Beatlesmith's Top 40 Phantom draft (with explanations)

[beatlesmith]

Beatlesmith's Top 40 Phantom draft (with explanations) *UPDATED*

1: Tom Scully (Melbourne)- Standout mid of the draft, quality in all areas.
2: Jack Trengove (Melbourne)- Another outstanding midfield prospect, will be able to go KP later
3: Dustin Martin (Richmond)- Have been very interested. His inside abilities will compliment guys like Cotchin and Deledio
4: Anthony Morabito (Fremantle)- Best available, giving them another strong midfield prospect
5: Ben Cunnington (North Melbourne)- Hard nosed midfielder, replacing Simpson, Harris
6: Gary Rohan (Sydney)- Electrifying prospect who will put bums on seats to see him play. Could go with Butcher, but will be putting faith in White
7: Kane Lucas (West Coast)- No brainer really; best available midfielder, complimenting strong inside ranks
8: John Butcher (Port Adelaide)- Big steal. Could go Tapscott, but I reckon they are in more need of a replacement for Tredrea than one for Cornes
9: Luke Tapscott (Port Adelaide) After getting a quality KPF, Adelaide will look at local boy Tapscott as a replacement for Cornes, adding a big body to their midfieldand with his ready-made-ness will help ease the blow of losing Burgoyne
10: Koby Stevens (Essendon) Perhaps a bit of a reach considering his injury past, but make no mistake, Stevens is up there with the best midfielders in this draft, and I think is the best available. After sorting out KPP replacements in previous years, Essendon now must look to build a quality midfield unit.
11: Matthew Panos (Melbourne)- After getting 2 midfielders, Panos will compliment their squad, particularly Watts, perfectly
12: Daniel Talia (Carlton)- With no outstanding KPF option, I think they will get Talia, who for me is clearly the best available, aswell as fulfilling a need. Given his versatility, Carlton will have the flexibility of either grooming him as a defender, allowing Waite to play forward permanently, or as a Fevola replacement up forward.
13: Lewis Jetta (Adelaide)- Gives them a great wingman replacement for Mcleod in the long term, and gives them a possible crumbing option in the short term
14: Jack Fitzpatrick (Sydney)- They will pt faith in White, but they still need more youth in the KP stakes, and Fitzpatrick gives flexibility as both a ruckman or KPF prospect.
15: Ben Griffiths (WB)- Yes, they are getting Hall, but Griffiths will continue the newly founded monster KPF tradition, and has simply epic potential.
16: Roland Ah Chee (Port Adelaide)- Similar ilk to Burgoyne, a SA boy and a quality young prospect.
17: Aaron Black (Geelong)- Real bolter. In his quality marking and great kicking, I think he will suit Geelong's needs perfectly.
18: Brad Sheppard (Melbourne)- Highly rated HBF, releasing Grimes in to a permanent midfield role
19: Jake Carlisle(Richmond)- The best KPF available, making up for passing on Butcher
20: Troy Taylor (Fremantle)- They have big wraps on him and are very interested. Will look to make him a KPF, in an effort to replace Pavlich in the long run. Doubt he'll last much longer, so they will have to pounce now.
21: Allen Christensen (Nort Melbourne)- After going with an inside mid, they will add some pace and class to their young midfield ranks
22: Ryan Bastinac (West Coast)- Bit of a slider, but is the best available, and after getting Lucas, they will look for a more inside option, rather than Duncan.
23: Travis Colyer (West Coast)- Can't see them going past his combination of pace and class. Will give a short term crumbing option too.
24: Mitch Duncan (Essendon)- A steal at 24, Duncan is surely the best available, and is a needed midfielder.
25: Jordan Gysberts (North Melbourne)- One of the best available, adding to Cunnington, Ziebell and Christensen in forming a qualityyoung midfield.
26: Jake Melksham (Essendon)- Best available, giving another strong midfield option
27: Tom Hill (Brisbane)- Fevola and Brown is one thing, but losing Henderson leaves them with a gap in youth in that area, leaving Hill to be the successor.
28: Nathan Vardy (Geelong)- Not many pressing needs, but with Mumford gone, they will need a prospect to potentially take over from Ottens.
29: Alex Carey (Adelaide)- Local boy who is one of the best available, adding to their strong young midfield stakes
30: Sam Reid (Collingwood)- Athletic key defender, eventually replacing Presti. Uniting brothers, and is a steal anyway.
31: Kyle Hartigan (WB)- The Bullies shore up their KP Defensive stocks with a no-nonsense defender
32: Jesse Crichton (StK)- Best available pick, and a good one at that
33: Callum Bartlett(Essendon)- Best available. He is a risk, but Essendon like to take them, and Bartlett offers enormous potential reward.
34: Max Gawn (Melbourne)- To cap off a great draft, Melbourne grab a huge, athletic ruckman, where they lack depth atm.
35: Ryan Harwood (Richmond)- Best available, giving a replacement for a Bowden type
36: Mark Hutchings (Fremantle)- Hard as nails inside mid, just what they need. Local lad too.
37: Nicholas Winmar (North Melbourne)- High Risk, High Reward pick, giving them more pace and excitement
38: Dylan Mcneil (Sydney)- Local boy who is hard at it and puts his body on the line, just how they like it
39: Andrew Moore (Hawthorn)- Will suit their needs, acting as a O'keefe-esque link between the forward line and midfield, and is up there as the best available.
40: Josh Donaldson (Geelong)- Gangly high potential KPP. Plays in the ruck in current competitions, but with his lack of height, great athleticism and ability to read the play, I see Geelong grooming him as a KPD, and eventual replacement for Scarlett, or short term replacement for Harley

Reshuffled a bit according to the completed trades as of the end of trade week.

 

[lionshine]

Good draft. I could honestly see Lucas slip to the Lions pick 12 and I just have a feeling it will happen but lets wait till draft day and see what happens!

 

[Eastern Rangers]

No way would take Colyer at 22. Especailly if Duncan and Fyfe are available. Plenty of other options for small forwards.

 

[strath39]

Very happy from a Port perceptive.

 

[Darkness Falls]

Great effort.

 

[SUPASTARR]

Would be pleased with Carlisle although I don't know much about Hartigan.

 

[1990crow]

29: Sam Carey (Adelaide)- Local boy who is one of the best available, adding to their strong young midfield stakes

Alex Carey?

 

[saxymaxy]

No way would take Colyer at 22. Especailly if Duncan and Fyfe are available. Plenty of other options for small forwards.

id take colyer before duncan and fyfe for sure

 

[coasting]

Some names I think you are missing: Troy Taylor, Andrew Moore and Jake Melksham

Black is a superior prospect to Griffiths and will go before him.

I think Tapscott will go earlier and I think we will probably overlook Lucas.

Agree with pretty much the rest of it.

 

[ohhhBigMalcho]

what are peoples thoughts on ben jacobs

just watching some of his carnival tapes and he looks like a promising midfilder that reminds me of perhaps martin mattner

he has a raking left foot, has a strong body, composed and appears to have good vision and decision making. also can kick well on his right which is seen on his tape with a nice pass

could be a 4th round pck that could prove handsome as he could be a very good designated kicker from half back to midfield

 

[Dyslexic Emo]

4: Anthony Morabito (Fremantle)- Best available, giving them another strong midfield prospect

20: Aaron Black (Fremantle)- After going small, they must surely go tall, replaing Pav in the long run. A local boy who is on the rise, Black is a perfect fit.

I'm not sure about you, but I don't exactly go around classing 192cm players as small.

Good job none the less, will be interesting after trade week when the oreders get switched around some more.

 

[beatlesmith]

Some names I think you are missing: Troy Taylor, Andrew Moore and Jake Melksham

Black is a superior prospect to Griffiths and will go before him.

I think Tapscott will go earlier and I think we will probably overlook Lucas.

Agree with pretty much the rest of it.

I rate Griffiths higher. Has enormous potential.
Not many prospects are fantastic pack marks, quick, agile (at 100kg) and have a 60m, accurate set shot.
If it weren't for his injuries I think he would be rated up there with Butcher.

Melksham is in there (pick 26)
Tapscott is neither here nor there for me. Needed to participate in the DC and prove he has a decent fitness base and has pace to stake his claim for top 7 or so selection.
Lucas' athletic returns, combined with his role and locale make him he perfect pick for WC imo.

 

[Toadvine]

I don't know if Tom hill going that high is justified just because we need a KPF. If Aaron Black was available as he is in this draft I don't see why Richmond wouldn't take him as he's rated as a potential first rounder and we're rumored to have a keen interest in him (like most clubs).

If we ended up with Martin and Black I'd be a very happy man.

 

[coasting]

I rate Griffiths higher. Has enormous potential.
Not many prospects are fantastic pack marks, quick, agile (at 100kg) and have a 60m, accurate set shot.
If it weren't for his injuries I think he would be rated up there with Butcher.

Melksham is in there (pick 26)
Tapscott is neither here nor there for me. Needed to participate in the DC and prove he has a decent fitness base and has pace to stake his claim for top 7 or so selection.
Lucas' athletic returns, combined with his role and locale make him he perfect pick for WC imo.

I think you are underselling Black a bit there. Some scouts think he will be the best WA player to come from this draft. IMO he is the next Kurt Tippett and won't last past Melbourne's pick 11. He even looks a bit like him too. Was sensational against Perth in the last round of WAFL.

 

[Mofra]

15: Ben Griffiths (WB)- Yes, they are getting Hall, but Griffiths will continue the newly founded monster KPF tradition

Can he play back? If we're drafting for needs, a KPB is what we'd chase.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

I rate Griffiths higher. Has enormous potential.
Not many prospects are fantastic pack marks, quick, agile (at 100kg) and have a 60m, accurate set shot.
If it weren't for his injuries I think he would be rated up there with Butcher.

Melksham is in there (pick 26)
Tapscott is neither here nor there for me. Needed to participate in the DC and prove he has a decent fitness base and has pace to stake his claim for top 7 or so selection.
Lucas' athletic returns, combined with his role and locale make him he perfect pick for WC imo.

My problem with Lucas is you have an outside mid who doesn't have great disposal, which is something we really need.

I have always wanted Martin but I knew his stocks would rise come draft camp so he is now out of the picture.

I hope Rohan slides he has electrifying speed, great disposal and massive upside.

The other big question is whether Butcher will slide. If so I would take him in a heartbeat. He has had injuries this year and got alot of attention in the U18 championships because he was touted as the most dangerous player in the comp. His kicking is a little dodgy but his marking and agility is top class and looks a real footballer. I think he would be a bargain at pick 7 and would fit nicely into our developing list.

 

[Anjahads]

Well done BS.If eagles get pick 22/28 would you still pick the same players as shown on list?

 

[LemmingMaster]

I think you are underselling Black a bit there. Some scouts think he will be the best WA player to come from this draft. IMO he is the next Kurt Tippett and won't last past Melbourne's pick 11. He even looks a bit like him too. Was sensational against Perth in the last round of WAFL.

I did not get to see the game against Perth, but the game against my Sharks he had a very good game. He could be the bolter in this years draft.

 

[EagleMan87]

Well done BS.If eagles get pick 22/28 would you still pick the same players as shown on list?

Yeah, we now have picks 7, 22 and 23.

I'd like to see us to take;

7: Talia/Rohan - KPD/HFF
22: Duncan - Mid
23: Colyer - FP

That's on the premise that this draft order is correct of course, if Griffiths or Black slid to 22 I'd want us to take one of them instead.

 

[Vacuous Space]

16: Roland Ah Chee (St Kilda)- Their interest in Burgoyne tells me they want more pace, run and carry.

I don't see it that way. We like players who win contested footy, tackle hard, spread from the contest and work hard both ways. That, to me, is why we're interested in Burgoyne. He ticks all those boxes. I'm not sure he's a run and carry type of player anyway. He did only have 5 running bounces this year.

If the board falls that way, I think we'll find it tough to pass on Bastinac.

 

[beatlesmith]

I don't see it that way. We like players who win contested footy, tackle hard, spread from the contest and work hard both ways. That, to me, is why we're interested in Burgoyne. He ticks all those boxes. I'm not sure he's a run and carry type of player anyway. He did only have 5 running bounces this year.

If the board falls that way, I think we'll find it tough to pass on Bastinac.

Chasing Burgoyne while losing Ball tells me you are looking for more polished, damaging players.

 

[sTeeL]

Eagles will not take 3 mids(Colyer is a mid)

 

[Huey]

I would have thought that Andrew Moore was at least a top 30 pick, certainly in the top 40 but otherwise good job.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

My problem with Lucas is you have an outside mid who doesn't have great disposal, which is something we really need.

I have always wanted Martin but I knew his stocks would rise come draft camp so he is now out of the picture.

I hope Rohan slides he has electrifying speed, great disposal and massive upside.

The other big question is whether Butcher will slide. If so I would take him in a heartbeat. He has had injuries this year and got alot of attention in the U18 championships because he was touted as the most dangerous player in the comp. His kicking is a little dodgy but his marking and agility is top class and looks a real footballer. I think he would be a bargain at pick 7 and would fit nicely into our developing list.

You dont actually beleive the rubbish you are hearing about Lucas's disposal, you want the kid to have touches and you want him because he can play all up the flanks, wings and in the center. If we cant get him then we will take Jetta at 7.

Lucas at 7 is a steal.

 

[coasting]

You dont actually beleive the rubbish you are hearing about Lucas's disposal, you want the kid to have touches and you want him because he can play all up the flanks, wings and in the center. If we cant get him then we will take Jetta at 7.

Lucas at 7 is a steal.

Lucas is more an outside mid IMO and you really shouldn't be targeting those types of players in the top 10 of the draft. If he could get more penetration on his kicks and prove to be a target up forward at AFL level then he could be another Andrew Embley I suppose but he could just as easily just be another Matt Rosa - a tallish midfielder running around in space and collecting a ton of the ball but wielding little influence on the result of the match.