Bluemour Discussion Thread IV

[djw1952]

Someone would likely pay for Daw, thinking they could teach him something he hasn't been able to learn yet.

I just can't see it being us. Our ruck stocks will have to be bolstered by the right types, and Daw just doesn't fit......even on the cheap.

I am starting to wonder about our ruck stocks and now that Phillips is done for this season what happens next year if Casboult leaves and.....(perish the thought)........Kreuzer gets injured...........not much left is there..........if SOS can trade for Kelly,Hopper and Balic (somehow) then adding Hayes with our first pick could be the go. Before everyone shouts too early..........he can play forward and we do need another guy to take Levis`spot. Hopefully Harry is that guy by seasons`end but if he isn`t we will need to try to get Pruess or someone else from another club.....but???

 

[djw1952]

Hawks would be flaming mad to give up a future 1st two years in a row. Can't see it happening.

unless they plan to just go after free agents and not worry about using many picks again........that has been their caper lately!!!

 

[djw1952]

Two high first rounders for just Kelly is too much.

Oh boy your avatar.........please help me God..........first we had Andrew Bolt-head as an avatar on here and now we have to look at "The Son Of Satan" what are you trying to do scare the children?!?! someone get me a pair of scissors quick!!!

 

[djw1952]

Hmm.. Not sure about the dynasty.. Once they win a flag ( which will probably be this year) I think many of the players will have felt that they've accomplished what they set out to do and look to move home.. The club has a very shallow culture and lives in a town where AFL plays second fiddle to NRL.

SOS re entry into Carlton couldn't of came at a better time..

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Shallow culture........how would you know this? The fact that they have rugby teams all around them would make them want to stand up and prove they are good enough, to stick it up the knockers........the "us against them syndrome". I know I would want to, and once they do win a flag they will know what it takes to build on it and they will lose players, but anyone drafted to them will feel that they are going to a "destination club" as they say when you are a successful club. It will just depend if they are mentally tough enough this year to get that first flag or not imo.

 

[Pafloyul]

Oh boy your avatar.........please help me God..........first we had Andrew Bolt-head as an avatar on here and now we have to look at "The Son Of Satan" what are you trying to do scare the children?!?! someone get me a pair of scissors quick!!!

Sorry, I'll just change it to something less triggering.

 

[Wily trout]

Shallow culture........how would you know this? The fact that they have rugby teams all around them would make them want to stand up and prove they are good enough, to stick it up the knockers........the "us against them syndrome". I know I would want to, and once they do win a flag they will know what it takes to build on it and they will lose players, but anyone drafted to them will feel that they are going to a "destination club" as they say when you are a successful club. It will just depend if they are mentally tough enough this year to get that first flag or not imo.

I am reminded of an episode of The Journey, earlier in the year when someone was talking to Marchbank before going out onto the ground against Richmond. He was asked, "what's the biggest crowd you've played in front of"? He replied "34,000", to which he was told, " well, there's 70,000+ out there". His face seemed to light up. Here in Canberra a good crowd (capacity) is 15,000. Can't discount the huge factor, in my opinion, of playing in front of huge crowds. Not a cultural issue as such but definitely a factor.

 

[Lace_Out]

Big crowds help you go up a gear and good players want to get the most out of themselves.

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[GapInIkonPark]

I was surprised when someone suggested we knocked back Rockcliff for a third rounder last year.

Would have eaten into our cap space and maybe we wouldn't be in the hunt for Kelly, etc.

 

[Foucault1989]

I am starting to wonder about our ruck stocks and now that Phillips is done for this season what happens next year if Casboult leaves and.....(perish the thought)........Kreuzer gets injured...........not much left is there..........if SOS can trade for Kelly,Hopper and Balic (somehow) then adding Hayes with our first pick could be the go. Before everyone shouts too early..........he can play forward and we do need another guy to take Levis`spot. Hopefully Harry is that guy by seasons`end but if he isn`t we will need to try to get Pruess or someone else from another club.....but???

If we manufactured a late first rounder and Hayes still available and we had acquired those players during the trade period then he'll yeah. Hayes has huge upside.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

I am starting to wonder about our ruck stocks and now that Phillips is done for this season what happens next year if Casboult leaves and.....(perish the thought)........Kreuzer gets injured...........not much left is there..........if SOS can trade for Kelly,Hopper and Balic (somehow) then adding Hayes with our first pick could be the go. Before everyone shouts too early..........he can play forward and we do need another guy to take Levis`spot. Hopefully Harry is that guy by seasons`end but if he isn`t we will need to try to get Pruess or someone else from another club.....but???

I think we will delist Gorringe, and I don't think Korcheck is going to make it.
If Casboult leaves, SOS certainly has work to do.

We need a ruckman, absolutely, but not if we are using our first pick say around pick 5. Midfielder with that pick.
Apart from Phillips, we need a back up ruckman if Kreuzer gets injured, there are plenty at other clubs we could recruit.
A developing ruckman we need too but that is a late draft pick or rookie list pick.

 

[Keyza]

I am reminded of an episode of The Journey, earlier in the year when someone was talking to Marchbank before going out onto the ground against Richmond. He was asked, "what's the biggest crowd you've played in front of"? He replied "34,000", to which he was told, " well, there's 70,000+ out there". His face seemed to light up. Here in Canberra a good crowd (capacity) is 15,000. Can't discount the huge factor, in my opinion, of playing in front of huge crowds. Not a cultural issue as such but definitely a factor.

I thought something similar when we played GWS a few weeks ago. Imagine if you play in front of around 10,000 for a home game and at away games you are lucky to have 500 supporters. To run out at the MCG in front of huge crowds is something players dream of. Same thing goes for Gold Coast. I went to the game two weeks ago and there were more Carlton supporters than Gold Coast, and it was their home game. Don't discount the players wanting to play in Melbourne for the crowd factor and being in the heart of footy.

 

[Arr0w]

If we manufactured a late first rounder and Hayes still available and we had acquired those players during the trade period then he'll yeah. Hayes has huge upside.

I would actually prefer a kid like Ben Miller and think we could pick him up with our 3rd

 

[Foucault1989]

I would actually prefer a kid like Ben Miller and think we could pick him up with our 3rd

Haven't seen much of him. I'll keep my eye out

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Dustin Martin to Carlton?

 

[Aphrodite]

^^^^^^^

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Big crowds help you go up a gear and good players want to get the most out of themselves.

Overall I agree, but looking at our last 2 wins the crowd was shit. Big crowd against the Tuggers and the intensity went down...

 

[Jabba73]

Dustin Martin to Carlton?

Who is the cutie with Tayla?

 

[passmark]

Who is the cutie with Tayla?

Imagine the father-mother/son-daughter talent!!

 

[Jimmae]

Tayla, no

 

[Matty411]

Not a blumour per say, but Trigg was just on SEN

Trigg on Gibbs: I'd like to sit here right now and say confidently that Bryce Gibbs is a Carlton player next year #CrunchTime

 

[agro]

Not a blumour per say, but Trigg was just on SEN

Trigg on Gibbs: I'd like to sit here right now and say confidently that Bryce Gibbs is a Carlton player next year #CrunchTime

Midfield is going to be pretty crowded trying to fit Kelly, Hopper, In with Gibbs, Cripps et al

 

[LanceRomance]

Not a blumour per say, but Trigg was just on SEN

Trigg on Gibbs: I'd like to sit here right now and say confidently that Bryce Gibbs is a Carlton player next year #CrunchTime

He would like to

Was he able to?

 

[Mister Carlton]

I was surprised when someone suggested we knocked back Rockcliff for a third rounder last year.

Not surprised.

Players with issues SOS will overlook straight away.

 

[Wily trout]

I thought something similar when we played GWS a few weeks ago. Imagine if you play in front of around 10,000 for a home game and at away games you are lucky to have 500 supporters. To run out at the MCG in front of huge crowds is something players dream of. Same thing goes for Gold Coast. I went to the game two weeks ago and there were more Carlton supporters than Gold Coast, and it was their home game. Don't discount the players wanting to play in Melbourne for the crowd factor and being in the heart of footy.

I've been to a couple of games at Spotless stadium, admittedly a few years ago, and Blues fans made up the bulk of the crowd. Remember, a lot of these boys a Victorians, used to big footy crowds as the norm.

 

[Wily trout]

Dustin Martin to Carlton?

What has happened to his shirt?