goals from stoppage. :stern look

Zurhaar is not the issue. :stern look

Dude you can run the moronic meter over any number of posters here but I can assure you having met him in person ferball does not register.

Why not refrain from personal slagging of our own posters and save it for *, hawks, port and the dickheads on other teams boards?

 

[ferball]

Yep there’s something not quite right there

Is it because the Juniors just throw caution to the wind? Like would Trembath really be leaping into packs with sooky Larkey there as well.

Anyway I’d keep Bull

All he has to do is work harder and show the same intensity and determination he showed in his early years and he'll be so much better for the side.

 

[zoomba23]

Has anyone else noticed a difference in mentality in the matches sans Luke McDonald, Larkey and for one and a half Zurhaar? I don’t know if you put it down to better leadership without them or that their influence on morale is not wholly positive but there’s definitely an improvement in application especially from the new and younger parade. Maybe Parker is having more influence as a leader without those ‘leaders’ in the side? Either way I think it’s time to thank Luke for his work and retire him, trade Zurhaar for an experienced key defender with upside and reinvent Larkey as a lead up CHF.

Unlike some chicken littles on here I do think we will ‘rocket’ up the ladder next season and be in the 8, all the building blocks are there, an effective preseason and good recruiting/trading in the backline especially and we are set.

It’s going to be very interesting to see where the axe falls on the playing group and even more so on assistant coaches and other staff. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t change our recruitment manager at the very least. Brady will most likely be offered another role rather than ‘retired’ and that’s ok too as long as he does something away from the football department.

You reckon we've got the guts to retire LMac and trade Zurhaar? That would be an insanely left-field decision from an organisation that bangs on about stability.

I agree about the elephant in the room, but can't see us addressing it in that way

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

You reckon we've got the guts to retire LMac and trade Zurhaar? That would be an insanely left-field decision from an organisation that bangs on about stability.

I agree about the elephant in the room, but can't see us addressing it in that way

It could be coincidental, but without those three career failures in the side the synergy looks better.

 

[Ocha905]

**** off North, I was looking forward to not paying attention in the offseason. Now I'm hopeful of finishing 13th in 2026. Goddammit.

X, Curtis, Sheezel and maybe Trembath is he doesn't get Norfed is enough to watch with a modicum of intrigue.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Just watching the replay:

Logue - never again.

And f*ck off Gerard Healy.

 

[Souup]

...
How often did Adelaide do us on transition yesterday? So how did the likes of Banch and Payne and Konstanty stop the opposition from scoring goals from transition? Where were these goals scored on turnover by this new and improved forward line? Seeing as we scored the majority of our goals from stoppage. :stern look

Zurhaar is not the issue. :stern look

You can't just isolate the scores from stoppage vs. scores from turnover stats to determine the effectiveness of a forward line. Who causes those stoppages in the front half?

The better stat to use is that we scored 53 points from the forward half yesterday and 65 last week against Richmond - we averaged 35.8 scores from forward half over the season.

Since the bye (ignoring the last 2 games which I've listed above) we had 38, 35, 9, 25, 25, 17, 22, 51, 31 and 36 scores from forward half.

There were other games this season where there was a spike in forward half score, like Port in Round 7 where we scored 60, but we didn't have two games of 50+ in a row other than rounds 23 and 24.

Only a 2 game sample size which clearly isn't enough, but it does suggest that there might be some merit.

 

[winalotroos]

What would you know.

He's lazy and doesn't work hard enough but you can't see that cos of the Brady Rawlings shaped cataract in front of your eyes and the worn out dish cloth between your ears.

ps Go **** yourself.

Gentlemen Please

 

[DuckYeah]

I do think we will ‘rocket’ up the ladder next season and be in the 8

 

[Archer_11]

Just watching the replay:

Logue - never again.

And f*ck off Gerard Healy.

Gerard didn't stop swinging from the crow's nutsack the entire broadcast. i didn't expect anything different but it was a lot and very noticeable.

Great effort from the boys - that fight came from belief. How good is Tremors.

There's been a lot of hate this year and no doubt Kornflakes and Sameo will queue up to talk about how disappointing we've been. Say what you will about Clarks but this has been his first drama free year and preseason, hold him to the same standard as Fagan if you must but even the staunchest critic must concede it is possible the last two years took a toll and recovery has its own timetable.

I also think it's possible that the following has really straightened us up onfield:-

Al coaching from the bench
Jy moving to the wing
Powell moving to HBF
George, Harrison, LD McCartney and Tristan Lennon strengthening their chemistry
The arrival of Cooper Tremors aka the Ice Bath

Is it a new dawn or just a strong end to the season? Sadly that answer is probably ten months away because this time it needs to be sustainable.

But I will say one thing - most of the games we lost by under ten points we were missing key players. We came very close to finishing at 14th, a result most would have taken at the start of the season. I'll be gutted if we don't recruit for our back six, but even then I consider the glass to be very much half full.

 

[Caracas]

You reckon we've got the guts to retire LMac and trade Zurhaar? That would be an insanely left-field decision from an organisation that bangs on about stability.

I agree about the elephant in the room, but can't see us addressing it in that way

I’m happy to have Cam going forward. I agree with Ferb’s assessment of Cam’s all round performance. However, both he and Larkey have been our 1 & 2 forward players since 2020. This might have led to an unhelpful self-centred approach setting in. Next year, we look forward to Larkey/Trembath/Curtis/Zurhaar on a much more even footing - hopefully.

 

[DuckYeah]

Luke McDonald

Must retire!!!!! Cannot continue with him