Best thing happened to us....

[Captain_Brown_7]

St Kilda giving us a good old hiding was the best thing for this club. It not only has got the players back down to earth, but more importantly our supporters.

I was at the game yesterday and i spoke to a few people around me. The general feeling amongst everyone i spoke to was 'we are back', 'the boys are gonna kick a$$ today'. It was almost embarrasing how much people were expecting from the boys.

We are 2 years off beating any of the top 4 teams and we received the biggest indicator of this firstly in Round 1 and yet again yesterday. If we did happen to beat the Sainters yesterday, some of our supporters would be calling for premierships right about now. It just had to be put back into perspective.

A few on this board have mentioned how disgusted they were after yesterdays loss and how they were expecting us to come home with the points. The thing we have to realise is we were last in 2004. To think we are going to be in the top 8 or so teams is ridiculous. As Terry has stated, we just need to play consistent and competitve footy.

Its going to be a long and windy road for us so lets just enjoy it.

 

[IDGAF]

St Kilda giving us a good old hiding was the best thing for this club. It not only has got the players back down to earth, but more importantly our supporters.

I was at the game yesterday and i spoke to a few people around me. The general feeling amongst everyone i spoke to was 'we are back', 'the boys are gonna kick a$$ today'. It was almost embarrasing how much people were expecting from the boys.

We are 2 years off beating any of the top 4 teams and we received the biggest indicator of this firstly in Round 1 and yet again yesterday. If we did happen to beat the Sainters yesterday, some of our supporters would be calling for premierships right about now. It just had to be put back into perspective.

A few on this board have mentioned how disgusted they were after yesterdays loss and how they were expecting us to come home with the points. The thing we have to realise is we were last in 2004. To think we are going to be in the top 8 or so teams is ridiculous. As Terry has stated, we just need to play consistent and competitve footy.

Its going to be a long and windy road for us so lets just enjoy it.

I think i understand your POV CB7 but i don`t agree that it is best thing that could happen to us .

Over the spud years , particularlily the last 3 , we always managed to jag a few wins against bottom 4 teams , as we have done this year . But what i think is most important now is how we lose .

When you get pole-axed like we did on the weekend it shatters blokes confidence which is critical at this level .

I will say we are starting to make progress when we come up against a rated opponent with our heads held high after an 4 quarter , honourable loss . That , for mine , is more important than beating a fellow cellar-dweller.

The boys need to get the self-belief that they can match it with the pace - setters of the competition . I don`t care if we lose to the top sides , as long as we are competitive and have a go , not continue this long history that we are establishing here of these types of games being over at half time .

We all know it is going to be a long road back , and i`m sure TW and co. are working feverishly at it but the first thing that has to be addressed is these horrible losses we have perfected whereby games are effectively over before half time

 

[Thrice3]

St Kilda giving us a good old hiding was the best thing for this club. It not only has got the players back down to earth, but more importantly our supporters.

I was at the game yesterday and i spoke to a few people around me. The general feeling amongst everyone i spoke to was 'we are back', 'the boys are gonna kick a$$ today'. It was almost embarrasing how much people were expecting from the boys.

We are 2 years off beating any of the top 4 teams and we received the biggest indicator of this firstly in Round 1 and yet again yesterday. If we did happen to beat the Sainters yesterday, some of our supporters would be calling for premierships right about now. It just had to be put back into perspective.

A few on this board have mentioned how disgusted they were after yesterdays loss and how they were expecting us to come home with the points. The thing we have to realise is we were last in 2004. To think we are going to be in the top 8 or so teams is ridiculous. As Terry has stated, we just need to play consistent and competitve footy.

Its going to be a long and windy road for us so lets just enjoy it.

I think you will find alot of Richmond supporters were more filthy over the fact we were not competitive which is the key aspect behind Terry's plan. I didnt expect us to win, but I gave us a chance too, still got belted by 68pts, not the end of the world.

 

[Bojangles17]

I think you will find alot of Richmond supporters were more filthy over the fact we were not competitive which is the key aspect behind Terry's plan. I didnt expect us to win, but I gave us a chance too, still got belted by 68pts, not the end of the world.

your right it isnt the end of the world...although it will be some time before we get the mix right , at the very least we are richer in the reserves of talent that we have in the wings than what we have been before....One thing to remember at this point is that there is no stkilda behind every street post...there are plenty of wins ahead of us.within our weight division..bare in mind two of the sides we dished up had impressive wins on the weekend...

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

We needed a reality check.

But 11 goals? We just couldnt do a thing right yesterday, I believe we are better than that.

It's not the end of the world though.

Port
Carlton &
Collingwood coming up

we could easily win all 3, or we could easily lose all 3.

I will stick my neck out and predict we will win 2 out of 3.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

St Kilda giving us a good old hiding was the best thing for this club. It not only has got the players back down to earth, but more importantly our supporters.

Partly agree.

Maybe it's the best thing to happen to us - as in, the BigFooty Richmond Board. Not that we don't all collectively deserve some success after years (decades!) of loyalty and persistence in supporting a crappy team. But I too went to the game with a handful of Tiger fans who before the match genuinely rated our chances of winning as being quite high.

Optimistic hopefulness is one thing - illogical blindfoldedness is another.

They all looked at me astounded when I insisted to them pre-game that I thought we were playing against this year's premiers, and that if we finished up 30 points of the Saints it would indicate that we'd made some real improvement on last season.

I don't want to be perceived as the wet blanket, but personally I'll leave all of that one-eyed bluster and spittle to those who will end up being disappointed more often than not.

Yesterday's loss, however, was not "the best thing for the club". The best thing for the Richmond Football Club would be to actually be able to match it on the big stage with a quality opponent, something we've only been able to do maybe five times in over 200 games over the last decade.

Defeat is not the best thing for perennial losers like Richardson, Chaffey and Kellaway who only know the arse end of the ladder, and have had defeat embossed upon their service record.

Defeat is not the best thing for Gaspar and Campbell, who have consistently beaten their immediate opponents over their careers, despite the train wreck going on around them, and them misdirected animosity of blinkered Tiger fans.

And defeat is certainly not the best thing for the next generation of Tiger champs like Coughlan, Hyde, Deledio etc, who need to become addicted to success through constant exposure to winning scoreboards.

 

[itsintheblood]

St Kilda giving us a good old hiding was the best thing for this club. It not only has got the players back down to earth, but more importantly our supporters.

I was at the game yesterday and i spoke to a few people around me. The general feeling amongst everyone i spoke to was 'we are back', 'the boys are gonna kick a$$ today'. It was almost embarrasing how much people were expecting from the boys.

We are 2 years off beating any of the top 4 teams and we received the biggest indicator of this firstly in Round 1 and yet again yesterday. If we did happen to beat the Sainters yesterday, some of our supporters would be calling for premierships right about now. It just had to be put back into perspective.

A few on this board have mentioned how disgusted they were after yesterdays loss and how they were expecting us to come home with the points. The thing we have to realise is we were last in 2004. To think we are going to be in the top 8 or so teams is ridiculous. As Terry has stated, we just need to play consistent and competitve footy.

Its going to be a long and windy road for us so lets just enjoy it.

I for one never said we would win this game. All I was hoping for was a contest and to be competitive. They were in 2nd gear all night and it would have been frightfull if reiwoldt played too. We are a long long way off and our list still contains players who are not afl standard. We all know who they are.

 

[madtiger2005]

I always thought if we stuck with our best midfield we were a chance, but we didn't stick with our best midfield. We also turned the ball over on countless occasions by foot under no pressure. These errors came by skillful players, such as Deledio and Brown etc. I suppose Deledio is just getting used to these big match days and it would be pretty intimidating for a 17 year old. But over all we had about 15 of these kicking errors and there is no reason for these turnovers from the experienced players. St Kilda are a top side, but we contributed a heap to their big win

 

[Stafford678]

i still reckon we were fairly competitive, just smashed out of the middle but Tuck and cogs where good, stafford up forward was great, and Gasper, A.K and Hall where solid down back, with the deleivery and dominace of the midfield to the saints, they could have smashed us by more.

I think Chris Newman should get a go in the midfield this week, perhaps put Lids in the back pocket/half back just see how he goes in there defesnivley and try and use some of his poise in the backline.

Id drop Krak, and Hyde will probably be injured and bring in Tambling and Meyer, Chaffey to get another chance, he had a decent game on Carr the other week

 

[cairo tiger]

2 more years of terrys plan and we will have an outfit, you do not know what you are talking about mt....but this is no reason to lay down, we must fight at every opportunity

 

[oxx]

For us to beat a top 4 side we need 2 things to happen on the day.

1 - Us to be absolutely firing.

2- Them to be having an average to shocking day.

The 3 wins this year were however important ones.
Not only did it give the boys 3 weeks of hope and belief but it more or less showed the supporters that when fighting in our own weight division we can be held accountable to the point of victory.
We are obviously light years and afew KPPs away from being a genuine contender and should respect the fact we are.

A fit Tambling will be a welcome inclusion.

 

[Colonel Matrix]

I couldn't believe how easily the saints rebounded out of our forward line and got the ball into their fifty with little or no midfield pressure, I think the backman did a great job considering how often the ball came into the saints forward line.... It didn't make for good viewing.

 

[madtiger2005]

i know what I'm talking about Cairo. I was at the game to see the turnovers. You really shouldn't have much to say about that.

 

[IDGAF]

i know what I'm talking about Cairo. I was at the game to see the turnovers. You really shouldn't have much to say about that.

What the F... did turnovers have to do with Cairo`s post ?

All he said that in this game you have to put up a fight which is the very essence of any competitive sport .

What makes you think that you have more right to comment on matters to do with the RFC , than anyone else ?

People live on the other side of the planet , and have lives , and run businesses , and are parents , and suffer illness , and have financial problems , and have family commitments and have 101 other reasons why they may not be able to make it to the footy every week .

Sometimes i actually have a little sympathy towards you but this continued viewpoint you have that you have more right than others is just plain f..ken bullschit and just illustrates what a simpleton you are .

 

[CJH]

In my view, we were as competitive as we could be. I was interested to note that the number of Inside 50's each team had was about the same. The key difference was in the quality rather than the quantity.

St Kilda went Inside 50 around 50 times for 37 scoring shost (of which 60% were goals)

We also went Inside 50 around 50 times for 24 scoring shots (of which 46% were goals)

Quality, not quantity. Once we can get our skill level to match that of St. Kilda, then we will be a chance.

 

[itsintheblood]

In my view, we were as competitive as we could be. I was interested to note that the number of Inside 50's each team had was about the same. The key difference was in the quality rather than the quantity.

St Kilda went Inside 50 around 50 times for 37 scoring shost (of which 60% were goals)

We also went Inside 50 around 50 times for 24 scoring shots (of which 46% were goals)

Quality, not quantity. Once we can get our skill level to match that of St. Kilda, then we will be a chance.

I feel we are still a long way off the pace CJH. We can't rely on stafford to kick our goals and richo struggles on the smaller grounds. The Dome doesnt suit him at all. Our crumbers let us down badly on Sunday. Can't criticise the defence much with the quality of delivery coming into the defensive 50.

We need a couple of quality KPP's badly.

 

[JeffDunne]

Please don't take this as a troll . . . but I think Richmond's problem on Sunday was they paid us too much respect.

In the first quarter, I think after the Brown goal, the reaction of the Richmond team was that of a side down by 10 in time on of the last. Given they were only 4 goals down in the first, I thought it demonstrated they didn't believe they could win. Coming off three wins I found it bizarre.

No doubt belief is something that will come as the side improves but I think you still have too many senior players conditioned to losing and giving away games early.

 

[IDGAF]

Please don't take this as a troll . . . but I think Richmond's problem on Sunday was they paid us too much respect.

In the first quarter, I think after the Brown goal, the reaction of the Richmond team was that of a side down by 10 in time on of the last. Given they were only 4 goals down in the first, I thought it demonstrated they didn't believe they could win. Coming off three wins I found it bizarre.

No doubt belief is something that will come as the side improves but I think you still have too many senior players conditioned to losing and giving away games early.

Not trolling ... just offering insightful criticism that is very close to the mark

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

What the F... did turnovers have to do with Cairo`s post ?

All he said that in this game you have to put up a fight which is the very essence of any competitive sport .

What makes you think that you have more right to comment on matters to do with the RFC , than anyone else ?

People live on the other side of the planet , and have lives , and run businesses , and are parents , and suffer illness , and have financial problems , and have family commitments and have 101 other reasons why they may not be able to make it to the footy every week .

Sometimes i actually have a little sympathy towards you but this continued viewpoint you have that you have more right than others is just plain f..ken bullschit and just illustrates what a simpleton you are .

Here Here IDGAF

its what I have been saying since this clown first started posting here.

I rank MT's views as high as I do Spud Frawleys..... non existent.

 

[1980]

Losing for a long time didnt seem to hurt the Saints. I still recall when Blight was sacked they had a couple of seasons where they didnt win many games.

So much for confidence coming from winning.

I think the worst thing for the young players is high expectations. A good coach will help them learn from losses like last weekend. A bad coach makes excuses and spins on about cherry ripes.

I'd love us to be competitive, but realistic enough to expect it will take longer than 4 games

 

[Colonel Matrix]

Unopposed rebound footy, I don't think I like it. What is everone elses opinion? I just hated how often St.Kilda ran the ball from our forward line all the way into their 50 unopposed.. What are your thoughts?

 

[Big Punt]

Unopposed rebound footy, I don't think I like it. What is everone elses opinion? I just hated how often St.Kilda ran the ball from our forward line all the way into their 50 unopposed.. What are your thoughts?

Yeah I know what you mean. I like the idea of playing a more attacking brand of footy, but not at the expense of foregoing accountability.

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

Losing for a long time didnt seem to hurt the Saints. I still recall when Blight was sacked they had a couple of seasons where they didnt win many games.

So much for confidence coming from winning.

I think the worst thing for the young players is high expectations. A good coach will help them learn from losses like last weekend. A bad coach makes excuses and spins on about cherry ripes.

I'd love us to be competitive, but realistic enough to expect it will take longer than 4 games

Spot on 1980.

There is no doubt we are heading in the right direction, but the expectations on us if we had of beaten the Sainters would have been huge and unrealistic.

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

The best thing for the Richmond Football Club would be to actually be able to match it on the big stage with a quality opponent, something we've only been able to do maybe five times in over 200 games over the last decade.

GOJJ, there is nothing i would enjoy more than to see the boys hold their own against a quality opposition and i totally agree with what you have said in regards to us only coming to play in 5 of 200 games.

However, the point i am trying to express refers directly to the short-run (i.e this season). If we had of won, we would have notched up 4-in-a-row and beaten a quality opposition (even though they were missing 3 of their starting 18). IMO, this would have been dangerous. Expectations would have been through the roof both in the media and with some of our supporters.

 

[madtiger2005]

Hey IDGAF, go read Cairos reply again and you might see mt mentioned in there. Dumbcnut. I assumed you weren't at the game because you didn't seem to notice the obvious 15 or so shocking kicking turnovers by some of our so called more skillfull players under no pressure at all. That would be one of the reasons why we lost by so much. I think your head has been brain washed with stinky Tool music lol