Daniel Curtin Will Be The Best Player in The AFL in 5 Years Time

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Book it.

Everything I have seen of young Daniel, indicates he will be an absolute superstar.

• Exceptional skills: in traffic and running free,
• Beautiful kick of the ball
• Is versatile can go forward or play in the middle, even back
• Elite marking for a mid. Extremely difficult to match up on.
• Basically the next Bont

Feel free to bump this in 2030

Lol.lol.lol

 

[Cleric]

Wasnt it going to be Thilthorpe ?

We have so many options. Dawson, Rankine and young Draper coming up. Not to downplay that Worrell could well be the best defender in the game as well.
Sometimes it gets confusing.

 

[Cleric]

He has got a unique skill set. His height at 197cm, his contested marking, a really elite left foot, very quick for his size, and hard as nails. Oh yeah, can kick goals as well.
The question for me is what position he finally settles into.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Tigers could've had him but traded the pick for Jacob Hopper

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Jacob Hopper

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.3

5star

D

17.6

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

8.9

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

18.6

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.4

5star

.

 

[WillHayward]

Have you heard of Frejah? Or does your bias against anything Victorian cloud your judgement?

Been enjoying his work too.

What's your point ?

Very weird response that make no sense.

 

[Peter Doherty]

He is going to be a star but unfortunately Freo (the team he supported growing up) will get to see the best of him. We (Crows) have him until the end of 2028. He might extend again until he gets to FA but there is no way he plays his whole career at the crows.

2029. He was already contracted for next year and last week extended for another 3 years on top of that.

 

[Pistol Night]

He has got a unique skill set. His height at 197cm, his contested marking, a really elite left foot, very quick for his size, and hard as nails. Oh yeah, can kick goals as well.
The question for me is what position he finally settles into.

He’ll definitely fill a massive gap while you’re in the flag window..

 

[Golumless]

Maybe not the best in the league, but I'm certainly happy we have him. Seems on the verge of taking the league by storm.

Somewhat of a modern day Koutoufides.

 

[Cleric]

He is going to be a star but unfortunately Freo (the team he supported growing up) will get to see the best of him. We (Crows) have him until the end of 2028. He might extend again until he gets to FA but there is no way he plays his whole career at the crows.

That's the fear. He wasn't quick to renew, so you would assume he had to sit down and weigh up his option, plus the WA WAG doesnt help.
Hopefully she settles into the WAG club at Adelaide.

 

[Golumless]

That's the fear. He wasn't quick to renew, so you would assume he had to sit down and weigh up his option, plus the WA WAG doesnt help.
Hopefully she settles into the WAG club at Adelaide.

He was pretty quick to renew, seeing he had a contract here for 2026. Happened within 3 months of having a best 22 spot (and quite likely got paid more than a 1st year renewal).

At this point, as long as Adelaide gives a good club/culture for Dan, we should be able to retain him.

 

[Mop]

if you legit think West coast will be able to rebuild in 4 years with Tassie coming in, well I'm sorry to tell you it's gonna be a long road ahead, doesn't even look like you've hit rock bottom yet either.

You've lost generational key pillars in the last few years, McGovern, Kennedy and Shuey's don't grow on trees.

You lost me there.

Rock bottom? We're past that phase. Still crap, but at least there's some light now. Rock bottom was last year under Simpson.

Back to Dan the Man.

I don't think Curtin comes home myself. I see him buying into the Crows, a proper footballing club, and being Adelaide's captain / talisman.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see him in Blue and Gold. If Reid leaves, even if he doesn't we've got the cap room to make an offer he'll not want to refuse. I don't see Adelaide trading him for anything though - why would they?

 

[Golumless]

You lost me there.

Rock bottom? We're past that phase.

I don't think Curtin comes home myself. I see him buying into the Crows, a proper footballing club, and being Adelaide's captain / talisman.

I hope I'm wrong

You're only past the rock bottom phase once you're off the bottom of the table. Even then it could rear its ugly head if you're expected to make finals and implode back to the bottom 4.

 

[Cleric]

He was pretty quick to renew, seeing he had a contract here for 2026. Happened within 3 months of having a best 22 spot (and quite likely got paid more than a 1st year renewal).

At this point, as long as Adelaide gives a good club/culture for Dan, we should be able to retain him.

The club was offering an extension at the end of his first year. He took until half way through the next season to sign.

He was absolutely home sick when he first came over, which happens with the vast majority of kids who have to move, but getting settled into the side, playing good football, in a team entering their premiership window, sealed the deal.

Great to see. WC were in his ear, and they were silly not to throw a three year million dollar a year contract at him to get him back. They have cap space to burn, and if he didn't become the player we all think he will, they could have paid him less in his next contract. Getting them back is the key, and one mill a year in a team lucky to be able to spend 70% of their cap on talent, seems like the smart thing to do.

People said we were paying Rankine too much, but we got him back and it was worth every cent.

 

[Mop]

You're only past the rock bottom phase once you're off the bottom of the table. Even then it could rear its ugly head if you're expected to make finals and implode back to the bottom 4.

I disagree.
Rock bottom is when you're objectively playing like absolute shit with no sign of growth or future or anything. That was 12 months ago.

Whilst still well off the pace, there's clear identity and some clear talent.

I'll take it.

 

[Cleric]

You lost me there.

Rock bottom? We're past that phase. Still crap, but at least there's some light now. Rock bottom was last year under Simpson.

Back to Dan the Man.

I don't think Curtin comes home myself. I see him buying into the Crows, a proper footballing club, and being Adelaide's captain / talisman.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see him in Blue and Gold. If Reid leaves, even if he doesn't we've got the cap room to make an offer he'll not want to refuse. I don't see Adelaide trading him for anything though - why would they?

Nah, I think WC are still at the bottom of their rebuild.
Allen and Gov are gone at the end of the year, leaving massive holes in your key positions, the hardest positions to fill on the ground with quality.
Then the mids are average, with Reid looking less likely to stay then leave. On top of that if Tassie come in before you find the major missing peices, then its going to be a long slow rebuild.

 

[Mop]

Nah, I think WC are still at the bottom of their rebuild.
Allen and Gov are gone at the end of the year, leaving massive holes in your key positions, the hardest positions to fill on the ground with quality.
Then the mids are average, with Reid looking less likely to stay then leave. On top of that if Tassie come in before you find the major missing peices, then its going to be a long slow rebuild.

I'm conscious of not derailing the thread about WC talk, but I suppose I can tie it in with why Dan Curtin would opt out of coming home after his first deal pre- contract signing.

Adelaide have been in limbo for a few years. As a young man who really didn't want to leave, the allure to come home would've been strong, but you've got a good coach, a really good core of prime age players and Adelaide is a great city.
You've sold the kid the dream, he's showing it on the field.

12 months ago when he would've been evaluating West Coast are the opposite. We were in the dying embers of Adam Simpson's reign without any clear direction of which way we're heading.
We've not been competitive for what, two? Three seasons now?

This is where I think you and I disagree. We do lack some serious totems - McGovern is already gone. We lack an obvious defensive heir, that much is clear.

Up forward isn't a point of concern though. Allen will almost certainly leave, in part, because its one of the few areas we are perfectly fine for. Waterman and Allen occupy the same natural CHF role. Waterman has decided out of nowhere he's not delistbait, he's actually an extremely reliable and skilled forward.
We've got Jack Williams coming on nicely, we're trying to fit Bailey Williams in there, and now we've got Archer Reid and Jobe Shanahan trying to get in. We want Reid to be our genuine ruck because we don't rate Flynn, and Shanahan is clearly a natural forward.

So. KPD is where we lack, why WA talent like Dan Curtin and Jed Busslinger appeal so much to us as targets.

The thing is, I think we stop bottoming out before Tasmania start stealing the chocolates. I mean, I'm glad we didn't leave it any later.
We may be starting to be where Hawthorn are now by the time he's out of contract, young core with a clear identity and upward trajectory.
Fremantle should be firm top 4 by then if they aren't already by the end of the season.
Adelaide need to be too. If you deliver on where you should be, I'll bet you a BF premium membership that Curtin will be at your club past 2028.

 

[VinnieB]

Been enjoying his work too.

What's your point ?

Very weird response that make no sense.

No. You get it.

 

[crows dude]

He is going to be a star but unfortunately Freo (the team he supported growing up) will get to see the best of him. We (Crows) have him until the end of 2028. He might extend again until he gets to FA but there is no way he plays his whole career at the crows.

End of 2029

Currently contracted until end of 2026

Three year contact signed for 27 28 and 29

 

[Golumless]

The club was offering an extension at the end of his first year. He took until half way through the next season to sign.

He was absolutely home sick when he first came over, which happens with the vast majority of kids who have to move, but getting settled into the side, playing good football, in a team entering their premiership window, sealed the deal.

Great to see. WC were in his ear, and they were silly not to throw a three year million dollar a year contract at him to get him back. They have cap space to burn, and if he didn't become the player we all think he will, they could have paid him less in his next contract. Getting them back is the key, and one mill a year in a team lucky to be able to spend 70% of their cap on talent, seems like the smart thing to do.

People said we were paying Rankine too much, but we got him back and it was worth every cent.

Of course we did, that's due dilligence, however, would you sign a contract if you were in Dan's shoes at the end of the first year? You've been assigned a position that initially seems an easy way into the side (third def tall, which Dan would have absolutely killed) and due to a bit of misfortune you've got stuck in limbo and forced into an awkward positional change. That's a lot of potential negotiating power stripped away from you at that point.

Exactly, he got clarity and a well defined best 22 role and signed on pretty quickly after that. Not the type of player who is genuinely considering going home, just one who's smart enough to keep their options open.

You are stuck paying at least 95% of the total cap whether you have talent or not, so it's not like WCE could blow us out of the water at this point.

 

[VinnieB]

You lost me there.

Rock bottom? We're past that phase. Still crap, but at least there's some light now. Rock bottom was last year under Simpson.

Back to Dan the Man.

I don't think Curtin comes home myself. I see him buying into the Crows, a proper footballing club, and being Adelaide's captain / talisman.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see him in Blue and Gold. If Reid leaves, even if he doesn't we've got the cap room to make an offer he'll not want to refuse. I don't see Adelaide trading him for anything though - why would they?

I've got to say I think McQualter is a better coach than what many (me included) give him credit for.
I also think you have some good talent, but still need to work on bringing more in, alongside some good hard bodies.

Probably seen the worst and have something to build on.

 

[Cleric]

I'm conscious of not derailing the thread about WC talk, but I suppose I can tie it in with why Dan Curtin would opt out of coming home after his first deal pre- contract signing.

Adelaide have been in limbo for a few years. As a young man who really didn't want to leave, the allure to come home would've been strong, but you've got a good coach, a really good core of prime age players and Adelaide is a great city.
You've sold the kid the dream, he's showing it on the field.

12 months ago when he would've been evaluating West Coast are the opposite. We were in the dying embers of Adam Simpson's reign without any clear direction of which way we're heading.
We've not been competitive for what, two? Three seasons now?

This is where I think you and I disagree. We do lack some serious totems - McGovern is already gone. We lack an obvious defensive heir, that much is clear.

Up forward isn't a point of concern though. Allen will almost certainly leave, in part, because its one of the few areas we are perfectly fine for. Waterman and Allen occupy the same natural CHF role. Waterman has decided out of nowhere he's not delistbait, he's actually an extremely reliable and skilled forward.
We've got Jack Williams coming on nicely, we're trying to fit Bailey Williams in there, and now we've got Archer Reid and Jobe Shanahan trying to get in. We want Reid to be our genuine ruck because we don't rate Flynn, and Shanahan is clearly a natural forward.

So. KPD is where we lack, why WA talent like Dan Curtin and Jed Busslinger appeal so much to us as targets.

The thing is, I think we stop bottoming out before Tasmania start stealing the chocolates. I mean, I'm glad we didn't leave it any later.
We may be starting to be where Hawthorn are now by the time he's out of contract, young core with a clear identity and upward trajectory.
Fremantle should be firm top 4 by then if they aren't already by the end of the season.
Adelaide need to be too. If you deliver on where you should be, I'll bet you a BF premium membership that Curtin will be at your club past 2028.

I dont think there's any doubt that Curtin was considering his options. I'm not sure what they were offering him, but it should have been a three year, million a year to get him back. They can afford it cap wise, and really dont have many other players on big coin, maybe Kelly, but you do what you have to to get them to move.

Adelaide were down, but they managed to get some good players in via trade and delisted FAs.
Rankine and Dawson was a revelation, and without those two we arnt where we are, then the DFAs on Keays and Hinge also filled a spot, and I think you can add Keane with those two as well. Then last year the additions of ANB, Peatling and Cummins was the icing on the cake

We were lucky to be at the bottom at the right time with Thilthorpe, and the club has drafted really well with Curtin, Michaelanny, Worrell, Soligo, Rochelle and co.

It didn't just happen via the draft, which is why our rebuild wasn't that long. If you are relying on the draft alone, its a much longer route.

 

[Cleric]

Of course we did, that's due dilligence, however, would you sign a contract if you were in Dan's shoes at the end of the first year? You've been assigned a position that initially seems an easy way into the side (third def tall, which Dan would have absolutely killed) and due to a bit of misfortune you've got stuck in limbo and forced into an awkward positional change. That's a lot of potential negotiating power stripped away from you at that point.

Exactly, he got clarity and a well defined best 22 role and signed on pretty quickly after that. Not the type of player who is genuinely considering going home, just one who's smart enough to keep their options open.

You are stuck paying at least 95% of the total cap whether you have talent or not, so it's not like WCE could blow us out of the water at this point.

They absolutely could. They would be forward paying all their existing players to meet the minimum cap spend, banking that in hope of paying some big FAs.
You dont think they are paying all their c and b graders 800k a year? Oscar Allen would have been one of the higher paid, and he's gone, same as Gov, and the year before they lost Barras. Kelly and Waterman are now the next two highest paid you would think.
They would have a massive war chest ready to go.

 

[Dangerousfield]

North selecting Duursma (another medium marking lead up forward of which they have a glut of) ahead of talented positional needs such as Watson, Curtin, O'Sullivan and Caddy is going to go down as an all time draft blunder.

All four have hit the ground running and would immediately make them a 3-4 goal better side.

It's what North do, muck up draft picks and pick trading, they're the Premiers at it.

Curtin is a super exciting talent, OP is hopefully Nostradamus

 

[SSSSSS]

It's what North do, muck up draft picks and pick trading, they're the Premiers at it.

Curtin is a super exciting talent, OP is hopefully Nostradamus

What excites me about this next generation of footballers coming through are these super athletic versatile bigmen.

Jackson, Weddle, Curtin etc.

Pav, Goodes, Kouta and Blicavs came before them.

 

[Lingsface]

North selecting Duursma (another medium marking lead up forward of which they have a glut of) ahead of talented positional needs such as Watson, Curtin, O'Sullivan and Caddy is going to go down as an all time draft blunder.

All four have hit the ground running and would immediately make them a 3-4 goal better side.

At least Duursma and Curtin both have brothers coming through this year. Duursma looking to be the higher pick again and Curtin's brother is a monster I would guess 5 cm and 15 kg bigger than Curtin, having a pretty average championship though. Duursma brother a utility type quite skinny and having a decent but not as good as expected championship.