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[Whats_his_damage]

Fellows,
I think the bigger ground theory has merit, however, when you beat the supposed next best side in the competition by over fifteen goals, it may all be a moot point. That said, an EP or Junction certainly would make the 3/4 ground zone that St Bedes employs easier to penetrate. Will also like to see how the Bogans perform in the pressure of B grade finals...

Ps: Don't think they would be the biggest chokers, however it wouldn't look great after smashing OE.

PPs: Malcolm Blight Comment: Kick with the sun in the first quarter at EP!

 

[Truth Hurts]

Any truth to the fact that Kieren McConnell may make his debut in the seniors this week?? He is happy enough to tell everyone that he should be playing senior football as he has the best left foot kick down at the club and can kick over 50 metres.

Hope he does as I may just have to make the journey to EP and see some fine spectators and I know who I will sit next to

 

[Ronnie De Lulio]

Been reading this thread for a while.. Seems like St Bedes are widely considered to win the grand final with ease. Can anyone get near them?? Aren't SKOB the only final teams actually to have beaten them and were leading at 3/4 time the other time they played them? (even though they eventually got pumped) Could they have slipped under the radar and threaten??

 

[naturalwinger]

any team playing finals can be vulnerable as no doubt they are playing quality opposition. regarding the doubts about st bedes on big grounds their record over the last two years (3 maybe 4 losses i think) makes this a pretty baseless argument. sure they have a small ground but have been winning away from home regularly on big grounds. i would think a win against marcellin at marcellin when they were going along nicely, come from behind win against blacks at blacks, win at oe, wins at beaumaris and junction oval are all evidence they are capable on big grounds. will teal be playing this week for oe? i hear he has a suspect jaw?? oe will be a big threat they did win 16 games have a quality ruckman and some good key forwards. will they have the run for the big ground?? i saw them a few times this year and thought they lacked pace??

 

[Whats_his_damage]

any team playing finals can be vulnerable as no doubt they are playing quality opposition. regarding the doubts about st bedes on big grounds their record over the last two years (3 maybe 4 losses i think) makes this a pretty baseless argument. sure they have a small ground but have been winning away from home regularly on big grounds. i would think a win against marcellin at marcellin when they were going along nicely, come from behind win against blacks at blacks, win at oe, wins at beaumaris and junction oval are all evidence they are capable on big grounds. will teal be playing this week for oe? i hear he has a suspect jaw?? oe will be a big threat they did win 16 games have a quality ruckman and some good key forwards. will they have the run for the big ground?? i saw them a few times this year and thought they lacked pace??

Agreed. I guess if one team had the pace advantage, it would be the Bogans. But, as has been alluded to, the fitness of Biggs, Biggs, et al., from what I have seen, is quite exceptional, and will suit that sort of ground. Finals aren't usually (big generalisation, as 2006 C grade GF goes against this) that open, so may not matter as much.

On Skevvies, their chances of the flag are like their Travisty hoodies, S T Ruggling. Don't really see how Dollman, Dowd etc, can match it with the top two. They win, but do so unremarkably throughout the season. I hope they can challenge the top two and will happily eat my words. Thought?

 

[footyfan_joe]

The ground which is the biggest in the VAFA is La Trobe Uni's ground ... that thing is a monster! You could fit two Postage Stamps on it ...

 

[ShinSplints]

Why are the St Bede's guys so keen to have everyone say they are raging premiership favourites? Doesn't that just add unnecessary pressure and if they do happen to not win the GF (or worse yet go out in straight sets) they will be known as the biggest chokers the VAFA world has seen.

yeah... but st bedes are a 15 goal better side than anyone in the VAFA seriously and at about the 9 goal mark you can be how you want to in this case it doesnt matter st.bedes are winning the flag this yar NO DOUBT!

 

[BrianSpeaking]

yeah... but st bedes are a 15 goal better side than anyone in the VAFA seriously and at about the 9 goal mark you can be how you want to in this case it doesnt matter st.bedes are winning the flag this yar NO DOUBT!

Go to bed little man, school tomorrow. Bevo doesnt need this crap posted by tools like you guys.

 

[Monkeyboy]

Go to bed little man, school tomorrow. Bevo doesnt need this crap posted by tools like you guys.

Pot Kettle Black

 

[Northern_kid]

yeah... but st bedes are a 15 goal better side than anyone in the VAFA seriously and at about the 9 goal mark you can be how you want to in this case it doesnt matter st.bedes are winning the flag this yar NO DOUBT!

St Bedes will be going into the game with physiological edge, having won bth games against OEG, and having won the last encounter by over 100 points.

I guess this can work two ways for OEG.

1. They go into the game with some scarring and feel that the task is close to impossible, have lost twice and were pumped last time they played
OR
2. St bedes go into the game a little over confident, feel like they have the edge just go into the game 10-15% below there best mentally and OEG captilise on this. By the sounds of the posts on these threads they are very very confident.

I also think that there has to be an element of expereince when it comes to B grade finals. OEG have well and truly done there time. Got to prelim final last year but were smashed by Old Brighton in 2nd half. With both Biggs boys in that team the result could have been different?? Maybe
Year before that lost to Brighton in the first elimination final. Most of the team has played in bth of those finals series, and have experienced the intensity of a B grade final before.
Have St Bedes done the hard yards in B? It would be an awesome effort to go straight from C to B to A in space of 2 years. Wouldn't think that it has been done by many clubs.

No doubt that St Bedes are the favourites and deserved favourites going into the game, but I feel that OEG have done the time in B and will give the game a reall shake. Hope I am right!!

 

[Northern_kid]

yeah... but st bedes are a 15 goal better side than anyone in the VAFA seriously and at about the 9 goal mark you can be how you want to in this case it doesnt matter st.bedes are winning the flag this yar NO DOUBT!

St Bedes will be going into the game with physiological edge, having won bth games against OEG, and having won the last encounter by over 100 points.

I guess this can work two ways for OEG.

1. They go into the game with some scarring and feel that the task is close to impossible, have lost twice and were pumped last time they played
OR
2. St bedes go into the game a little over confident, feel like they have the edge just go into the game 10-15% below there best mentally and OEG captilise on this. By the sounds of the posts on these threads they are very very confident.

I also think that there has to be an element of expereince when it comes to B grade finals. OEG have well and truly done there time. Got to prelim final last year but were smashed by Old Brighton in 2nd half. With both Biggs boys in that team the result could have been different?? Maybe
Year before that lost to Brighton in the first elimination final. Most of the team has played in bth of those finals series, and have experienced the intensity of a B grade final before.
Have St Bedes done the hard yards in B? It would be an awesome effort to go straight from C to B to A in space of 2 years. Wouldn't think that it has been done by many clubs.

No doubt that St Bedes are the favourites and deserved favourites going into the game, but I feel that OEG have done the time in B and will give the game a reall shake. Hope I am right!!

Just hope that the game doesn't take to much out of OEG if they do lose, and St Kevs or Uni play OEG the following and knock them of, after giving everything they have against St Bedes. That would be a disaster!

 

[tommy1979]

Who are the invites from the clubs to the league b&f on monday night.

 

[ITSMYNAME]

I've always been a fan of the underdog. Yes st bedes won both times they played but still finals football is completely different. OEG looks to be a bit more mature and i think that counts in finals games. Having said that bevo's boys have played well all year when their full side is in and faultered twice when a few changes rattle the side. Is this to say the depth is average. The can play big and small grounds well imo. Just a question to all of you. If you had your choice of winning having a week off going straight into a granny or losing and winning the next week and going in with a full side what would you choose? i feel some rested teams take a 1/4 or so to start in some cases a half. thoughts?

 

[Richard Clay Torpedoes]

Northern Kid....Whitefriars 02 - 'C' Premiers, 03 - 'B' Runners up...Collegians 03 - 'C' Runners up, 04 -'B' Runners up...so the double jump has happened twice this decade already.

RCT

 

[ultimate hater]

Northern Kid....Whitefriars 02 - 'C' Premiers, 03 - 'B' Runners up...Collegians 03 - 'C' Runners up, 04 -'B' Runners up...so the double jump has happened twice this decade already.

RCT

Interesting.. Did both teams drop from A grade the following year after doing the "double jump"? I'm pretty sure collegians did, but am unsure of whitefriars..

ala "two steps forward, one step back"

 

[young veteran]

Interesting.. Did both teams drop from A grade the following year after doing the "double jump"? I'm pretty sure collegians did, but am unsure of whitefriars..

ala "two steps forward, one step back"

whitefriars dropped the next year. only won 4 games from memory.

 

[DeeKayLillee]

St Bedes will be going into the game with physiological edge, having won bth games against OEG, and having won the last encounter by over 100 points.

I guess this can work two ways for OEG.

1. They go into the game with some scarring and feel that the task is close to impossible, have lost twice and were pumped last time they played
OR
2. St bedes go into the game a little over confident, feel like they have the edge just go into the game 10-15% below there best mentally and OEG captilise on this. By the sounds of the posts on these threads they are very very confident.

I also think that there has to be an element of expereince when it comes to B grade finals. OEG have well and truly done there time. Got to prelim final last year but were smashed by Old Brighton in 2nd half. With both Biggs boys in that team the result could have been different?? Maybe
Year before that lost to Brighton in the first elimination final. Most of the team has played in bth of those finals series, and have experienced the intensity of a B grade final before.
Have St Bedes done the hard yards in B? It would be an awesome effort to go straight from C to B to A in space of 2 years. Wouldn't think that it has been done by many clubs.

No doubt that St Bedes are the favourites and deserved favourites going into the game, but I feel that OEG have done the time in B and will give the game a reall shake. Hope I am right!!

Just hope that the game doesn't take to much out of OEG if they do lose, and St Kevs or Uni play OEG the following and knock them of, after giving everything they have against St Bedes. That would be a disaster!

A disaster ?? Nothing funnier than a team going out in straight sets !!!!
Reminds me of Greg Chappell making all those ducks in a row, the pressure was emanating from every pore.........

 

[Apple Core]

Why are the St Bede's guys so keen to have everyone say they are raging premiership favourites? Doesn't that just add unnecessary pressure and if they do happen to not win the GF (or worse yet go out in straight sets) they will be known as the biggest chokers the VAFA world has seen.

no where in my post did i talk about st bede's being premiership favs. it was more aimed at shooting down DC's post/ego. Which it did.

Oe + Bede's finish with same wins for the season. So both are of a similar standard which means no clear fav.

 

[Spitz]

There is 3 ground that can only be considere big in B grade!

Marcellin which is the biggest - they won in last 3 secs

Elsternwick - Lost by 100 points to a team that got relegated

Junction - Which is not that big. But they won by 40 against a team that played off for relegation.

There big wins came on small grounds.

Stumpy McFaddin this is my opinion from playing against St Bedes. I was asked!!
Also they should have beaten us by 100 points we had 18 players as we played 3 guys who had not played in 2 or 3 weeks and did not step on the ground because the players that qualified for 2's we dropped.
Played 4 Under 19's and our Vice Captain went overseas during the week.

We deserved and should have been smashed. But to be within 10 points in the 3rd quarter is not good enough. Plus if I didn't kick 2 goals 5 behinds then again like the week before it would have helped alot more.

We would not have won the game. But it may have been closer.

I predicted Hugh Lacey to go well. Matt Bortolotto will poll well. But suspended. Wears number 1 on his jumper. Umps notice small things like that. 2 years ago when I went to the League B&F 2 red heads, a ruckman and a guy in a pony tail won there sections.

Dont count out Sinclair. Kicked alot of Goals I think he will be top 3.

I respect that you post with your name Daniel but Il have to pull you up on a couple of things.

These excuses reak of desperation to me.

In regards to the u/19 excuse.

St Bedes by my count played 5 u/19's players, and one player that still qualifies for u/17's against Marcellin on the weekend.

The fact of the matter is it was 34 scoring shots to 22, thats not some little indescrepency, thats a big difference, and like Marcellin if SBMT took their chances the result may have been greater.


In reference to Beaumaris not being a big ground, it has very similar dimensions to the MCG, is that not a big ground? You could fit the SBMT ground on one of its wings.

Now I have no idea what ground Marcelln has been playing on, as I havnt been to any of their home games this season, but if they use their main school oval (which I doubt), then that shouldnt be considered a big ground, as Beaumaris is definately bigger.

 

[TuttoPronto]

I respect that you post with your name Daniel but Il have to pull you up on a couple of things.

These excuses reak of desperation to me.

In regards to the u/19 excuse.

St Bedes by my count played 5 u/19's players, and one player that still qualifies for u/17's against Marcellin on the weekend.

The fact of the matter is it was 34 scoring shots to 22, thats not some little indescrepency, thats a big difference, and like Marcellin if SBMT took their chances the result may have been greater.


In reference to Beaumaris not being a big ground, it has very similar dimensions to the MCG, is that not a big ground? You could fit the SBMT ground on one of its wings.

Now I have no idea what ground Marcelln has been playing on, as I havnt been to any of their home games this season, but if they use their main school oval (which I doubt), then that shouldnt be considered a big ground, as Beaumaris is definately bigger.

Marcellin's school ground IS the same dimensions as the MCG, there is no way Beaumaris is bigger. But agree that Beauy is one of the bigger grounds in the comp. Anyway none of that matters as the main game is played at EP which is a completely different ground all together and can be a small ground depending on how you play it.
Both teams deserve to be in the 2nd semi on their H&A season with SBMT as solid favs.
Who wins through to the prelim??

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Marcellin's school ground IS the same dimensions as the MCG, there is no way Beaumaris is bigger. But agree that Beauy is one of the bigger grounds in the comp. Anyway none of that matters as the main game is played at EP which is a completely different ground all together and can be a small ground depending on how you play it.
Both teams deserve to be in the 2nd semi on their H&A season with SBMT as solid favs.
Who wins through to the prelim??

I don think your going to get a definite answer on that one.
St Bedes for my mind. That last win over OEG was rather convincing, even though it was at the Postage Stamp, you would stillk think that a top of the tabel clash would of been a bit closer than that.
But i'm biased...

 

[tommy1979]

RCT,

Who are SBMT's league b&f invites. You seem to be in the know.
Big pineapple - oeg's
DanCullinan - marc.

Big Tommy

 

[Daniel Cullinan]

RCT,

Who are SBMT's league b&f invites. You seem to be in the know.
Big pineapple - oeg's
DanCullinan - marc.

Big Tommy

Sorry Tommy1979,

I have no idea, Matt Bortlotto would have been a shoe in for an invite but was reported in the 14th round.

Others may be McLaren- very flashy and carries the ball alot

Jarrod Carlson - as skillful as they come.

Luke Considine - hard nut and in and under.

Jake Symes deserves and invite for sure but I have no idea if a full back has ever won the League B&F.

Spitz,
St Bedes playing Under 19 kids is a fair bit different to ours. There Under 19's from looking at the ladder and Results are a class above Under 19 2 division. And ffor that matter I think they would take out Premier.
That amount of scoring shots is a big difference, but as I said in the last post. They smashed us in the last 15 mins. Probably had the last 8- 10 shots. As we had no team to be able to put on.

I am not going to argue this point, St Bedes are a BETTER side and were MUCH better on the day. When we played at our ground, we were playing better football and result should have been much different if it wasn't for 3 errors by young kids (who had played great all game) in the last few minutes.

As for ground size. If you have not seen it get down to Marcellin and see the biggest groung in B grade and the best surface. If you didnt play at Marcellin this year (in regards to size or surface) do not comment.


I am telling you Marcellin is the biggest ground!!! I am not being biast, bragging about the size of your ground is not something to be competitive about. BUT it is fact!

Trinity is also massive.

 

[Richard Clay Torpedoes]

The 'bow legged jumps jockey' Davey Kinsella has been the surprise invite from SBMT...perhaps he will do a 'Libba' and become the most unpopular winner in VAFA history!....he has had another good year with high marks and inverted torp's for goals and he chinwags the men in white!

La Trobe Uni...massive ground...remember the siren went for half time and the ball was deep in the forward pocket furtherest from the change rooms...by the time I got to the our rooms it was time to go back out again!

RCT

 

[Surly23]

I respect that you post with your name Daniel but Il have to pull you up on a couple of things.

These excuses reak of desperation to me.

In regards to the u/19 excuse.

St Bedes by my count played 5 u/19's players, and one player that still qualifies for u/17's against Marcellin on the weekend.

The fact of the matter is it was 34 scoring shots to 22, thats not some little indescrepency, thats a big difference, and like Marcellin if SBMT took their chances the result may have been greater.


In reference to Beaumaris not being a big ground, it has very similar dimensions to the MCG, is that not a big ground? You could fit the SBMT ground on one of its wings.

Now I have no idea what ground Marcelln has been playing on, as I havnt been to any of their home games this season, but if they use their main school oval (which I doubt), then that shouldnt be considered a big ground, as Beaumaris is definately bigger.

One more thing DC, SBMT played with 19 men for most of the game and didn't use their bench either!