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I wonder who you support1. Petracca
2. Oliver
3. Bontempelli
4. Gawn
5. Steele
6. Hawkins
7. Walsh
8. Miller
9. Darcy
10. Lyons
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I wonder who you support1. Petracca
2. Oliver
3. Bontempelli
4. Gawn
5. Steele
6. Hawkins
7. Walsh
8. Miller
9. Darcy
10. Lyons
Will limit the amount of possessions flop-Oliver gets tooSour grapes? Why don't you just concentrate on how the dogs are going to have to change their whole game style now that ducking and drawing free kicks isn't going to be rewarded like it was in 2021.
Here we go, I literally have one of the first posts stating Petracca. Obviously you have 3 of the best players all very worthy of the title. The issue is a certain one of your posters regularly highjacks numerous threads and turns them into primarily Melbourne discussions that would be much better served on the Melbourne board.Rubbish, it's all talk about some guy who hasn't done sh*t for 12 months.
That said, you can't have a thread about the best players in the AFL and not have a whole lot of really nice conversation about Melbourne Demons. We have three players who have a fair claim on that title.
Which is pretty bloody amazing tbh.
Coming from a dogs supporter. How rich. How bad is your culture going when you have a 2nd year player in Weightman flopping in about 4 contests on grand finals day. Can't blame the kid when he has Macrae (in my display pic) and Hunter as mentorsWill limit the amount of possessions flop-Oliver gets too
Stringer attends around 80% of Essendons centre bounces and wins the 5th most centre clearances per game, equal with Libba.Ahh nope, only starts mid for a minute now and again for a center clearance
I can’t see any Judd, Ablett or Franklin types who were at times talked about possibly being some of the best players ever. It’s funny though because going off the Brownlow certain individuals have never been so dominant; having no taggers is probably behind that thoughHas there ever been a weaker list of top players in the game?
Its far from judd, ablett, n.riewoldt, franklin level.I can’t see any Judd, Ablett or Franklin types who were at times talked about possibly being some of the best players ever. It’s funny though because going off the Brownlow certain individuals have never been so dominant; having no taggers is probably behind that though
Bont at 26 hasIts far from judd, ablett, n.riewoldt, franklin level.
its not even dangerfield, martin, fyfe, franklin level from 2015-19.
i dont think its evef been this weak. the game lacks stars.
petracca is the only one with genuine potential to be at the level of the greats of the past.
So what? Im not arguing he aint one of the best of the current batch. Im arguing the current batch isnt all that good compared to previous. If he doesnt have the competition for those awards then he can clean up in them. Regardless of how good the elite talent is they give out the same amount of awards each year.Bont at 26 has
4 x B&F
ALFCA player of the year
Leigh Matthews trophy
Premiership
4 x AA
He absolutely could end up at the same level as some of those other greats
And i was using his accolades as a measure of how well he is tracking, he absolutely could end up in that same bracket of player as Fyfe, Danger, Dusty if he keeps his level over the next 5 or so years.So what? Im not arguing he aint one of the best of the current batch. Im arguing the current batch isnt all that good compared to previous. If he doesnt have the competition for those awards then he can clean up in them. Regardless of how good the elite talent is they give out the same amount of awards each year.
if they said one year they aint giving out as many AA cos the talent wasnt good enough you might have a point.
You are a Geelong supporter, so I know you watched the prelim. You don't think big Maxy stands up as a great ruckman in any generation of footy for instance? Or that Bont who is being called potentially the greatest ever Bulldog player would be a star in any generation?So what? Im not arguing he aint one of the best of the current batch. Im arguing the current batch isnt all that good compared to previous. If he doesnt have the competition for those awards then he can clean up in them. Regardless of how good the elite talent is they give out the same amount of awards each year.
if they said one year they aint giving out as many AA cos the talent wasnt good enough you might have a point.
I rate max gawn the best ruckman in 30 years.You are a Geelong supporter, so I know you watched the prelim. You don't think big Maxy stands up as a great ruckman in any generation of footy for instance? Or that Bont who is being called potentially the greatest ever Bulldog player would be a star in any generation?
The game isn't as good as it used to be, the players aren't as good as they used to be blah blah blah
This sh*t happens every 5-6 years when the old crop of guns get old. Who will replace the Buckley's, Harvey's ext? Then Judd & Ablett come along. Then as they get old, who will replace them? Then Martin, Fyfe ext come along
It's the same boring theory........
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And yet has no x factor.Oliver won’t be knocked off his mantle. Probably for a long time yet either. Best in the league last year by a country mile. Will gap the opposition further in 2022.
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Most contested beasts have no speed, but Oliver is explosive.And yet has no x factor.
Most players decelerate at the contest. His former coach Brendan McCartney has stated he's never seen another player accelerate to the contest like Oliver.
He's tough, creative and for an inside mid he has plenty of X-factor. As this short clip of his 2021 shows.
So when comparing apples with apples, i.e. inside mids to other inside mids, he has plenty of ''X-factor''. But if you're comparing him to a crafty forward flanker then it will be different.
The problem with awards like the brownlow is that you can have a player have 35 and kick 3 and they still get the same amount of votes as a guy who can just get 30 but no one else stands out. Wines is a good player but the games he was getting 3 votes in he was exactly dominatingIs the lack of reigning Brownlow medalist Ollie Wines from this poll affirmation that the umpires couldn’t tell sh*t from clay?
Nope he finished 3rd in the coaches votes as well, he had an outstanding year and was a worthy winner.Is the lack of reigning Brownlow medalist Ollie Wines from this poll affirmation that the umpires couldn’t tell sh*t from clay?