There’s always one player at AFc that seems to be overlooked for way too long.
True that! It seems made up that Taylor Walker played his entire first season in the 2s.
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There’s always one player at AFc that seems to be overlooked for way too long.
I’m livid if Nank misses.
There’s always one player at AFc that seems to be overlooked for way too long.
First it was Dude, then Woz, now Nank
No, it was never about 'playing through injury', this has become an AFC urban myth. What he said was that he pushes players to train at high intensity, regardless of injury, so that they can determine their limits. The principle being that if you can train at high intensity whilst carrying injury, then you're ok to play. Whereas, historically, we've placed our injured senior players in cotton wool, hoping they can get the job done on the weekend. Burgess' philisophy is that if you can't continue to train at the intensity required, then there's no hope of you playing at it.
That people have come to interpret that as 'playing injured players is a Burgess philosophy' continues to amuse me.
I am disappointed that Nank will miss out.
What is the thing with Cook with many posters on this Board. Did anyone watch the Scratchie against Poort Pear let alone Cook’s form in the SANFL for the last three years. But,but,but he has a fantastic highlights reel and I love how he sells candy.
I seem to recall bigman being rather surprised and complementary of a fair amount of his pre season training form?Regardless of whether you think Nankervis should play (he should), the idea that Hamill is still being given one of the precious 26 spots in the trial match is a joke. He simply doesn't have it. Move on and try someone else.
How about last year when he had a decent game against Melbourne and was dropped?
Nice story Bros….Has looked ok at AFL level for premiership points. But must admit, I haven't seen SANFL, scratchie or his form on the training deck. Obviously, the least valuable determinant is actual AFL output. Did you happen to notice where he went wrong with his running patterns?
I seem to recall bigman being rather surprised and complementary of a fair amount of his pre season training form?
Unless he's all of a sudden become Grant Birchall then not sure he's worth investing time into over the Nank.
AgreeI am disappointed that Nank will miss out.
What is the thing with Cook with many posters on this Board. Did anyone watch the Scratchie against Poort Pear let alone Cook’s form in the SANFL for the last three years. But,but,but he has a fantastic highlights reel and I love how he sells candy.
I’d love to know the thing they’re trying to get him to work onI’m livid if Nank misses.
There’s always one player at AFc that seems to be overlooked for way too long.
First it was Dude, then Woz, now Nank
Nice story Bros….
The Facts
1) Prior to Brayden’s selection for the Melbourne game he had “racked up” an average of 15 disposals and 0.75 goals per game (the new David Mackay) in his 4 previous games in the SANFL, playing predominantly on the wing.
2) With Rachele suspended, Laird injured, McHenry illness, Michaelanney managed and Sholl omitted we brought in FIVE SANFL players (Cook, Crouch, Schoenberg, Nankervis and Hately).
3) IMHO Cook had a reasonable game against the Demons with a Mackay like 15 disposals and 2 tackles in 84% TOG mostly playing on the wing. Of the other SANFL promotions, Crouch had 22 disposals and 9 tackles in 76% TOG, Schoenberg had 23 disposals and 3 tackles, Nankervis had 16 disposals and 1 tackle playing mainly off half back, Hately was the sub.
4) With Laird, Soligo and Michalanney returning (and Rankine and Murray injured) someone had to go. We retained Nankervis, Crouch and Schoenberg (which of these would you have dropped?), dropped Cook and Hately (sub) and moved Sloane to the sub. Clearly poor decisions by our selectors since we only belted Poort Pear by 8 goals.
Regarding running patterns (I appreciate it is less obvious on the tellie at the golf club), Brayden just seems to run to the wrong spots. It could be the fact that he was a bit older when he took up footie.
P.S. Did you add to the four games you have attended at Adelaide Oval since 2016 (two of them Pear matches) that you mentioned in a post a bit over a year ago?
PPS. Do you still claim that the Crows finances are in disarray and we will never be able to get a loan for new club rooms?After all you were absolutely accurate in stating that the AFC was an ongoing concern ?
No, it was never about 'playing through injury', this has become an AFC urban myth. What he said was that he pushes players to train at high intensity, regardless of injury, so that they can determine their limits. The principle being that if you can train at high intensity whilst carrying injury, then you're ok to play. Whereas, historically, we've placed our injured senior players in cotton wool, hoping they can get the job done on the weekend. Burgess' philisophy is that if you can't continue to train at the intensity required, then there's no hope of you playing at it.
That people have come to interpret that as 'playing injured players is a Burgess philosophy' continues to amuse me.
I was critical that we played Butts in the early games last year. He was struggling with a shoulder injury and seemed reluctant to spoil with his bad arm. As it happens, he gradually improved and was starting to play some good footy before a different injury occurred followed by his foot injury late in the season.Good distinction. We do see a few of our players playing injured though - Butts last year a good example - and I would have thought that decision would sit firmly with Burgess and his team as opposed to the coaches?
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I was critical that we played Butts in the early games last year. He was struggling with a shoulder injury and seemed reluctant to spoil with his bad arm. As it happens, he gradually improved and was starting to play some good footy before a different injury occurred followed by his foot injury late in the season.
I’m not sure if this proves his selection was right or wrong but it was very frustrating watching him running around trying to avoid Richard Kimble.
As expected you prefer to chuck s**t than respond to the points I have made.Yeah no way would it have been reasonable for the club to give a guy 2 AFL games when he played a “reasonable” game against a top 4 side at the G.
It’s laughable you’re comparing his disposal count with a bloke who we picked for over 200 games and thinking you’re on a winner.
It’s a shame you went to so much effort with your usual arrogance only to make a s**t point
You don’t think you chuck s**t? Pretty hypocritical of you there.As expected you prefer to chuck s**t than respond to the points I have made.
Cook was brought in to play on the wing despite pretty average form in the SANFL. He literally was the last (wing)man standing. Everyone agreed that Sholl’s form had steadily declined and should be dropped. Soligo was really struggling in interstate games and it was a good move to rest him. Sloane’s experiment as a wingman was no longer working.
The choices were
1) Bring back Soligo and drop Cook. Chayce Jones had been moved to the wing and was looking promising and we were also giving Hinge and Smith some time on the wing.
2) Move Cook to half back and drop Nankervis. Cook had struggled defending in the SANFL so this wasn’t a great idea.
3) Drop Murphy and play Cook as a high half forward even though Cook had had limited experience as a forward in the SANFL up to that point in the season.
4) Play Cook as the sub and drop Sloane. This was my preference but no doubt the usual suspects would have been outraged if we played him as a sub.
Brayden had a good game when our Twos ripped the Magpies apart but his form was just O.K. In the Twos for the rest of the season.
You don’t think you chuck s**t? Pretty hypocritical of you there.
I did address your points, you’ve just chosen to delete them when you quoted me and then complain I didn’t, that’s quite odd.
Usual suspects, see you’ve done it again, you put a target on your back. You’ve even said you would have preferred Cook as sub over Sloane and the “usual suspects” would have preferred this too.
You completely downplayed Cooks game against Melbourne, which given it was his first AFL game in a long time, playing against a top 4 side at the G, it was a good performance and showed he could play at this level. You’re hanging your hat on SANFL form too much when some players just excel at the higher level and Cook has played some decent AFL footy for a kid.
I think in your metaphor, Butts is Richard Kimble?I was critical that we played Butts in the early games last year. He was struggling with a shoulder injury and seemed reluctant to spoil with his bad arm. As it happens, he gradually improved and was starting to play some good footy before a different injury occurred followed by his foot injury late in the season.
I’m not sure if this proves his selection was right or wrong but it was very frustrating watching him running around trying to avoid Richard Kimble.
He's hardly a troll. He's one of the better posters here. Pretty much every post explains his thinking and gives evidence for it.He's a troll, if he posts more than 2 lines, it's a waste of time reading it.
You don’t think you chuck s**t? Pretty hypocritical of you there.
I did address your points, you’ve just chosen to delete them when you quoted me and then complain I didn’t, that’s quite odd.
Usual suspects, see you’ve done it again, you put a target on your back. You’ve even said you would have preferred Cook as sub over Sloane and the “usual suspects” would have preferred this too.
He's hardly a troll. He's one of the better posters here. Pretty much every post explains his thinking and gives evidence for it.
You might disagree, but that doesn't make him a troll.
I think he said the Usual Suspects would have complained about this?
Sloane being dropped would have been the better move in my opinion as well, but it wasn't black and white, and we did win well the following week with the team they chose. Cook didn't demand continued selection, unlike the others.
I thought the points he felt you didn't address was about going to games and finances? Though that also doesn't seem that relevant.
That was directed to 1970crowI think he said the Usual Suspects would have complained about this?
Sloane being dropped would have been the better move in my opinion as well, but it wasn't black and white, and we did win well the following week with the team they chose. Cook didn't demand continued selection, unlike the others.
I thought the points he felt you didn't address was about going to games and finances? Though that also doesn't seem that relevant.