Injury Blue Healers Discussion - 2024

[Aphrodite]

Latest Injury Update 23rd April …

Four Blues facing tests​

Injury news: Four Blues facing tests

Updates on nine Blues leading into Round 7.

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Player​	Injury​	Update​
Dom Akuei	Concussion	Progressing through concussion protocols. Availability: test. (Update: 23 April)
Matt Carroll	Groin	Continuing on his modified program. Return to play will be further assessed in Round 7. (Update: 26 March)
Adam Cerra	Hamstring	Availability: one week. (Update: 23 April)
David Cuningham	Calf	Aiming to be test to play next week. (Update: 23 April)
Sam Docherty	Knee	Suffered a ruptured ACL and torn meniscus in his right knee. (Update: 9 March)
Lachie Fogarty	Wrist	Commenced running program. Return to play to be assessed in Round 11. (Update: 16 April)
Caleb Marchbank	Concussion	Progressing through recovery. Return to play to be assessed in Round 9. (Update: 16 April)
Jack Martin	Hamstring	Low-grade hamstring last week. Will enter a conditioning block. Availability: 5-6 weeks. (Update: 3 April)
Mitch McGovern	Hamstring	Availability: 1-2 weeks. (Update: 23 April)
Jesse Motlop	Hamstring	Suffered a further hamstring injury in recent days. Availability: 4-5 weeks. (Update: 16 April)
Adam Saad	Hamstring	Medium-grade hamstring strain. Availability: six weeks. (Update: 16 April)
Jack Silvagni	Knee	Has begun initial stages of rehab following surgery. (Update: 21 February)
Zac Williams	Achilles soreness	Received a knock to Achilles on Saturday and was subbed out of the game. Availability: test. (Update: 23 April)
Jacob Weitering	Cork	Availability: test. (Update: 23 April)
Billy Wilson	Concussion	Progressing through concussion protocols. Availability: test. (Update: 23 April)

 

[Doro]

It's the forum posters who cast their internet curses by incorrect posting methods, when discussing the health of the list. Thats where the real blame lies. Darn them all..

 

[Soapy V]

Seriously Aph, I know we like to sit around the fire and sing koombaya in here at times but it’s completely unacceptable … it is poor management as simple as that, year after year and he’s responsible for it on absolutely enormous money by all reports. This is a professional organisation at the top level not the local footy club.

He has to be moved on.

How do we know it’s him?

 

[agro]

I literally can’t say something in case I say something.

 

[Blue Reaper]

I literally can’t say something case I say something.

What are you saying?

 

[blueblooded]

How do we know it’s him?

Is he the head of high performance?

 

[Beyond Blue]

Motlop injured a hamstring while rehabbing from a toe injury and re injured a hamstring while rehabbing from that hamstring.

I think the rehab program has some issues.

That's essentially Motlop out for half a season now. Can't happen.

It could also be due to him not following his rehab plan so it would interesting if any of the ITKs know what the background is on Motlops injury.

There’a been rumours over the years that some of our players haven’t been the best trainers but like most I’m hoping that the new regime are fixing this sort of stuff.

As for the current injury crisis I take hope out of the fact we won a series of games against good sides last year without several star players.

That said there is a tipping point approaching where Voss will be forced to pick players they wouldn’t otherwise consider which is very bad.

 

[Soapy V]

Is he the head of high performance?

Yes but it is training or is it the players, is it the surface or something else?

I don’t know. It needs to be addressed but I’m not blaming one person without evidence

 

[Opium]

Is he the head of high performance?

And payed more than the coach

 

[agro]

What are you saying?

I can’t say.

 

[Opium]

Yes but it is training or is it the players, is it the surface or something else?

I don’t know. It needs to be addressed but I’m not blaming one person without evidence

5 plus years of data is evidence.

 

[Aphrodite]

5 plus years of data is evidence.

Do you have evidence of that data.

 

[Soapy V]

5 plus years of data is evidence.

5 years of injuries yet still no proof why

FYI review concluded 2 years ago found that lack of standards especially regarding players was the main cause of injuries along with Teague controlling this and Russell not being allowed to do his job

 

[Blue Reaper]

I can’t say.

Are you saying what I think you’re saying without saying it?

 

[Aphrodite]

5 years if injuries yet still no proof why

Only Carlton have injuries

 

[lukep_86]

I read more than I post and have stayed relatively quiet on this front but all these injuries can't just be bad luck or coincidence.

Is it that we've picked up players with poor injury history, bad performance/injury management or a combination of both?

 

[marcmurphy3]

That update is just embarrasing.

Motlop redone hamstring. Going to end up missing 12 weeks with a stubbed toe.

Now Marchy has a transverse fracture (no idea what that is but never mentioned before) . I think we just need to put a line through him no matter what happens now.

Non committal now about Cunners despite the fact he should almost be good to go based on the previous timeline.

Saad 6 weeks. Way worse then it looked.

Cerra and Gov only 1-2 weeks. Ill believe it when I see it. Seems light for guys with a hamstring history. Normally 2-3 is standard for even minor strains.

Serious questions need to be asked

Plus S Durdin has disappeared off the fact of the earth. Does the club hope we forgot about him?

 

[blueblooded]

And payed more than the coach

It’s pretty well known that he’s the highest paid fitness guy in the game so this wouldn’t surprise me.

It’s safe to say it’s been a shocking investment.

Apart from Charlie coming good under his watch the rest has been disgraceful! He hasn’t gotten Gov, Marchy, cunners, Martin right at all. They come back for a month, they get injured again. Cerra is pulling hammies twice a year at 24, Motlop is on his way to being another Martin …Sam Walsh has a bad back at 24, we do 1-2 ACLs in the pre season every year … we constantly have the longest injury list in the comp under his watch.

Writing has been on the wall for the last two seasons , we’ve done reviews into it and still the same issues . Think it’s pretty obvious where the issues lie.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Just want to add, some need to realise, that you can re-injure your hamstring for instance, if you increase your load. It happens.
Also, maybe the player is so keen to return, that he pushes himself too much. That’s pretty hard to control by anyone other than the player. It happens. Some might have even ignored the medical staff ……..……….even layman like us posters might have in a previous time. Very disappointing and terrible to see the same individuals but that’s the human body and I feel for players like March, Cunners, etc.

However, I blame the stadium, hamstrings, calf’s and Achilles …… bloody surface……

 

[Opium]

5 years of injuries yet still no proof why

FYI review concluded 2 years ago found that lack of standards especially regarding players was the main cause of injuries along with Teague controlling this and Russell not being allowed to do his job

The handling of Walsh back in 2022 was the final straw. Playing him with a crook back that ultimately led to him requiring surgery at 22 years of age.

 

[Soapy V]

The handling of Walsh back in 2022 was the final straw. Playing him with a crook back that ultimately led to him requiring surgery at 22 years of age.

Whose fault or idea was that?

 

[Opium]

It’s pretty well known that he’s the highest paid fitness guy in the game so this wouldn’t surprise me.

It’s safe to say it’s been a shocking investment.

Apart from Charlie coming good under his watch the rest has been disgraceful! He hasn’t gotten Gov, Marchy, cunners, Martin right at all. They come back for a month, they get injured again. Cerra is pulling hammies twice a year at 24, Motlop is on his way to being another Martin …Sam Walsh has a bad back at 24, we do 1-2 ACLs in the pre season every year … we constantly have the longest injury list in the comp under his watch.

Writing has been on the wall for the last two seasons , we’ve done reviews into it and still the same issues . Think it’s pretty obvious where the issues lie.

Bingo

 

[Stamos]

Whoever is accountable for this should be moved on.

Yes, but the mods refuse to ban them.
Should at least be thread bans FFS.

 

[Stamos]

This isn't a one off. This is year after year. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

And yet people can’t help themselves.

 

[Opium]

Whose fault or idea was that?

Who's idea was it to flog the players in the pre season doesn't the head of performance have a say?

 

[Soapy V]

It’s pretty well known that he’s the highest paid fitness guy in the game so this wouldn’t surprise me.

It’s safe to say it’s been a shocking investment.

Apart from Charlie coming good under his watch the rest has been disgraceful! He hasn’t gotten Gov, Marchy, cunners, Martin right at all. They come back for a month, they get injured again. Cerra is pulling hammies twice a year at 24, Motlop is on his way to being another Martin …Sam Walsh has a bad back at 24, we do 1-2 ACLs in the pre season every year … we constantly have the longest injury list in the comp under his watch.

Writing has been on the wall for the last two seasons , we’ve done reviews into it and still the same issues . Think it’s pretty obvious where the issues lie.

1. He’s not the highest paid
2. We have the best CEO in the AFL who is all about standards. If Russell was the issue he’d be gone by now