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Antifa:
In my view, ‘ANTIFA’ may be more accurately described as a label, one whose misapplication has skyrocketed since pundits in the Anglophone made the Columbus-like discovery that yes, Virginia, there is grassroots opposition to the extreme-right. It’s also possible to distinguish between, on the one hand, formal, organised groups of anti-fascists — which are relatively few in number — and a broader milieu or movement, in which individuals occasionally participate, may (or may not) explicitly identify as ‘ANTIFA’, and/or for whom participating in explicitly anti-fascist political and organising projects is a function of broader political commitments. See : antifa notes (june 3, 2020) : notes on antifa.
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In my view, ‘ANTIFA’ may be more accurately described as a label, one whose misapplication has skyrocketed since pundits in the Anglophone made the Columbus-like discovery that yes, Virginia, there is grassroots opposition to the extreme-right. It’s also possible to distinguish between, on the one hand, formal, organised groups of anti-fascists — which are relatively few in number — and a broader milieu or movement, in which individuals occasionally participate, may (or may not) explicitly identify as ‘ANTIFA’, and/or for whom participating in explicitly anti-fascist political and organising projects is a function of broader political commitments. See : antifa notes (june 3, 2020) : notes on antifa.
I just don't like when white people who are supposed to be progressive tell black people how to feel and act.
The white protesters should be there for support for POC not trying to be in charge.
Violence and destroying black businesses doesn't help them.
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BLM:
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.
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Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.
Black Lives Matter - Wikipedia
Blackas87
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BLM is not a movement, it is an organisation.BLM:
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.
Black Lives Matter - Wikipedia
All money donated to BLM goes to ActBlue charities which is a charity that funds democrat candidates.
Black Lives Matter: Support the movement
Our movement is dedicated to ending state-sanctioned violence, liberating Black people, and ending white supremacy forever. Join us in supporting the movement today!
BLM is designed to create up-rest based on information that only black people have violence inflicted on them despite statistically it happens to all races
Chief
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Do you really think BLM is just one big organisation? How is it set up in Australia? New Zealand? France? Germany?BLM is not a movement, it is an organisation.
All money donated to BLM goes to ActBlue charities which is a charity that funds democrat candidates.
Black Lives Matter: Support the movement
Our movement is dedicated to ending state-sanctioned violence, liberating Black people, and ending white supremacy forever. Join us in supporting the movement today!secure.actblue.com
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Blackas87
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It is an organisation designed to influence people around the world on the narrative they portray.
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Well it controversial. The organisation uses a false pretence that influence the world to also use false pretences
Even here in Australia the death rate of indigenous Australians in custody is lower than non indigenous people. Using false pretences is hiding what the real issues are.
Shouldn't the denominator be the prevalence in the general population?
So with the deaths in the US - African Americans make up 13% of the population yet make up 30% of the people killed by police according to the chart.
It is most likely indicative of a number of factors (socio-economic, crime rates, police racism, availability of guns, etc) but let's not pretend that those numbers are the same.
Again with the deaths in custody - indigenous people make up 3% of the population of Western Australia yet make up about a third of the deaths.
There are a heap of factors that need to be accounted for (what crime where they incarcerated for, how did they die, how old were they, etc) but straight numbers in of themselves don't say a great deal.
For the record, I reckon there are troubling aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement (like armed militias, the looting, etc) but the numbers do suggest there is a problem somewhere that needs to be addressed.
So with the deaths in the US - African Americans make up 13% of the population yet make up 30% of the people killed by police according to the chart.
It is most likely indicative of a number of factors (socio-economic, crime rates, police racism, availability of guns, etc) but let's not pretend that those numbers are the same.
Again with the deaths in custody - indigenous people make up 3% of the population of Western Australia yet make up about a third of the deaths.
There are a heap of factors that need to be accounted for (what crime where they incarcerated for, how did they die, how old were they, etc) but straight numbers in of themselves don't say a great deal.
For the record, I reckon there are troubling aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement (like armed militias, the looting, etc) but the numbers do suggest there is a problem somewhere that needs to be addressed.
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Yes and the death rate in custody has been grabbed tightly by the right as an anti-BLM tactic.
Look at the data, which I've linked in this thread.
Indigenous deaths in custody and during police action are mostly caused by failure to render aid and failure to follow procedure.
That's the core of the deaths in custody and deaths through police activity issue.
Indigenous groups are more often disadvantaged and over-policed.
That's the core of the over-representation in prisons issue.
But this is framed by the anti-BLM element as a moral issue to be laid at the feet of indigenous population.
Blackas87
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Agree strait numbers don’t paint the picture, that is what BLM use though.
For example in Australia 32% of women that end up in hospital due to domestic violence are indigenous. The issue isn’t simply saying indigenous people are over policed.
Blackas87
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I haven’t Specifically looked at the data you’ve posted but I’ve looked up various data myself like the statistic I posted above.
Agree within society more indigenous groups are disadvantaged, I don’t think anyone has denied this, but there are many people within these communities that need police protection.
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It's uproar, or unrest.BLM is not a movement, it is an organisation.
All money donated to BLM goes to ActBlue charities which is a charity that funds democrat candidates.
Black Lives Matter: Support the movement
Our movement is dedicated to ending state-sanctioned violence, liberating Black people, and ending white supremacy forever. Join us in supporting the movement today!
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Back to spamming this thread, I see.
Blackas87
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What do you think of the donations to BLM going to ActBlue charities that funds democratic candidates?
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Misrepresentation of statistics for duplicitous purposes.
Aboriginals account for roughly 3.3% of the Australian population (https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/p...es-strait-islander-australians/latest-release) yet represent 27% of the Australian prison population (https://www.alrc.gov.au/publication...mmary-15/disproportionate-incarceration-rate/). So (******* naturally) of course white people die in prison more than aboriginals do; they represent 27% of the prison population.
The questions are whether they're dying in prison at a proportional rate to their incarceration level, and whether they're going to prison at the same rates as non-indigenous australians.
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Donations to Black Lives Matter Group Don't Go to DNC - FactCheck.org
Social media posts falsely claim donations made on the Black Lives Matter website go "directly" to the Democratic Party, because the group uses ActBlue Charities -- an online fundraising platform. Donations go to the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. The funds first pass through a...
VERIFY: No, donations to Black Lives Matter do not go to the DNC
Claims that the Black Lives Matter movement is giving millions of dollars to the Democratic National Committee are false.
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Black Lives Matter donations do not go to a Democratic PAC
Since protests over the death of George Floyd erupted in late May, donations to civil rights organizations have surged.
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So, no they don't, and no I don't think they do.
It's funny; that wasn't really difficult to check. Perhaps you could go back to twitter, find some more easily debunkable bullshit to spam in here, and get back to me with some startling new revelation.
Watch this space; your next post will be an attack, because 'never play defence' is how you roll. My question to you becomes, did you know that your source was false? If you did, why did you use it? If you didn't, why didn't you check something so outrageous? Are you really that credulous? Is there something else about your political beliefs you might want to share with everyone to allow us to help you reconsider them?
Blackas87
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I’m all for democracy. One thing I’m against for our society is Marxism. Do you think people know where there donation money goes?
No what isn’t?
I agree there is a lack of services although I do have a friend who has changed his career the past 12 months working with indigenous DV abusers helping them sort their lives out before they get back to their communities. They do exist but agree not enough being done.
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They (indigenous) are dying in prison at a proportional rate to their incaceration level.
They are being sent to prison at much much higher rates than non indigenous.
The focus should be reducing the rates indigenous people are being sent to prison.
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Blackas87
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Where does the money go?Donations to Black Lives Matter Group Don't Go to DNC - FactCheck.org
Social media posts falsely claim donations made on the Black Lives Matter website go "directly" to the Democratic Party, because the group uses ActBlue Charities -- an online fundraising platform. Donations go to the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. The funds first pass through a...www.factcheck.org
VERIFY: No, donations to Black Lives Matter do not go to the DNC
Claims that the Black Lives Matter movement is giving millions of dollars to the Democratic National Committee are false.Black Lives Matter donations do not go to a Democratic PAC
Since protests over the death of George Floyd erupted in late May, donations to civil rights organizations have surged.
So, no they don't, and no I don't think they do.
It's funny; that wasn't really difficult to check. Perhaps you could go back to twitter, find some more easily debunkable bullshit to spam in here, and get back to me with some startling new revelation.
Watch this space; your next post will be an attack, because 'never play defence' is how you roll. My question to you becomes, did you know that your source was false? If you did, why did you use it? If you didn't, why didn't you check something so outrageous? Are you really that credulous? Is there something else about your political beliefs you might want to share with everyone to allow us to help you reconsider them?
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There we go, reasonable and fact based. The question becomes how we do it.
Closing the (incarceration) gap: assessing the socio-economic and clinical indicators of indigenous males by lifetime incarceration status - BMC Public Health
Background Approximately 1 in 5 to 1 in 6 Indigenous Australian males are currently imprisoned or have previously been imprisoned. Recent work has also pointed to a widening socio-economic gap within the Indigenous population. Given the myriad social, wellbeing and environmental risk factors...
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This suggests year 10 levels of education, drug and alcohol problems and workforce participation are the key differences between aboriginal prisoners and the rest of both the aboriginal and white demographics.
Social determinants of incarceration | ALRC
2.25 The Royal Commission’s finding that reforms to the criminal justice system alone are not sufficient to address the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in prisons has been echoed many times since.[30] Reflecting on the 25 years since the RCIADIC, in 2016...
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A useful source on this stuff.
Indigenous incarceration rates are a problem of poverty
If we want to keep Indigenous people out of prisons, we must improve their education and employment opportunities.
Opinion, but I don't disagree with it, and (more importantly) nor do the studies.
Our problems with race here are dramatically different than the USA's. Were I the people in charge of the Australian BLM movement, I wouldn't have hitched my organisation to their wagon, but it's their cause and their movement. I am in extreme support of exposing police violence and curbing excessive power and brutality, but to limit this to solely a racial lens limits the good that can be done by exposing such to the starkness of daylight.
