B. Cousins V S. Crawford

[gdmclean]

Brownlow 2005

B&F in 2001-03, 05, 2nd in 1998.

AA in 98,99, 01, 02, 05

Captain from 2000-05

Polled 21 votes in 2003, 16 in 2002, 18 in 2001 (club finished 14th), 15 in 1999, 18 in 1998 (3rd year)

Been amazingly consistent from the very start.

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Well done mate. I was wondering if anyone would take the time to list Cuz's stats, and being AA in just his 3rd year shows just how good he was even early in his career.

For all those saying he only has had a couple of good years just got comprehensively owned.

finally a man with common sense, Cousins has only just lifted his game in the last couple of years, as Crawford has come to the twilight of his career. Crawford dominated games a LONG time before Cousins did, Crawford by the length of the horizon

Exhibit A
Let me add, that Cousins was the Rising Star in 1996 also. Crawford was only a nominee.

Actually while im at it, lets compare the 2:
Age: Cousins - 28, Crawford - 32
Career games: Cousins - 225 (since 1996), Crawford - 265 (since 1993)
All Australian: Cousins - 5 years, Crawford - 4 years.
Brownlow medals: Cousins - 1, Crawford - 1
Career Brownlow votes: Cousins - 124, Crawford - 149
Career goals: Cousins - 204, Crawford - 205

I think its fair to say that since Cousins has played 3 less seasons, his stats match up better than Crawfs, especially given that Crawford is 4 years older than Cousins who still has plenty of football left in him.

yeah nice opinion.....
Crawford started 93, Cousins 96 and in that time Cousins has outperformed crawford 3 seasons out of 10.
One of those seasons being this one where Crawford has played all of 12 matches yet still is performing rather well in a poor performing side.
The years prior to Cousins inception Crawford had already been performing at the same high standard for 2 years his first year not a bad debut either.

If people are going to make polls at Big Footy they might as well base them on this season alone, for that matter perhaps only the past two or three weeks seems the extent of peoples memories.

Crawford wins.

It appears that you dont pay any attention to football west of Adelaide. Either that or YOU are the one who only has a memory which doesnt extend beyond the past 2 or 3 weeks...

 

[Fletchers Girl]

Nice work Quinzate & Gd!

 

[celtic_pride]

I realise that?

I believe you interpreted me wrong mate. What I meant was when both players were 'at their peak', Crawf in 99-01, Cousins 05-07, i'd choose Crawford.

Fair enough, but I would think Cousins at his peak which he is now, was superior to Crawford's purple patch years. Although that may be tempered by the fact that Cousins is playing in a much better team and surrounded by the likes of Kerr and Judd.
I don't think Crawford had that kind of support in his heyday so he probably had to carry the load far more then Cousins.
Both are great champions though.

 

[Cassius_Clay]

Fair enough, but I would think Cousins at his peak which he is now, was superior to Crawford's purple patch years. Although that may be tempered by the fact that Cousins is playing in a much better team and surrounded by the likes of Kerr and Judd.
I don't think Crawford had that kind of support in his heyday so he probably had to carry the load far more then Cousins.
Both are great champions though.

Which meant that Crawford would always get the first tag whereas Cousins these days anyway gets the 3rd best tag.

 

[gdmclean]

Which meant that Crawford would always get the first tag whereas Cousins these days anyway gets the 3rd best tag.

During either season 2000 or 2001 when the Eagles were finishing in the bottom 4, Cousins was getting tagged every week and still lead the league for disposals at ~ 600 for the year.

 

[Cassius_Clay]

During either season 2000 or 2001 when the Eagles were finishing in the bottom 4, Cousins was getting tagged every week and still lead the league for disposals at ~ 600 for the year.

I said 'these days anyway'.

 

[Kickin_Goals]

It appears that you dont pay any attention to football west of Adelaide. Either that or YOU are the one who only has a memory which doesnt extend beyond the past 2 or 3 weeks...

It appears you are a biased supporter and you opinion is as good as Crawford's clown schooling.
Crawford has been consistant his entire career despite what hyped up off-field bull**** might like to say.
7 seasons vs 3 seasons those seasons Crawford didn't play to badly either.
I don't expect you to see past your own bs, nor your fellow supporters.
Both players are incredible and this poll is inconsequential get over it.
Cousins best performance is likely better also if that caters to you enough.

 

[Donsforever]

Cousins but close

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Is a good comparison...very similar type of player and, either way, you couldn't split them by much.
I'd take Crawford, by a very small margin.

 

[gdmclean]

7 seasons vs 3 seasons those seasons Crawford didn't play to badly either.

Im just bemused that you pull this 7 good seasons vs 3 seasons rubbish from somewhere. Tell me how you arrived at those numbers again? After all, Cousins has been an All australian 5 times compared to Crawfords 4....

 

[Neutral_observer]

Brownlow 2005

B&F in 2001-03, 05, 2nd in 1998.

AA in 98,99, 01, 02, 05

Captain from 2000-05

Polled 21 votes in 2003, 16 in 2002, 18 in 2001 (club finished 14th), 15 in 1999, 18 in 1998 (3rd year)

Been amazingly consistent from the very start.

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Cousins > Crawford by the length of the Nile

 

[Nightwolf]

Cousins > Crawford by the length of the Nile

Let me guess: Because he plays for Hawthorn?

 

[Philhawk]

Why must these kind of threads resort to petty insults being thrown after the first few replies?

They're both great players and it's actually a great comparison for one. People with hidden agenda's against either club shouldn't even bother posting if what they're going to post isn't productive.

 

[CyberKev]

A tough call.

Similar types with similar careers, but Cousins has definitely been helped by greater support during his time with the Eagles, and this support has been at its strongest in recent years, when injury spells to Crawford have helped to reduce his effectiveness and even up the statistical ledger.

Cousins has the edge now, although I suspect Crawford could be a revelation over the next few years if allowed to complete his career playing predominantly as a small forward.

Cousins is four years younger, but wasn't as impacting as Crawf was during his early years. You would expect him to come home strong, but perhaps he will receive debilitating injuries like Crawford has carried over the past few years, who knows?

Crawford would have the better stamina, but pace is about even. I'd take Cousins disposal over Crawf generally, although Crawford has a better marking capability. For a small man he has taken some fab high marks during his career.

Prior to 2002 you'd give the points to Crawf, but since then you'd have to go with Cousins.

Anyone who says Cousins is, much less has been, miles in front is seriously ignorant or simply hates Hawthorn.