Big Cricket Thread

[larrikin]

Batting performance was under-rated, wasn't a great pitch. Nice hitting from Agar at the end but they bowled him some pies (Patterson got some too).

 

[Tugga27]

First loss of the season coming up.

O ye of little faith.

 

[ep2018]

O ye of little faith.

Story of my life.

 

[The Passenger]

Fun fact - Root's 3/99 match figures are the fourth best from an English spinner in Australia since the 2002/03 series (4 series and 2 tests now). Tough times.

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[Truckosaurus]

Is there a more overrated T20 bat than Agar?

This also aged poorly.

 

[Agent93]

Scorchers finally get a bash boost point!

Except for the other one we got in the first game.

 

[Doashuey]

I hope Carey grows into the role cause Im not still sold on him yet

Really?
He already looks superior to Paine with both bat and gloves. He let his first bye of the series through last night when Lyon spun one back the other way and should have hit the stumps.
He is better than I expected and think he will grow enormously in the next couple of years. Potential to be Gilly mk2.

 

[RanaNaved]

I never liked Tim Paine. He's such a little smartarse, his captaincy wasn't very good and he was just a decent player.

Much prefer having Carey in the team.

 

[Brolga]

Surely February 22nd next year has to become Richie Benaud Day?

22/02/2022

 

[kane249]

Smith's nous has really shone through these last 2 tests.

Been a few times bowlers/fielders have pointed to him after a wicket, so looks like it was a tactical suggestion at the time from him.

Despite his failings during sandpapergate, he's still the best captain IMO. Get the feeling as Cummings second in command he will still be pulling the strings.

 

[Bender_]

Smith's nous has really shone through these last 2 tests.

Been a few times bowlers/fielders have pointed to him after a wicket, so looks like it was a tactical suggestion at the time from him.

Despite his failings during sandpapergate, he's still the best captain IMO. Get the feeling as Cummings second in command he will still be pulling the strings.

Lack of outrage shows Smith’s Sandpaper punishment was way too harsh – The Roar

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[kane249]

Lack of outrage shows Smith’s Sandpaper punishment was way too harsh – The Roar

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I would have been fine with

Bancroft 6 months
Smith 6 months
Warner 12 months or harsher

Warner getting the most junior member of the team to carry out his dirty work is one of the most gutless forms of cheating i've ever seen

 

[FKASC]

Smith's nous has really shone through these last 2 tests.

Been a few times bowlers/fielders have pointed to him after a wicket, so looks like it was a tactical suggestion at the time from him.

Despite his failings during sandpapergate, he's still the best captain IMO. Get the feeling as Cummings second in command he will still be pulling the strings.

You could tell Cummins was only captaining by proxy in the first test.

 

[Bender_]

I would have been fine with

Bancroft 6 months
Smith 6 months
Warner 12 months or harsher

Warner getting the most junior member of the team to carry out his dirty work is one of the most gutless forms of cheating i've ever seen

The list of other captains and even Shane Warne's indiscretions and disciplines makes it look like a fair bit of an overreaction to Smith.

 

[Astro7]

Smith's nous has really shone through these last 2 tests.

Been a few times bowlers/fielders have pointed to him after a wicket, so looks like it was a tactical suggestion at the time from him.

Despite his failings during sandpapergate, he's still the best captain IMO. Get the feeling as Cummings second in command he will still be pulling the strings.

Agree, although the only thing that irritated me (immensely) about Sandpapergate and Tim Paines exit was having to watch grown men cry in public/on international TV!?
Nothing worse than blubbering in public - don't get me wrong, I don't have problem at all with males/men crying or expressing their emotions - but not when they're guilty and have been found out! Sure it's remorseful, but I think you just admit your guilt, apologise, made a bad choice, won't happen again, and take what's coming...not carry on like a naughty schoolboy!! Anyway, the Poms certainly milked it for all it was worth, wearing their crying cricketer faces and calling out 'boo-hoo-hoo"...so embarrassing.
Ok, come at me, shoot me down in flames!

 

[Truckosaurus]

Boland added to the squad for Boxing Day. Surely we aren't scraping the barrel already.

 

[Dazzler9]

Boland added to the squad for Boxing Day. Surely we aren't scraping the barrel already.

Probably to replace Harris as an opener.

 

[THE A5]

Boland added to the squad for Boxing Day. Surely we aren't scraping the barrel already.

It speaks volumes about the Aussie fast bowling depth atm and especially the youngsters. At 25 Richo is considered young. 10 years ago we had cummo/starc/hazelwood/Patto coming through and they were 17-21 at the time.

 

[Brolga]

Surely February 22nd next year has to become Richie Benaud Day?

22/02/2022

Sorry team.
The ODI Aus v NZ in Hobart is on 02/02/22
Still works!

 

[Ishmael_]

Agree, although the only thing that irritated me (immensely) about Sandpapergate and Tim Paines exit was having to watch grown men cry in public/on international TV!?
Nothing worse than blubbering in public - don't get me wrong, I don't have problem at all with males/men crying or expressing their emotions - but not when they're guilty and have been found out! Sure it's remorseful, but I think you just admit your guilt, apologise, made a bad choice, won't happen again, and take what's coming...not carry on like a naughty schoolboy!! Anyway, the Poms certainly milked it for all it was worth, wearing their crying cricketer faces and calling out 'boo-hoo-hoo"...so embarrassing.
Ok, come at me, shoot me down in flames!

Agreed this new trend of grown men and women crying on TV - politicians even - comes across as performative, manipulative and frankly embarrassing.

You're 30 something year old men who cheated (both types) and got caught. I could understand getting a bit choked up, but spare me the crocodile tears.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

It speaks volumes about the Aussie fast bowling depth atm and especially the youngsters. At 25 Richo is considered young. 10 years ago we had cummo/starc/hazelwood/Patto coming through and they were 17-21 at the time.

Considering green is 22 and being managed speaks volumes on how they view younger bowlers .

Both Cummins and Patterson have horrible injury histories. Same with a lot of state bowlers.
That's a big reason fast bowlers aren't considered for being captain

Meredith who i thought should be inline for a call up has also been injured.

 

[Astro7]

Agreed this new trend of grown men and women crying on TV - politicians even - comes across as performative, manipulative and frankly embarrassing.

You're 30 something year old men who cheated (both types) and got caught. I could understand getting a bit choked up, but spare me the crocodile tears.

And the Pollies! The recent sexual deviants caught out then crying as though they're the victims...Grrrr. The female victims didn't cry and they had every right to..
Anyway, we digress from Cricket..I only watch the Ashes, and loving it so far!

 

[Ljp86]

I would have been fine with

Bancroft 6 months
Smith 6 months
Warner 12 months or harsher

Warner getting the most junior member of the team to carry out his dirty work is one of the most gutless forms of cheating i've ever seen

The bans given to Bancroft, Smith and Warner by Cricket Australia was a hysterical overreaction and trial by media at its finest. While all three players did the wrong thing and the fact that ball tampering is frowned upon amongst the cricketing community (plus also against the rules), the offence is the on lower scale of offending, so much so the ICC only banned one player, Smith, for a whopping one game. Bancroft wasn't suspended by the ICC and neither was Warner.

I certainly don't agree with what took place on the field but banning people for such a long length of time for putting paper on a ball is utterly ridiculous.

 

[kane249]

The bans given to Bancroft, Smith and Warner by Cricket Australia was a hysterical overreaction and trial by media at its finest. While all three players did the wrong thing and the fact that ball tampering is frowned upon amongst the cricketing community (plus also against the rules), the offence is the on lower scale of offending, so much so the ICC only banned one player, Smith, for a whopping one game. Bancroft wasn't suspended by the ICC and neither was Warner.

I certainly don't agree with what took place on the field but banning people for such a long length of time for putting paper on a ball is utterly ridiculous.

Compare it to India when Tendulkar got done for ball tampering, he only got a suspended sentence as well.

Mike Denness and Indian cricket team incident - Wikipedia

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Tendulkar's ball tampering was only one small part of that shit show though.

 

[Ljp86]

Compare it to India when Tendulkar got done for ball tampering, he only got a suspended sentence as well.

Mike Denness and Indian cricket team incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tendulkar's ball tampering was only one small part of that sh*t show though.

Yes, they were somewhat out of control at that point, that was back when the ICC actually had some balls though.

Ball tampering has been prevalent throughout the game and there have been numerous instances of it. I recall Shahid Afridi biting the ball some years ago, Faf du Plessis has been found guilty twice of ball tampering, the second occasion was against Australia and he was appointed captain of South Africa about a month later. There have also been numerous instances of England doing it too.

Ball tampering - Wikipedia

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No ridiculous 12 months bans though, complete overreaction by CA and a perfect example of trial by media in Australia.