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[Unwritten_Law]

After Weaver's comments about us mainly using the draft to add depth to what we already had I thought it would be interesting to break the side up into categories and have a look at what we have.

Full Back: Scarlett Egan

Centre Half Back: Harley Spencer

Medium Defenders/Run with players: Rooke D.Johnson

Rebounding Defenders: Hunt Wojcinski Callan

Utilities: Mooney Milburn Enright Lonergan Gamble

Inside Midfielders: Ling Corey Bartel Kelly Prismall

Outside Midfielders: Riccardi Tenace Varcoe Koula Byrnes

Medium Forwards: S.Johnson Mackie Gardiner Owen

Small Forwards: Chapman G. Ablett Stokes

CHF: Playfair McCarthy

FF: Kingsley N.Ablett

Ruck: King Ottens Blake West


Ok, Ottens will spend more time in the forward line than ruck (hopefully!) and Ablett will spend time in the middle etc. but that is how I have classified them, feel free to argue any you disagree with.

It's no surprise to anyone where the big hole is and the only other hole that I can see is for a Daniel Chick type lock down player in defence.

Looking at it that way we just about got the perfect five players, positional wise, from the draft. Let's hope a couple of them make it

 

[WestCat]

After Weaver's comments about us mainly using the draft to add depth to what we already had I thought it would be interesting to break the side up into categories and have a look at what we have.

Full Back: Scarlett Egan

Centre Half Back: Harley Spencer

Medium Defenders/Run with players: Rooke D.Johnson

Rebounding Defenders: Hunt Wojcinski Callan

Utilities: Mooney Milburn Enright Lonergan Gamble

Inside Midfielders: Ling Corey Bartel Kelly Prismall

Outside Midfielders: Riccardi Tenace Varcoe Koula Byrnes

Medium Forwards: S.Johnson Mackie Gardiner Owen

Small Forwards: Chapman G. Ablett Stokes

CHF: Playfair McCarthy

FF: Kingsley N.Ablett

Ruck: King Ottens Blake West


Ok, Ottens will spend more time in the forward line than ruck (hopefully!) and Ablett will spend time in the middle etc. but that is how I have classified them, feel free to argue any you disagree with.

It's no surprise to anyone where the big hole is and the only other hole that I can see is for a Daniel Chick type lock down player in defence.

Looking at it that way we just about got the perfect five players, positional wise, from the draft. Let's hope a couple of them make it

When you think about it, a lock down small defender is just a tagger in the backline, and both Rooke and DJ have shown that they can perform this role if needed. I think our only real void is a quick lock down defender, we have Wojcinski, but he prefers to run off his man a bit. I guess we'll see once the season comes around, but I think we need some more pace in defence.

And I'm still not sold on our key forwards, H is solid if he can get back into the form he displayed throughout the middle of this year, but he's not going to win matches. Kingsley makes everyone nervous when he shoots at goal, Ottens is a ruck/forward and won't be there permanently despite the fact he's probably our best tall forward. And N.Ablett is still only 20 (well he will be once next season roles around) and despite his obvious talent, I don't want to rely on him to be our number 1 forward.

 

[Turbocat]

After Weaver's comments about us mainly using the draft to add depth to what we already had I thought it would be interesting to break the side up into categories and have a look at what we have......

UL , what did Weaver say?. Can you post it or link it. Pretty clued up observer

 

[Unwritten_Law]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211968

and

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212088

 

[Turbocat]

No doubt weavers always interesting to read, dont always agree with him but.

To rate us going for backup is not the way I say the types that I we have grabed. 3 players l80 or less says to me they thought they lacked something.


To repeat a comment in another post the Cats have a very solid young list.We took the premiers all the ways with a side that was injury depeleted. Just going for solid , backups to me would have meant going for Ryan Jackson.I feel he would be a solid player but probably not much different to Prismall or Koola etc. We now need the special talent that one usually only gets very early. Geelong have been lucky with some of our deep picks, geting heaps out of Ling,Chapman,Enright etc but even when we were a poor side with picks 7 or 8 , we never had a player like Mitch Clarke for thru to us like he did for Brisbane.For the next 4-5 years we are probably looing at deep R1 pick (13+) so its time for risks because really there is minimal downside.Fail and what have we lost.Almost nothing.Succeed and we have an addition to our side.Could we find a spot for a Deludio or a Cooney, of course.All indications are that Varcoe at his best could be that level.

He doesnt rate West , thats pretty obvious but to say he is a direct replacement for Chambers is simpistic. Geelong has been poor in stocking up with super talls. They apparently liked Baily but grabed West as next best.Fine hes here for two years and I like to see them get another as a Rookie we must 5 min on our list at all times. West is the start.

Weaver also doesnt rate players like Owen.Have a look where he placed McKinley in his drafts , usually lowish. Is Owen , the type I wanted us to get?, sounds like it.Is he the one, who knows , stayed tuned.Hes agile and has speed, add footy smarts and we may have a player.

Overall its hard to judge on balance. Your placement of players shows our weekness at either end. Egan is more CHB I feel, without Scarlo we dont have a FB. FF is probably less vunerable, we have guys that can do a job and you can asisted by mid field supply , FB your on your own. Scarlo is MIP

 

[carn_the_cattas]

No doubt weavers always interesting to read, dont always agree with him but.

To rate us going for backup is not the way I say the types that I we have grabed. 3 players l80 or less says to me they thought they lacked something.


To repeat a comment in another post the Cats have a very solid young list.We took the premiers all the ways with a side that was injury depeleted. Just going for solid , backups to me would have meant going for Ryan Jackson.I feel he would be a solid player but probably not much different to Prismall or Koola etc. We now need the special talent that one usually only gets very early. Geelong have been lucky with some of our deep picks, geting heaps out of Ling,Chapman,Enright etc but even when we were a poor side with picks 7 or 8 , we never had a player like Mitch Clarke for thru to us like he did for Brisbane.For the next 4-5 years we are probably looing at deep R1 pick (13+) so its time for risks because really there is minimal downside.Fail and what have we lost.Almost nothing.Succeed and we have an addition to our side.Could we find a spot for a Deludio or a Cooney, of course.All indications are that Varcoe at his best could be that level.

He doesnt rate West , thats pretty obvious but to say he is a direct replacement for Chambers is simpistic. Geelong has been poor in stocking up with super talls. They apparently liked Baily but grabed West as next best.Fine hes here for two years and I like to see them get another as a Rookie we must 5 min on our list at all times. West is the start.

Weaver also doesnt rate players like Owen.Have a look where he placed McKinley in his drafts , usually lowish. Is Owen , the type I wanted us to get?, sounds like it.Is he the one, who knows , stayed tuned.Hes agile and has speed, add footy smarts and we may have a player.

Over its hard to judge on balance. Your placement of players shows our weekness at either end. Egan is more CHB I feel, without Scarlo we dont have a FB.

How is Egan a CHB? Doesn't he play FB in VFL? I thought he did an alright job on O'Loughlin in the Semi.

 

[carn_the_cattas]

After Weaver's comments about us mainly using the draft to add depth to what we already had I thought it would be interesting to break the side up into categories and have a look at what we have.

Full Back: Scarlett Egan

Centre Half Back: Harley Spencer

Medium Defenders/Run with players: Rooke D.Johnson

Rebounding Defenders: Hunt Wojcinski Callan

Utilities: Mooney Milburn Enright Lonergan Gamble

Inside Midfielders: Ling Corey Bartel Kelly Prismall

Outside Midfielders: Riccardi Tenace Varcoe Koula Byrnes

Medium Forwards: S.Johnson Mackie Gardiner Owen

Small Forwards: Chapman G. Ablett Stokes

CHF: Playfair McCarthy

FF: Kingsley N.Ablett

Ruck: King Ottens Blake West


Ok, Ottens will spend more time in the forward line than ruck (hopefully!) and Ablett will spend time in the middle etc. but that is how I have classified them, feel free to argue any you disagree with.

It's no surprise to anyone where the big hole is and the only other hole that I can see is for a Daniel Chick type lock down player in defence.

Looking at it that way we just about got the perfect five players, positional wise, from the draft. Let's hope a couple of them make it

Theres alot of guys who can play in more than just the one spot but aren't really utilities.
Gary Ablett, Chapman, Riccardi and Steve Johnson can play Midfield and Foward.
Corey and Wojcinski can play midfield and defence.
Playfair and McCarthy can be thrown in the ruck.
Ottens can play at FF.
Apparently Spencer and Stokes can play at both ends.

Thats alot of depth.

 

[WestCat]

How is Egan a CHB? Doesn't he play FB in VFL? I thought he did an alright job on O'Loughlin in the Semi.

I agree, I think Egan is more FB than CHB, but could probably play either role well. I think he may struggle against the top CHFs due to a lack of footy smarts, but this isn't as important at FB due to the restricted space and movement. We also have Mooney who can chip in at CHB or even FB if required.

I still think our key forwards is where we need someone to desperately stand up, the time is now for one of Playfair, McCarthy and Lonergan, they can make a spot theirs if they want, just need one good season.

 

[Turbocat]

How is Egan a CHB? Doesn't he play FB in VFL? I thought he did an alright job on O'Loughlin in the Semi.

He may well play FB in the VFL. In AFL Scarlett took the key guys, Hall was far more dangerous than ML IMO.Scarlett is deemed so damaging that the 1forward quite often trys to drag him out, thus leaving #2 on our #2
Dont get wrong, I like Egan , a lot.He is as brave as can be but Im not sure he could handle Gehrig or a Lloyd in a 1on1 But he may well prove me wrong, I did think he caould play like he did the second half of 05.

 

[carn_the_cattas]

He may well play FB in the VFL. In AFL Scarlett took the key guys, Hall was far more dangerous than ML IMO.Scarlett is deemed so damaging that the 1forward quite often trys to drag him out, thus leaving #2 on our #2
Dont get wrong, I like Egan , a lot.He is as brave as can be but Im not sure he could handle Gehrig or a Lloyd in a 1on1 But he may well prove me wrong, I did think he caould play like he did the second half of 05.

Of course he could'nt take on those guys after one year of AFL. Give him more time and he could become the next Matty Scarlett - Which he may just have to when Scarlo leaves.

 

[Turbocat]

Of course he could'nt take on those guys after one year of AFL. Give him more time and he could become the next Matty Scarlett - Which he may just have to when Scarlo leaves.

OK , so he is not currently a FB.The balance list is wrong. We have no replacement for Scarlo if he went down Pre season. He is currently capable of playing against some quality forwards, more that at Half forward than else where. To say that he may turn into a Scarlo replacement is fine but its conjecture.You could also he could turn into a CHF , like Benny did eventually.

Again , I say I like him, he has also allowed Scarlo and Harley to be more attacking and create drive.