Opinion Best side 2018

[Fyre]

Arguably cost them the '09 grand final too. Lost count of how many marking contests he spoiled when a teammate was in a better position that day.

Not that we should be complaining about that.

 

[candiehappy]

Arguably cost them the '09 grand final too

allegedly it was due to Hawkins non goal.

Had nothing to do with their inability to kick a goal during the last quarter ........

 

[CatRiot]

Reckon Stanley could be turned into a key defender like Liam jones and tom Lonergan
He's agile, good off the ground and would do well IMO

Too shaky in defence. Not good at intercept marking and play reading.

 

[Beanstalk]

Here's my attempt:

FB: 24 Jed Bews, 25 Lachie Henderson, 44 Tom Stewart
HB: 2 Zach Tuohy, 7 Harry Taylor, 8 Jake Kolodjashnij
C: 22 Mitch Duncan, 16 Scott Selwood, 46 Mark Blicavs
HF: 4 Gary Ablett Jnr, 36 Stewart Crameri, 5 Nakia Cockatoo
FF: 10 Daniel Menzel, 26 Tom Hawkins, 34 James Parsons
R: 9 Zac Smith, 35 Patrick Dangerfield, 14 Joel Selwood
I/C: 27 Sam Menegola, 29 Cameron Guthrie, 3 Brandan Parfitt, 13 Lachlan Fogarty

Forward depth:
12 Wylie Buzza
6 Lincoln McCarthy
1 Rhys Stanley
28 Cory Gregson
32 Gryan Miers

Midfield depth:
11 Tim Kelly
21 Jordan Murdoch
18 Charlie Constable
33 George Horlin-Smith
37 Sam Simpson

Backline depth:
39 Zach Guthrie
40 Jackson Thurlow

Others:
15 Matthew Hayball
17 Esava Ratugolea
19 Quinton Narkle
20 Ryan Gardner
23 Aaron Black
30 Timm House
31 Jordan Cunico
38 Jack Henry
41 Jamaine Jones
42 Mark O'Connor
45 Ryan Abbott

 

[CatRiot]

Here's my attempt:

FB: 24 Jed Bews, 25 Lachie Henderson, 44 Tom Stewart
HB: 2 Zach Tuohy, 7 Harry Taylor, 8 Jake Kolodjashnij
C: 22 Mitch Duncan, 16 Scott Selwood, 46 Mark Blicavs
HF: 4 Gary Ablett Jnr, 36 Stewart Crameri, 5 Nakia Cockatoo
FF: 10 Daniel Menzel, 26 Tom Hawkins, 34 James Parsons
R: 9 Zac Smith, 35 Patrick Dangerfield, 14 Joel Selwood
I/C: 27 Sam Menegola, 29 Cameron Guthrie, 3 Brandan Parfitt, 13 Lachlan Fogarty

Forward depth:
12 Wylie Buzza
6 Lincoln McCarthy
1 Rhys Stanley
28 Cory Gregson
32 Gryan Miers

Midfield depth:
11 Tim Kelly
21 Jordan Murdoch
18 Charlie Constable
33 George Horlin-Smith
37 Sam Simpson

Backline depth:
39 Zach Guthrie
40 Jackson Thurlow

Others:
15 Matthew Hayball
17 Esava Ratugolea
19 Quinton Narkle
20 Ryan Gardner
23 Aaron Black
30 Timm House
31 Jordan Cunico
38 Jack Henry
41 Jamaine Jones
42 Mark O'Connor
45 Ryan Abbott

Our backline depth looks a bit thin... We should've kept Ruggles.

I reckon Kelly will be Best 22.

Keen to see how GAJ plays as a Fwd, his best position is in the midfield IMO.

 

[Cezz The Catter]

Here's my attempt:

FB: 24 Jed Bews, 25 Lachie Henderson, 44 Tom Stewart
HB: 2 Zach Tuohy, 7 Harry Taylor, 8 Jake Kolodjashnij
C: 22 Mitch Duncan, 16 Scott Selwood, 46 Mark Blicavs
HF: 4 Gary Ablett Jnr, 36 Stewart Crameri, 5 Nakia Cockatoo
FF: 10 Daniel Menzel, 26 Tom Hawkins, 34 James Parsons
R: 9 Zac Smith, 35 Patrick Dangerfield, 14 Joel Selwood
I/C: 27 Sam Menegola, 29 Cameron Guthrie, 3 Brandan Parfitt, 13 Lachlan Fogarty

Forward depth:
12 Wylie Buzza
6 Lincoln McCarthy
1 Rhys Stanley
28 Cory Gregson
32 Gryan Miers

Midfield depth:
11 Tim Kelly
21 Jordan Murdoch
18 Charlie Constable
33 George Horlin-Smith
37 Sam Simpson

Backline depth:
39 Zach Guthrie
40 Jackson Thurlow

Others:
15 Matthew Hayball
17 Esava Ratugolea
19 Quinton Narkle
20 Ryan Gardner
23 Aaron Black
30 Timm House
31 Jordan Cunico
38 Jack Henry
41 Jamaine Jones
42 Mark O'Connor
45 Ryan Abbott

Like it, im not sure on Crameri though. I think the jury is still out till i see a bit of JLT. Wouldnt mind seeing Gregson join the mix for forward pressure - under appreciated here.

 

[Cezz The Catter]

Our backline depth looks a bit thin... We should've kept Ruggles.

I reckon Kelly will be Best 22.

Keen to see how GAJ plays as a Fwd, his best position is in the midfield IMO.

Backline depth always looks skinny primarily because players can play defense more naturally. That’s not to discredit defenders - its just its easier to defend a goal then score one.

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

That's a pretty extreme viewpoint given Blicavs' best season at the club was as a ruckman.

Hang on mate. Just cos he won a Carji as a ruckman, doesn't mean he knows how to play the position. Now you heard seeds. Stop
Posting. Clearly none of us know what we're talking about. Including the people who awarded that Carji.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Hang on mate. Just cos he won a Carji as a ruckman, doesn't mean he knows how to play the position. Now you heard seeds. Stop
Posting. Clearly none of us know what we're talking about. Including the people who awarded that Carji.

Oh mate. You don't know how many lunatic opinions have been shared on the carji.

One known Guthrie "critic" bumped his thread when he had a bad B&F result this year... Yet discredits the clubs view that he's been better than Caddy based on the same award. Go figure.
Blicavs' B&F is given little credence because we missed finals. Someone better go tell that to Chappy and Scarlo as well. Probably Bobby Davis as well, he won his in a spoon year!

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

Oh mate. You don't know how many lunatic opinions have been shared on the carji.

One known Guthrie "critic" bumped his thread when he had a bad B&F result this year... Yet discredits the clubs view that he's been better than Caddy based on the same award. Go figure.
Blicavs' B&F is given little credence because we missed finals. Someone better go tell that to Chappy and Scarlo as well. Probably Bobby Davis as well, he won his in a spoon year!

Mate. For years now we've watched some of the einsteins in these forums crap on and on about how Blicavs isn't in our best 22. And waiting gleefully for him to be dropped or traded. **** me they must be shattered EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT. They actually remind me of tbe halfwits who have said Geelong are too
Old and aredinjahed since 2010.

Blicavs would be one of tbe first picked every week. And will continue to be.

 

[Mahlepi]

Oh mate. You don't know how many lunatic opinions have been shared on the carji.

One known Guthrie "critic" bumped his thread when he had a bad B&F result this year... Yet discredits the clubs view that he's been better than Caddy based on the same award. Go figure.
Blicavs' B&F is given little credence because we missed finals. Someone better go tell that to Chappy and Scarlo as well. Probably Bobby Davis as well, he won his in a spoon year!

i dont get why people get so worked up about the opinion of others
the vitriol and fanboys around this forum is funny

the club rookies an afl player and there is a thread going into over drive

 

[cynical]

Mate. For years now we've watched some of the einsteins in these forums crap on and on about how Blicavs isn't in our best 22. And waiting gleefully for him to be dropped or traded. **** me they must be shattered EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT. They actually remind me of tbe halfwits who have said Geelong are too
Old and aredinjahed since 2010.

Blicavs would be one of tbe first picked every week. And will continue to be.

The club will continue to fail then.

Blicavs hasnt done anything besides being a one trick pony as a 3rd man up ruck.

His role as a 2nd ruck/mid is worthless as he rarely has a good game as a mid (tagging a tall slow player sometimes works)

He'll be 27 next year and i'd expect that by the time he is 28 his AFL career will be over.

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

The club will continue to fail then.

Blicavs hasnt done anything besides being a one trick pony as a 3rd man up ruck.

His role as a 2nd ruck/mid is worthless as he rarely has a good game as a mid (tagging a tall slow player sometimes works)

He'll be 27 next year and i'd expect that by the time he is 28 his AFL career will be over.

Happy to have an account bet with you that he plays senior footy beyond 28. Let's see you put up or shut up.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Don't chicken out now cynical

i dont get why people get so worked up about the opinion of others
the vitriol and fanboys around this forum is funny

the club rookies an afl player and there is a thread going into over drive

 

[Shai]

Mate. For years now we've watched some of the einsteins in these forums crap on and on about how Blicavs isn't in our best 22. And waiting gleefully for him to be dropped or traded. **** me they must be shattered EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT. They actually remind me of tbe halfwits who have said Geelong are too
Old and aredinjahed since 2010.

Blicavs would be one of tbe first picked every week. And will continue to be.

Only reason I am replying is because of the bolded word, thanks for the laugh.. wtf does that mean.?

Best side..? A little early for me, want to see the preseason b4 I commit to a best side but very positive so far.

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

Only reason I am replying is because of the bolded word, thanks for the laugh.. wtf does that mean.?

Best side..? A little early for me, want to see the preseason b4 I commit to a best side but very positive so far.

Areinjahad

Verb

"To post on the internet after consuming box wine"

 

[Beanstalk]

Our backline depth looks a bit thin... We should've kept Ruggles.

I reckon Kelly will be Best 22.

Keen to see how GAJ plays as a Fwd, his best position is in the midfield IMO.

I really like Kelly also. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play 15 games.

I also prefer Gaz in the guts, agreed.

 

[Beanstalk]

Like it, im not sure on Crameri though. I think the jury is still out till i see a bit of JLT. Wouldnt mind seeing Gregson join the mix for forward pressure - under appreciated here.

Yeah I'm not sold either. I really like what I'm seeing from Wylie - I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him lining up in Round 1 instead.

I think we can probably afford to put more investment into a clumsy KPF now that we have some serious talent picking up the crumbs. Less so last season.

 

[Frappe]

Happy to have an account bet with you that he plays senior footy beyond 28. Let's see you put up or shut up.

I don't think anyone will take you up on that bet because he is a shoe-in to play...and that's what exasperates those that don't rate him.

 

[witsend]

Our backline depth looks a bit thin... We should've kept Ruggles.

I reckon Kelly will be Best 22.

Keen to see how GAJ plays as a Fwd, his best position is in the midfield IMO.

With GAJ in the mf i reckon they might start Danger at ff

 

[Nickoo]

Arguably cost them the '09 grand final too. Lost count of how many marking contests he spoiled when a teammate was in a better position that day.

Yeah but how many easy shots on goal did they stuff up that day? Gosh. So cocky just like in '97.


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[Ricketz]

Happy to have an account bet with you that he plays senior footy beyond 28. Let's see you put up or shut up.

If you predict that a player will fail, you will be eventually right. Its a standard for these sorts of posters - player will fail, we won't win the grandfinal, we can't play on the MCG. I have said it before, and I will say it again - this is not analysis, it offers nothing that a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters and somewhat less than the age of the universe could provide.

I mean what is cynical basing this prediction on? The limited preseason training footage we have seen, or his own internal prejudices? Given that it is the off season, there can only be one answer.

Im with you, Blicz will be still playing in 5 years time for the Cats. I expect him to transition to third man up defender - it was essentially his role as third man up ruck, and seems the natural evolution given we will lose Taylor in a year or two.

 

[ChookNorris]

Here's my attempt:

FB: 24 Jed Bews, 25 Lachie Henderson, 44 Tom Stewart
HB: 2 Zach Tuohy, 7 Harry Taylor, 8 Jake Kolodjashnij
C: 22 Mitch Duncan, 16 Scott Selwood, 46 Mark Blicavs
HF: 4 Gary Ablett Jnr, 36 Stewart Crameri, 5 Nakia Cockatoo
FF: 10 Daniel Menzel, 26 Tom Hawkins, 34 James Parsons
R: 9 Zac Smith, 35 Patrick Dangerfield, 14 Joel Selwood
I/C: 27 Sam Menegola, 29 Cameron Guthrie, 3 Brandan Parfitt, 13 Lachlan Fogarty

Forward depth:
12 Wylie Buzza
6 Lincoln McCarthy
1 Rhys Stanley
28 Cory Gregson
32 Gryan Miers

Midfield depth:
11 Tim Kelly
21 Jordan Murdoch
18 Charlie Constable
33 George Horlin-Smith
37 Sam Simpson

Backline depth:
39 Zach Guthrie
40 Jackson Thurlow

Others:
15 Matthew Hayball
17 Esava Ratugolea
19 Quinton Narkle
20 Ryan Gardner
23 Aaron Black
30 Timm House
31 Jordan Cunico
38 Jack Henry
41 Jamaine Jones
42 Mark O'Connor
45 Ryan Abbott

Bit slow for mine. Especially the forward line. 0 defensive pressure outside of Cockatoo and unproven Crameri. Parsons easiest omission here.

 

[cynical]

If you predict that a player will fail, you will be eventually right. Its a standard for these sorts of posters - player will fail, we won't win the grandfinal, we can't play on the MCG. I have said it before, and I will say it again - this is not analysis, it offers nothing that a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters and somewhat less than the age of the universe could provide.

I mean what is cynical basing this prediction on? The limited preseason training footage we have seen, or his own internal prejudices? Given that it is the off season, there can only be one answer.

Im with you, Blicz will be still playing in 5 years time for the Cats. I expect him to transition to third man up defender - it was essentially his role as third man up ruck, and seems the natural evolution given we will lose Taylor in a year or two.

lol seriously

I've given analysis on Blicavs many times as have other people.

Reasons he shouldnt be in the team

1. He cant ruck very well.
2. He cant play ruck/forward because he has no impact as a forward and cant take contested marks.
3. As a midfielder all he can do is tag big slow players.
4. He has poor awareness and poor disposal under pressure.
5. Having a player with poor agility and average disposal as a midfield link up player is a waste (when you can have actual players with skill).
6. He cant play as a defender because he doesnt read the play well enough and as a tall he cant take contested marks.
7. He has an extremely poor finals record over many years.

Why I think he'll be done at 28 is because most players who dont have good skills are done at that age. This is because their athletic abilities are no longer elite so they suddenly become very average.

You think he'll be a 3rd man up defender even though he cant read the play or mark very well. He has played a couple of games as a defender and he is 27 next year. Why not just play a kid instead.

The only reason he'd still be in the team in a couple of years is if we have no other 2nd ruck option.

 

[Ricketz]

lol seriously

I've given analysis on Blicavs many times as have other people.

Reasons he shouldnt be in the team

1. He cant ruck very well.
2. He cant play ruck/forward because he has no impact as a forward and cant take contested marks.
3. As a midfielder all he can do is tag big slow players.
4. He has poor awareness and poor disposal under pressure.
5. Having a player with poor agility and average disposal as a midfield link up player is a waste (when you can have actual players with skill).
6. He cant play as a defender because he doesnt read the play well enough and as a tall he cant take contested marks.
7. He has an extremely poor finals record over many years.

Why I think he'll be done at 28 is because most players who dont have good skills are done at that age. This is because their athletic abilities are no longer elite so they suddenly become very average.

You think he'll be a 3rd man up defender even though he cant read the play or mark very well. He has played a couple of games as a defender and he is 27 next year. Why not just play a kid instead.

The only reason he'd still be in the team in a couple of years is if we have no other 2nd ruck option.

Fair enough.

My responses below:

1. He doesn't have to ruck very well, he just has to relieve Smith, and he rucks well enough for that.
2. I wouldn't have him as a forward either.
3. Only spot needed for him in the midfield now is as second ruck.
4. I disagree. He is ranked 16th for the Cats on turnovers, and his disposal efficiency and clanger ranks are in the middle of the pack. I am not saying there isn't room for improvement, but if you are going to hack on a player you should probably apply the razor to everybody who is worse than him, right? I mean Dangerfield and Tuohy are turnover merchants, by comparison.
5. Just the same as point 3. We don't need to run him through the middle other than as back up ruck.
6. Clearly you are incorrect here. He is ranked 4th in the team for total contested marks this year. He can play the third man up role to chop out big defenders - he was the best in the league against the biggest players on the ground a year ago.
7. **** finals records. They mean jack shit - they are a tiny sample size and the ease with which you assume you can play against the best teams of the competition indicates you probably have never played finals yourself. That should cover that point on its own - but in finals where we have been smashed as a team, you blame one player? Why is the whole list not delisted next year, then?